Speeds and Performances of Pacers and Spinners

[Nikhil_cric]

7 minutes ago, Nikhil_cric said:

I've seen him clocked somewhere(maybe Duleep Trophy last year) and he was max. 82 mph or something. 

 

@Rightarmfast

 

Medium fast bowler who is accurate and can swing/seam the ball. 

 

But clearly not international standard

 

 

[Rightarmfast]

10 minutes ago, Nikhil_cric said:

 

@Rightarmfast

 

Medium fast bowler who is accurate and can swing/seam the ball. 

 

But clearly not international standard

 

 

Ok.. Agreed, 127-128 is way too slow. But still just 2 balls is too small a sample size. Maybe he does quicken later. Lekin anyway, quality to hai. He is definitely international level, but the pace will be his nemesis. No point.

[tapandrun]

37 minutes ago, Rightarmfast said:

Have you seen him clocked? What's his pace? Waise what about Bhuvi and the gang? Ye log aa sakte hain, to ek chance to banta hai. Jagrata me prasad to sab ko milni chahie boss. 

He mostly bowls 125-128/29 kmph and some effort ball goes 133 kmph, have not seen him go above that in last 2 years. 

These days domestic speedometers are v.accurate 

 

 

This is the ideal pace that works in domestics, not much that edges goes for 4s/6s , drives and flicks can be chased down by fielders. 

 

In intnl cricket he may push a bit and then get injured or once the spot is fixed will return back to original speed and fall-off v.quickly afterwards

[Rightarmfast]

2 minutes ago, tapandrun said:

He mostly bowls 125-128/29 kmph and some effort ball goes 133 kmph, have not seen him go above that in last 2 years. 

These days domestic speedometers are v.accurate 

 

 

This is the ideal pace that works in domestics, not much that edges goes for 4s/6s , drives and flicks can be chased down by fielders. 

 

In intnl cricket he may push a bit and then get injured or once the spot is fixed will return back to original speed and fall-off v.quickly afterwards

He needs to add 10k's.

[Nikhil_cric]

25 minutes ago, tapandrun said:

He mostly bowls 125-128/29 kmph and some effort ball goes 133 kmph, have not seen him go above that in last 2 years. 

These days domestic speedometers are v.accurate 

 

 

This is the ideal pace that works in domestics, not much that edges goes for 4s/6s , drives and flicks can be chased down by fielders. 

 

In intnl cricket he may push a bit and then get injured or once the spot is fixed will return back to original speed and fall-off v.quickly afterwards

This is what I've heard about him too. 

 

An exceptionally skilled bowler who can hit a mean wobble seam and plug away at a length should still average at least around 132/133 kph 

 

This guy's effort ball seems to be around 133

 

Doesn't have the bare minimum pace for international cricket 

Edited December 8, 2025 by Nikhil_cric

[tapandrun]

15 minutes ago, Nikhil_cric said:

This is what I've heard about him too. 

 

An exceptionally skilled bowler who can hit a mean wobble seam and plug away at a length should still average at least around 132/133 kph 

 

This guy's effort ball seems to be around 133

 

Doesn't have the bare minimum pace for international cricket 

 

Ind plays with 2 seamer in Ind,can he be one of those 2 seamer ...??

His pace and bowling style wont work in Aus, Eng now offers flat surfaces ,

On Nz is the place where he can be in the playing 11 but even in NZ they are producing bouncy pitches..

 

have seen a lot of up-take for him in sm and yt, making him look like every team will go for him......he is been in Ind cricket for sometime now, its not like they have not called him for a trial before this season...

 

Edited December 8, 2025 by tapandrun

[singhvivek141]

1 hour ago, Rightarmfast said:

Ok.. Agreed, 127-128 is way too slow. But still just 2 balls is too small a sample size. Maybe he does quicken later. Lekin anyway, quality to hai. He is definitely international level, but the pace will be his nemesis. No point.

If we go strictly by numbers then Vasuki Koushik leads at all fronts.

Very much a magician like Asif or Philander.

 

Sadly he bowls at 115-120k with effort balls at 125k.

[AKane]

How was Mohd Asif so effective bowling at around 128-130 kmph in international cricket?

[Lord]

2 minutes ago, AKane said:

How was Mohd Asif so effective bowling at around 128-130 kmph in international cricket?

 

He was tall plus in his short career he mostly played on juicy tracks. Very skillful ofcourse

[tapandrun]

18 minutes ago, AKane said:

How was Mohd Asif so effective bowling at around 128-130 kmph in international cricket?

Asif was bowling 135-137 kmph in his prime, after sometime he has injury or something that reduced the pace and he was not the same bowler.

 

He was tall and hit the deck bowler, no1 was doing what he was doing that time, there were seam bowler but no1 move the ball that much. Plus he can move both ways.

 

Though he had a subtle change in action but batter were not able to figure it out, takes time to notice that, there was not much analysis done that time and then he had good bowling line-up around him.

 

Its similar to how Jemision caused so many issues for Ind only being ~137 kmph bowler.

Edited December 8, 2025 by tapandrun

[AKane]

1 hour ago, tapandrun said:

Asif was bowling 135-137 kmph in his prime,

I never saw Asif bowling at that speed - I always saw him around 130 sometimes a bit higher but mostly a bit lower.

