Switchblade Posted February 18, 2014 Posted February 18, 2014 http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/sports/cricket/series-tournament/india-in-new-zealand-2014/top-stories/Kirmani-bats-for-under-fire-Dhoni-downplays-string-of-losses/articleshow/30632310.cms Former stumper Syed Kirmani on Tuesday backed Mahendra Singh Dhoni's captaincy, saying too much should not be read into India's fourth consecutive series loss overseas as he felt every team goes through a bad phase. "It does not matter whether it is four losses or five. Every team goes through it. Every individual goes through a bad form. We are going through a bad form overall. You cannot be expecting Dhoni to win all the series at all the times or all the formats at all the times. It is a combat between the ball and the bat," he told reporters here. "It should not be a matter of concern. It happens to everybody in their lives, not only in sports. You cannot be in form all the time." India have lost their last four series abroad starting with the 4-0 rout suffered in England and ending with the 0-1 loss to New Zealand on Tuesday. The 64-year old cricketer-turned-golfer said at the Bombay Presidency Golf Club in Chembur that critics and fans need to be patient with the team. "It happens to every individual cricketer, to every team as well. You have got to accept certain defeats. You have to be patient and you can't be criticising a man who has done great things for the country. He has brought some sweeping changes into the game and he is one of those leaders leading from the front," said Kirmani. Asked if coach Duncan Fletcher needs to be replaced, Kirmani said that coaches play a minuscule role in the success or otherwise of a team. "I give only 5 per cent to a coach. It is the captain and the players who have to take an instinctive decision on the field. The coach sits inside the four walls of a dressing room and formulates a strategy and a game plan, whereas in the middle you have to take the strategy or the game plan instantly looking into the circumstances. "The entire credit goes to the captain and the discredit when they lose. Now you are criticising Dhoni's captaincy. When he was winning, he had the same strategy, the same game plan." The Bangalore-based former cricketer, who was part of the victorious 1983 World Cup team led by Kapil Dev, rued that the gentleman's spirit has gone for a toss in modern day cricket. "The game is played like a war. There is no sporting spirit. There is no appreciation from a player when another plays a good stroke. The bowler sledges and gives him a dirty look. That is not being gentleman. "You have got to appreciate good strokes, a good player, a good talent. Have some good mannerisms and not behave like monkeys on field. All these mannerisms, they are aware that cameras are on them so these added mannerisms are put on. They are not natural," he said. Kirmani advised youngsters to not be greedy and indulge in unethical practices like match-fixing. "I would advise them to keep their heads on their shoulders and not look upwards when they are doing good. Be humble in your achievements and acquire some good qualities of good human beings. Do not be greedy as greed leads to contempt," he said.
vvvslaxman Posted February 18, 2014 Posted February 18, 2014 Every team goes through bad phase.. that is normal. Also captains get sacked too. That is also normal. So Kiri has to move on.
Sidhoni Posted February 18, 2014 Posted February 18, 2014 Why are these former cricketers supporting Dhoni? Idiots of the first order. They obviously know nothing compared to experts of ICF.
Yoda-esque Posted February 18, 2014 Posted February 18, 2014 Gavaskar also supports MSD: On the day when Brendon McCullum entered record books with a maiden triple ton and ensured a draw at Wellington to win the two-match series 1-0 over India, former India skipper and NDTV expert Sunil Gavaskar refused to put the entire blame on Indian captain MS Dhoni and felt that he had a lot more to offer as India's Test captain. Answering questions on whether it was time to ease the workload on Dhoni and find a new captain in Tests, Gavaskar said," I don't think so. Not at the moment. I think Dhoni has still got plenty to offer. A captain can do very little if you don't have a bowling attack. Generally a captain is only as good as his team," Gavaskar told NDTV in an exclusive chat from Wellington. http://sports.ndtv.com/new-zealand-vs-india-2014/news/221048-mahendra-singh-dhoni-still-has-more-to-offer-as-indias-test-captain-sunil-gavaskar-tells-ndtv
gattaca Posted February 18, 2014 Posted February 18, 2014 Why are these former cricketers supporting Dhoni? Idiots of the first order. They obviously know nothing compared to experts of ICF. They get paid or want to earn godwill of don. here we are just fans want good things for indian cricket unlike some blind fans. Dhoni fans are no different they are stubborn like him as well.
gattaca Posted February 18, 2014 Posted February 18, 2014 Gavaskar also supports MSD: On the day when Brendon McCullum entered record books with a maiden triple ton and ensured a draw at Wellington to win the two-match series 1-0 over India, former India skipper and NDTV expert Sunil Gavaskar refused to put the entire blame on Indian captain MS Dhoni and felt that he had a lot more to offer as India's Test captain. Answering questions on whether it was time to ease the workload on Dhoni and find a new captain in Tests, Gavaskar said," I don't think so. Not at the moment. I think Dhoni has still got plenty to offer. A captain can do very little if you don't have a bowling attack. Generally a captain is only as good as his team," Gavaskar told NDTV in an exclusive chat from Wellington. http://sports.ndtv.com/new-zealand-vs-india-2014/news/221048-mahendra-singh-dhoni-still-has-more-to-offer-as-indias-test-captain-sunil-gavaskar-tells-ndtv Now tell me. why would someone pick jadaja and zak both are liability.
