Texy Posted February 8, 2014 Posted February 8, 2014 Manama: Thousands of Saudis vented their anger online after staff at a Riyadh university barred male paramedics from entering a women's-only campus to assist a student who had suffered a heart attack and later died. Amna Bawazeer, a Master’s student at the College of Social Studies at King Saud University in the capital Riyadh, suffered the heart attack at 11 am at the women’s college where she was finalising her course timetable for the second semester. However, when the ambulance arrived, the medics were not allowed to enter the college for two hours. The university officials argued that the ambulance staff were males and could not enter the premises as the student was not covered and that no man could be allowed into the women’s college even though Amna needed prompt and vital treatment, local daily Okaz reported on Thursday. The students insisted that the officials who refused to allow the medical team into the college on the pretext they were men should be held accountable for the incident, the report said. Several online users called for looking carefully into the incident and agree on a set of solutions to ensure it is not repeated. Some suggested setting up advanced clinics in all colleges while others said that all ambulances heading to women’s colleges should include women on their staff to ensure they pass the “stubbornness†of officials. Co-education is strictly prohibited in Saudi Arabia at all levels. In 2002, 15 schoolgirls died in a fire in Makkah after, according to reports at the time, religious police stopped them from leaving a burning building because they were not properly dressed. Source I'm utterly disgusted.
KeyboardWarrior Posted February 8, 2014 Posted February 8, 2014 RIP to the soul... these Saudis .... they dont know a thing about Islam .... :facepalm:
punjabi_khota Posted February 8, 2014 Posted February 8, 2014 Darwin is laughing his ass off right now.
randomGuy Posted February 8, 2014 Posted February 8, 2014 Saudis .... they dont know a thing about Islam .... :facepalm: this is not the right approach bro. Religion is mostly ignorance dogma and intolerance today. Treat it as that and consider spirituality separate from religion (so as to not create confusion )
DomainK Posted February 8, 2014 Posted February 8, 2014 Stupid, no doubt, but compared a Panchayat ordering a gang rape, it falls short.
KeyboardWarrior Posted February 8, 2014 Posted February 8, 2014 this is not the right approach bro. Religion is mostly ignorance dogma and intolerance today. Treat it as that and consider spirituality separate from religion (so as to not create confusion ) what did i said bro ... :dontknow: I just said they are not representing Religion in true spirit .... this is the Saudi's fault .... and people blame this on Religion .... becoz people think that its the religion teachings .... they are not enough educated with the true spirit of Religion .... Infact this is the Opposite what Religion teaches .... Religion have nothing to do with this murder .... Its very very Sad Incident .... I am saying this becoz Saudis believes that they have Religious Government in Saudi arab and Religion is direclty related to this case .....
gattaca Posted February 8, 2014 Posted February 8, 2014 Stupid' date=' no doubt, but compared a Panchayat ordering a gang rape, it falls short.[/quote'] Both are equally stupid. But Are we comparing a bunch of illiterates to educated folks with religion preference.
velu Posted February 8, 2014 Posted February 8, 2014 what did i said bro ... :dontknow: I just said they are not representing Religion in true spirit .... this is the Saudi's fault .... and people blame this on Religion .... becoz people think that its the religion teachings .... they are not enough educated with the true spirit of Religion .... Infact this is the Opposite what Religion teaches .... Religion have nothing to do with this murder .... Its very very Sad Incident .... I am saying this becoz Saudis believes that they have Religious Government in Saudi arab and Religion is direclty related to this case ..... its not like saudis are following wrong brand of islam or misinterpreting islam .. saudi rulers use religion to rule saudi arabia , imo they just use religion as a tool.. and zia ul haq used religion and screwed pakistan and the results are still seen :hehe:
randomGuy Posted February 8, 2014 Posted February 8, 2014 Unfortunately religion has become synonymous with ignorance, dogma and intolerance. Not just the Saudi - the taliban, the irani/Shia, the sunni, the Ahmedi and each n every mullah will come up with his own twisted version. And it's not just restricted to one religion. Even Hinduism has caste, astrology, tone totke, even sati (till a couple of decades ago) etc. So basically, stop saying that they don't understand the true meaning of the religion you follow. Simply, think of religion as a negative word. And what you seek from religion - call it spirituality instead of religion. You may call it roohaniyat in urdu, I may call it adhyatm in hindi, but it's one and the same thing.
