Speeds and Performances of Pacers and Spinners

[Suhaan]

3 minutes ago, express bowling said:

 

 

What is unclear to me is ... whether Team India have identified the next lot of quick bowlers who are going to come in after Bumrah, Shami and Umesh.

 

Almost all the new pacers coming through are swing bowlers like Chahar, Natarajan, Siraj and Shardul.

 

Siraj is the best of the swing bowlers and we need him in the long run.

 

But why are we choosing swing bowlers only ??

 

Saini is the only new fast bowler but is already 28 and not settled in the team. He is unlikely to bowl quick for a long time.

 

Why are young quick bowlers like Avesh, Prasidh, Tyagi, Mavi and Nagarkoti not being developed with special attention  !!!!  I am not understanding this part.

 

 

Offlate they have been going for short term goals ,Natrajan,Shardul ,Chahar

Natrajan has done well in whatever little he has played but remains to be seen would he be able to continue with his purple patch

Shardul has improved but isn't a long term prospect

Chahar is only seen as t20 specialist

Prasidh hasn't helped his cause either needs to do a little better in IPL(im saying IPL as no matter how much we criticize it,but it does make an impact on selectors to have a vision of our loi setup)

Prasidh needs to have a good if not outstanding (atleast) IPL this year

I have always said we need to groom next set of pacers for our red and white ball cricket

[express bowling]

14 minutes ago, Suhaan said:

Offlate they have been going for short term goals ,Natrajan,Shardul ,Chahar

Natrajan has done well in whatever little he has played but remains to be seen would he be able to continue with his purple patch

Shardul has improved but isn't a long term prospect

Chahar is only seen as t20 specialist

Prasidh hasn't helped his cause either needs to do a little better in IPL(im saying IPL as no matter how much we criticize it,but it does make an impact on selectors to have a vision of our loi setup)

Prasidh needs to have a good if not outstanding (atleast) IPL this year

I have always said we need to groom next set of pacers for our red and white ball cricket

 

 

Let's say Bumrah is unavailable for World T20 in 2021.

 

And we play Bhuvi, Natarajan, Shardul and Chahar.

 

This pace attack would be slower and shorter than every other team.

 

One good swing bowler is good. Maybe even 2 if conditions favour. But 4 shortish swing bowlers is an overkill. 

 

They may get hit mercilessly.

[Lone Wolf]

42 minutes ago, express bowling said:

 

 

What is unclear to me is ... whether Team India have identified the next lot of quick bowlers who are going to come in after Bumrah, Shami and Umesh.

 

Almost all the new pacers coming through are swing bowlers like Chahar, Natarajan, Siraj and Shardul.

 

Siraj is the best of the swing bowlers and we need him in the long run.

 

But why are we choosing swing bowlers primarily !!  This T20 team has 4 shorter swing bowlers and just 1 fast bowler. Why this disparity !!  Why not choose 2 fast bowlers atleast !!  Avesh did so well in SMAT.

 

Saini is the only new fast bowler but is already 28 and not settled in the team. He is unlikely to bowl quick for a long time.

 

Why are young quick bowlers like Avesh, Prasidh, Tyagi, Mavi and Nagarkoti not being developed with special attention  !!!!  I am not understanding this part.

 

 

Couldn't agree more..  Need at least one 145+ kph bowler in T20 team all the time.  D Chahar & Shardul are bring more or less bring same skill set & having both of them is waste of a spot for a Potential express pacer like either Mavi/Prasidh.  Prasidh for some reason didn't get any great backing from KKR TM as well last year..  Only when Nagarkotti was tonked around all parts he got the opportunity.  Compare that To RR TM they gave Tyagi every game they can & he was eventually going in right direction by the end of season.  He must be in India Shirts if he does well in IPl this year preferably on SL tour. 

[express bowling]

15 minutes ago, sarchasm said:

In T20s batsmen love a bit of predictability - of trajectory, pace, spin.

 

Helps them line the bowler up and launch into them. No matter how good a bowler is individually, they will be dismantled if the whole attack lacks variety. God help us if the attack we feature comprises of Chahar, Bhuvi and Shardul together.

 

 

This my exact point. 

 

3 or 4 shortish swing bowlers bowling in tandem would reduce the efficacy of the individual swing bowlers.

[Suhaan]

1 hour ago, express bowling said:

 

They may get hit mercilessly

They may still not learn ,the pragmatic way of going doesn't work all the time,why don't they think like many of us 

If stats are so important then what is the point having selectors or scouts,they just need to identify the potential in a candidate

This is where i find England best in recent times

[the don]

Really like the look of shahnawaz dahani. 148.6 kph. 

[express bowling]

8 hours ago, Jay said:

India have depth too. 

 

Porel

Mavi

Tyagi

Prasidh Krishna

Avesh Khan

 

 

That's some crazy depth. 

 

 

 

Porel has looked quite innocuous in VHT. Not much pace, steep bounce or movement.

 

Mavi and Tyagi are not even regulars in their state sides.  (  although they should be )

 

The TM does not seem to be interested in Prasidh for the time being.

 

Avesh is the only good quick bowler who maybe near national team selection  ... but good chance that a short medium pacer will be preferred over him.

[express bowling]

A slower cutter by Hasnain clocks 146.x kph.  ( the ball which got Khushdil ). They showed it in close up 

 

The next ball looked like a finger rolled over ball too ... but clocked 147 kph.

[Suhaan]

9 hours ago, express bowling said:

A slower cutter by Hasnain clocks 146.x kph.  ( the ball which got Khushdil ). They showed it in close up 

 

The next ball looked like a finger rolled over ball too ... but clocked 147 kph.

That is what im saying all this while,it is a joke

 

Edited March 4, 2021 by Suhaan

[express bowling]

We have lost the toss again and will bowl.

[express bowling]

Siraj playing.

 

Is it worth playing 2 fast bowlers here ??

 

I would have preferred Pandya to strengthen the batting.

 

 

 

 

[Mosher]

Siraj ahead of Umesh in India. That's a surprise. Would have preferred Umesh in India. Someone who can reverse the ball at pace. 

Edited March 4, 2021 by Mosher

[Rightarmfast]

Ishant Sharma killing it. The kind of movement he generates is surreal. Decent pace at mid 130's.  Very difficult to handle Ishant when he bowls like this.

[Rightarmfast]

Siraj showing what a good channel bowling can do, even if you bowl in 130's. Dangerous bowling

[express bowling]

Superb first over by Siraj

 

Moving the ball both ways and zipping the ball off the surface.

 

Bowls it at 135 k to 138 k.

 

 

[express bowling]

Siraj 138.3 k indipper hits the bat hard.

[express bowling]

Siraj 2nd over

 

130

137

140

135

138

132

 

 

[Rightarmfast]

Dont recall having seen Wasim move the ball as much as Ishant is doing. IN INDIA!!!

[Forward Defence]

The end from which Ishant is bowling is bouncier than the other end. Ishant must try to get a couple to bounce awkwardly off a length.

English batsmen game against swing bowling is also well sorted. Playing close to the body. Feet get into position quickly. Very still and stable before playing the shot. Decisive when playing the attacking shot. No pushing or prodding.

[express bowling]

Ishant getting a lot of bounce.

 

Has hit Crawley on the gloves on one occasion.