Lord Posted April 9, 2014 Posted April 9, 2014 How does it matter? Basics are same. He was bowling around 135 or more last time I saw him. He is now bowling 127-128. You need some pace no matter what the conditions are. We better play BK then if we want swing. I did not watch him in Deodhar Trophy so you may be right.though one series may be too small sample Also hes different from BK as hes tall and can get bounce with swing too
adi B Posted April 9, 2014 Posted April 9, 2014 yadav(must),shami,aaron,bhuvi and another one based on form.only 2 spinners should be taken out of ashwin,ojha,jadeja
rkt.india Posted April 9, 2014 Posted April 9, 2014 I did not watch him in Deodhar Trophy so you may be right.though one series may be too small sample Also hes different from BK as hes tall and can get bounce with swing too Thing is he is not really tall like Ishant, Morkel, or Broad. He is as tall as James Anderson. He can get bounce, but at least needs pace of Anderson.
SLICKR392 Posted April 9, 2014 Posted April 9, 2014 Bhuvi, Yadav, Shami + a seam all allrounder. Jadeja as a spinner.
StriKe Posted April 9, 2014 Posted April 9, 2014 India won't play any test matches without Ishant the Legend So Ishant(Bowling Captain) Shami Bhuvi Yadav/Aaron
ShebbySB Posted April 9, 2014 Posted April 9, 2014 Zak should retire....so 3 seamers should be Shami,BK & Umesh.Ishant will be there in the squad along with Pandey.If 6th seamer is chosen then it'll be Aaron.3 spinners will be Ashwin,Jadeja & Ojha.
Austin 3:!6 Posted April 9, 2014 Posted April 9, 2014 We must play with 5 bowlers. My team will be: Dhawan Rahane Pujara Kohli Rohit Dhoni Ashwin Mishra Bhuvi Umesh Shammi
zep1706 Posted April 9, 2014 Posted April 9, 2014 It's futile to discuss this as long as Dhoni is the captain. We all know what's going to happen in the end.
undisputed chap Posted April 9, 2014 Posted April 9, 2014 We must play with 5 bowlers. My team will be: Dhawan Rahane Pujara Kohli Rohit Dhoni Ashwin Mishra Bhuvi Umesh Shammi Both ashwin & jaddu in england no way. Better pick someone like bumrah who gets natural inswing with his action & doesn't depend too much on pitch.
Austin 3:!6 Posted April 9, 2014 Posted April 9, 2014 Both ashwin & jaddu in england no way. Better pick someone like bumrah who gets natural inswing with his action & doesn't depend too much on pitch. Check again...I said Mishra not Jaddu Pommies don't play spin well..irrespective of conditions. Shane Warne mesmerized them in Ashes 05 and I expect Mishra to repeat the same feat :beee: Moreover we are expecting good summer this year here (touchwood) so pitches will assist spinners :two_thumbs_up:
jf1gp_1 Posted April 9, 2014 Posted April 9, 2014 Zaheer - 'has been' but selectors love him and Dhoni's old boyfriend Ishant - 'Never was' but selectors love him and had video of Dhoni and Zaheer going at it Sami - only bowler (read donkey) Ashwin - Great T20 WC naturally means he is in-form test bowler Jaddu - cause we need a 2nd spinner in 'traditionally spin friendly' english track and Dhoni in press conference to say 'we read the conditions wrong'
Austin 3:!6 Posted April 9, 2014 Posted April 9, 2014 Zaheer - 'has been' but selectors love him and Dhoni's old boyfriend Ishant - 'Never was' but selectors love him and had video of Dhoni and Zaheer going at it Sami - only bowler (read donkey) Ashwin - Great T20 WC naturally means he is in-form test bowler Jaddu - cause we need a 2nd spinner in 'traditionally spin friendly' english track and Dhoni in press conference to say 'we read the conditions wrong' Pretty much sums up ICF these days :giggle:
Lord Posted April 9, 2014 Posted April 9, 2014 Check again...I said Mishra not Jaddu Pommies don't play spin well..irrespective of conditions. Shane Warne mesmerized them in Ashes 05 and I expect Mishra to repeat the same feat :beee: Moreover we are expecting good summer this year here (touchwood) so pitches will assist spinners :two_thumbs_up: did you miss how our Haryanvi Warne did in last England tour?:hmmm:
undisputed chap Posted April 9, 2014 Posted April 9, 2014 Check again...I said Mishra not Jaddu Pommies don't play spin well..irrespective of conditions. Shane Warne mesmerized them in Ashes 05 and I expect Mishra to repeat the same feat :beee: Moreover we are expecting good summer this year here (touchwood) so pitches will assist spinners :two_thumbs_up: Last time around pommies thumped mishra. He pissed his pants & started bowling no balls & half trackers. He is a minnow basher & starts wetting himself when attacked. Better to try out some other leggie & have nohit bowl offies.
Sachinism Posted April 9, 2014 Posted April 9, 2014 I'm torn about Bhuvi. I can imagine banging my head against a wall when he takes the outside edge but bounces short of Dhoni because he has no pace. Is Yadav in good form? Looked decent at the start of the Australian tour a couple of years ago but yet to see any consistency. Aaron is a loose cannon isn't he? Could start spraying it about and getting hammered for runs. As much as we hate trundlers, we also need to balance out the need for line and length. Because England batsmen won't be troubled by any pace. If you get a 90mph+ bowler being erratic he will go for big runs. A bowler inducing edges is a good thing, the keeper is to blame for standing too far back.
Austin 3:!6 Posted April 9, 2014 Posted April 9, 2014 did you miss how our Haryanvi Warne did in last England tour?:hmmm: Last time around pommies thumped mishra. He pissed his pants & started bowling no balls & half trackers. He is a minnow basher & starts wetting himself when attacked. Better to try out some other leggie & have nohit bowl offies. Improved bowler now :dontknow:
CG Posted April 9, 2014 Posted April 9, 2014 Thing is he is not really tall like Ishant' date=' Morkel, or Broad. He is as tall as James Anderson. He can get bounce, but at least needs pace of Anderson.[/quote'] sony six is showing ipl in sa.Ishant action is so diff and open chested ,he was landing the ball on seam and getting movement .its so sad
undisputed chap Posted April 9, 2014 Posted April 9, 2014 Improved bowler now :dontknow: Did you see him bowl vs aus in odi series & sa in wc he looked like a deer caught in headlights. Also in irani trophy vs roi he looked clueless. He can't bowl unless its a dustbowl. And there ain't gonna be many of them in eng.
undisputed chap Posted April 9, 2014 Posted April 9, 2014 Improved bowler now :dontknow: Did you see him bowl vs aus in odi series & sa in wc he looked like a deer caught in headlights. Also in irani trophy vs kar he looked clueless. He can't bowl unless its a dustbowl. And there ain't gonna be many of them in eng.
The Realist Posted April 9, 2014 Posted April 9, 2014 One of these is guaranteed to make a comeback..
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