KeyboardWarrior Posted February 8, 2014 Posted February 8, 2014 saudi rulers use religion to rule saudi arabia , imo they just use religion as a tool.. and zia ul haq used religion and screwed pakistan and the results are still seen :hehe: Not just the Saudi - the taliban, the irani/Shia, the sunni, the Ahmedi and each n every mullah will come up with his own twisted version. And it's not just restricted to one religion. Even Hinduism has caste, astrology, tone totke, even sati (till a couple of decades ago) etc. So basically, stop saying that they don't understand the true meaning of the religion you follow. And what you seek from religion - call it spirituality instead of religion. You may call it roohaniyat in urdu, I may call it adhyatm in hindi, but it's one and the same thing. hmmm some Good Points .... :hmmm:
jf1gp_1 Posted February 8, 2014 Posted February 8, 2014 Both are equally stupid. But Are we comparing a bunch of illiterates to educated folks with religion preference. my grand mother studied till 4th standard, lived most of her life in a small town of uttaranchal. Most of her neighbours or people she interacted with at best had same level of education or were illiterate. I never see my grandmother or people she lived most of her life come together and order raping a young woman in the name of justice. All such incidents have nothing to do with religion or education its all about individuals.
Tailender Posted February 9, 2014 Posted February 9, 2014 All because of religious beliefs that should have been dumped 1400 years ago... Spirituality is indeed different as long as one doesn't engage in dogma...
Sajid_Rana Posted February 9, 2014 Posted February 9, 2014 http://m.washingtonpost.com/local/crime/man-77-dies-after-collapsing-near-dc-fire-station-and-not-getting-immediate-aid/2014/01/29/13b44662-88fe-11e3-a5bd-844629433ba3_story.html Hail the rules, regulations and protocol when it happens in US but attack the religion, call them illiterates, backyard stupid etc when it hapoens in a Muslim nation. LoL at all the hypocrites.
cowboysfan Posted February 9, 2014 Posted February 9, 2014 All because of religious beliefs that should have been dumped 1400 years ago... Spirituality is indeed different as long as one doesn't engage in dogma... its all the same bullshit,you know whats really better? rationality and humanity and some some ****ing common sense.
Tailender Posted February 9, 2014 Posted February 9, 2014 its all the same bullshit' date='you know whats really better? rationality and humanity and some some ****ing common sense.[/quote'] Of course, but that was in reference to randomguy. He always brings up spirituality and I agree that it's a better alternative as long as dogma is avoided. If your belief is flexible and able to change by integrating new information then I don't really find it a problem. Rigid, concrete belief is the issue.
randomGuy Posted February 9, 2014 Posted February 9, 2014 All because of religious beliefs that should have been dumped 1400 years ago... Spirituality is indeed different as long as one doesn't engage in dogma... You call yourself an atheist, I call myself 'spiritual but not religious', many people say they are agnostic. All these descriptions are fine I guess, in the way that at least they do not glorify any religion (Hinduism, Islam, Christianity etc) and its different 'interpretations' (and thereby, creating confusion/doubt).
ravishingravi Posted February 9, 2014 Posted February 9, 2014 You call yourself an atheist, I call myself 'spiritual but not religious', many people say they are agnostic. All these descriptions are fine I guess, in the way that at least they do not glorify any religion (Hinduism, Islam, Christianity etc) and its different 'interpretations' (and thereby, creating confusion/doubt). I think in the effort to stand apart from the crowd, one should be careful not to brush everything with same brush. Otherwise, there is no difference between religious zealot and those who consider themselves otherwise.
JourneyMan Posted February 9, 2014 Posted February 9, 2014 Unfortunately religion has become synonymous with ignorance, dogma and intolerance. Not just the Saudi - the taliban, the irani/Shia, the sunni, the Ahmedi and each n every mullah will come up with his own twisted version. And it's not just restricted to one religion. Even Hinduism has caste, astrology, tone totke, even sati (till a couple of decades ago) etc. So basically, stop saying that they don't understand the true meaning of the religion you follow. Simply, think of religion as a negative word. And what you seek from religion - call it spirituality instead of religion. You may call it roohaniyat in urdu, I may call it adhyatm in hindi, but it's one and the same thing. I don't see why the peaceful and tolerant majority of Hindus, Muslims, Christians, Sikhs, Jews, Buddhists etc.. etc... should have to stop identifying themselves with their religion just because small groups of people tried to manipulate/exploit it for their own interests.
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