Yoda-esque Posted February 18, 2014 Posted February 18, 2014 Now tell me. why would someone pick jadaja and zak both are liability. Fir the same reason that SRT ,Ganguly were picked.. Hopefully Zak won't get another chance now
gattaca Posted February 18, 2014 Posted February 18, 2014 Fir the same reason that SRT ,Ganguly were picked.. Hopefully Zak won't get another chance now I didnt even asked Ishants selection yet.
Yoda-esque Posted February 18, 2014 Posted February 18, 2014 I didnt even asked Ishants selection yet. He did pretty well this tour,was the highest wicket taker by some margin
gattaca Posted February 18, 2014 Posted February 18, 2014 He did pretty well this tour' date='was the highest wicket taker by some margin[/quote'] He is mediocre he will perform when his job on the line and relaxes for next three years we need to move on. Let us see how he performs in england and aus tours.
CG Posted February 18, 2014 Posted February 18, 2014 He is mediocre he will perform when his job on the line and relaxes for next three years we need to move on. Let us see how he performs in england and aus tours. :hysterical: These delusional dhoni fans now support ishant dharma.The guy has played 50 tests and averages 37.56 with strike rate 67.2 .Forget selection& captaincy dhoni keeping and batting are so bad abroad he does not even deserve to be in the team.
Detonator Posted February 18, 2014 Posted February 18, 2014 I think Kirmani is under fire, not Dhoni.
vvvslaxman Posted February 18, 2014 Posted February 18, 2014 India lost ODI and Test series in England india lost test series and got eliminated from final in CB series in Australia India lost ODI and Test series in SA India lost ODI and Test series in NZ India will lose Test series for sure in England ( Because Dhoni already knew it) INdia will lose Test series in Australia (That also Dhoni knows)
Sidhoni Posted February 18, 2014 Posted February 18, 2014 :hysterical: These delusional dhoni fans now support ishant dharma.The guy has played 50 tests and averages 37.56 with strike rate 67.2 .Forget selection& captaincy dhoni keeping and batting are so bad abroad he does not even deserve to be in the team. And you are supposed to be an Ishant fan. :giggle: Highest wicket taker tha, ab aur kya chahiye? I agree ideally he shouldn't have played the first test but didn't his performance in the series surprise us all?
SLICKR392 Posted February 18, 2014 Posted February 18, 2014 I don't know or care if Dhoni is right or wrong here. His Test captaincy, IMO, is not that great. May be it is for some. Let us keep that all aside. Any captain of any nation 'has' to step down after losing all the away series in the last 3 years. Not only the series but also not being able to clinch a single victory. His form hasn't been bad enough to be dropped yet, but should be stripped of the Test captaincy, ASAP. It should be the right time to step down and groom a young captain in Test.
Yoda-esque Posted February 18, 2014 Posted February 18, 2014 Theres visible improvements since the England and Aussie tours.We hardly made any high scores in those series and now we have made a few in the 400+ area. So definitely an improvement in the batting dept then after the seniors were hauled out. The bowling is now what we need to focus on . It is clear that the bowlers are not consistent and lack penetration.In such a case,we need to try different combinations and hope that one of them clicks.Yadav will surely make way for Zak . Getting there slowly.
Lord Posted February 18, 2014 Posted February 18, 2014 Theres visible improvements since the England and Aussie tours.We hardly made any high scores in those series and now we have made a few in the 400+ area. So definitely an improvement in the batting dept then after the seniors were hauled out. The bowling is now what we need to focus on . It is clear that the bowlers are not consistent and lack penetration.In such a case,we need to try different combinations and hope that one of them clicks.Yadav will surely make way for Zak . Getting there slowly. yes,might get a win by 2020B->
CG Posted February 18, 2014 Posted February 18, 2014 And you are supposed to be an Ishant fan. :giggle: Highest wicket taker tha, ab aur kya chahiye? I agree ideally he shouldn't have played the first test but didn't his performance in the series surprise us all? i am ishant's fan but that does not mean i want india to suffer because of him.he should have been dropped long ago and told to work on his game.
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