 

Here he bowls Laxman at 129.6 kmph

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2iWDKcRgdSs

 

My point being if this guy Nabi can get this type of movement - could be worth an investment even at 130kmph esp in places like NZ. Another thing with this Nabi is that the wk and slips are quite back and the ball is carrying..... so the pace is deceptive.

Edited December 8, 2025 by AKane

[MK55]

The selectors should declare that if u bowl less than 135k, you will NEVER be selected at the international level. That would put an end to this mediocrity we’ve been dealt with lately.

These guys can continue with domestics and be content. Else get a new career.

Edited December 8, 2025 by MK55

[tapandrun]

3 hours ago, AKane said:

I never saw Asif bowling at that speed - I always saw him around 130 sometimes a bit higher but mostly a bit lower.

 

Here he bowls Laxman at 129.6 kmph

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2iWDKcRgdSs

 

My point being if this guy Nabi can get this type of movement - could be worth an investment even at 130kmph esp in places like NZ. Another thing with this Nabi is that the wk and slips are quite back and the ball is carrying..... so the pace is deceptive.

Check this out, sachin , dravid all got balls ~136 kmph, 

 

 

 

 

 

Edited December 9, 2025 by tapandrun

[AKane]

1 hour ago, tapandrun said:

Check this out, sachin , dravid all got balls ~136 kmph, 

Cool.  I wonder how many he did at > 135 kmph? I remember seeing him mostly around 130.

 

Anyway he was deadly around 130 kmph  too.

[pramodk]

Any new exciting talents we can look forward too ?? 

 

Any fast bowlers??

 

This are the new Indians in the pruned auction list ..

 

Sadek Hussain, Vishnu Solanki, Sabir Khan, Brijesh Sharma, Kanishk Chouhan, Aaron George, Jikku Bright, Srihari Nair, Madhav Bajaj, Shreevathsa Acharya, Yashraj Punja, Sahil Parakh, Roshan Waghsare, Yash Dicholkar, Ayaz Khan, Dhurmil Matkar, Naman Pushpak, Parikshit Valsangkar, Purav Agarwal, Rishabh Chouhan, Sagar Solanki, Izaz Sawariya and Aman Shekawat.

[tapandrun]

43 minutes ago, pramodk said:

Any new exciting talents we can look forward too ?? 

 

Any fast bowlers??

 

This are the new Indians in the pruned auction list ..

 

Sadek Hussain, Vishnu Solanki, Sabir Khan, Brijesh Sharma, Kanishk Chouhan, Aaron George, Jikku Bright, Srihari Nair, Madhav Bajaj, Shreevathsa Acharya, Yashraj Punja, Sahil Parakh, Roshan Waghsare, Yash Dicholkar, Ayaz Khan, Dhurmil Matkar, Naman Pushpak, Parikshit Valsangkar, Purav Agarwal, Rishabh Chouhan, Sagar Solanki, Izaz Sawariya and Aman Shekawat.

shabir could be fast bowler frm bihar 

Sahil Parakh plays for maha , has good punch with bat lh batter think hw was u19 ind

sadek pacer from asm  bit slingy action

 

 

Edited December 9, 2025 by tapandrun

[Nikhil_cric]

6 hours ago, AKane said:

I never saw Asif bowling at that speed - I always saw him around 130 sometimes a bit higher but mostly a bit lower.

 

Here he bowls Laxman at 129.6 kmph

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2iWDKcRgdSs

 

My point being if this guy Nabi can get this type of movement - could be worth an investment even at 130kmph esp in places like NZ. Another thing with this Nabi is that the wk and slips are quite back and the ball is carrying..... so the pace is deceptive.

Asif has clocked as high as 142 at one point 

[Nikhil_cric]

9 hours ago, tapandrun said:

 

Ind plays with 2 seamer in Ind,can he be one of those 2 seamer ...??

His pace and bowling style wont work in Aus, Eng now offers flat surfaces ,

On Nz is the place where he can be in the playing 11 but even in NZ they are producing bouncy pitches..

 

have seen a lot of up-take for him in sm and yt, making him look like every team will go for him......he is been in Ind cricket for sometime now, its not like they have not called him for a trial before this season...

 

The slowest international seamer I've seen with any success is Mohammad Abbas who averaged around 128 kph at his peak. 

 

But he had an unusually high release point of 2.1m and was exceptionally accurate with a lot of backspin revs on his wobble ball

 

Mind you, even his best spells were when he was bowling around 131 kph average (Lord's 2018)

 

I don't think this guy will work anywhere. 

 

 

[Rightarmfast]

6 hours ago, AKane said:

I never saw Asif bowling at that speed - I always saw him around 130 sometimes a bit higher but mostly a bit lower.

 

Here he bowls Laxman at 129.6 kmph

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2iWDKcRgdSs

 

My point being if this guy Nabi can get this type of movement - could be worth an investment even at 130kmph esp in places like NZ. Another thing with this Nabi is that the wk and slips are quite back and the ball is carrying..... so the pace is deceptive.

Agreed. For Asif, definitely he was a military medium bowler. But one point to consider is that, during the time Asif was bowling, Pakistan had a better bowling attack. And they did have genuine quicks at the time. So, they could scuffle up the batsmen from the other end while Asif could do his thing.

Had Asif been the only bowler good bowler in the team, his effectiveness would have gone down drastically. 

[tapandrun]

6 minutes ago, Nikhil_cric said:

The slowest international seamer I've seen with any success is Mohammad Abbas who averaged around 128 kph at his peak. 

 

But he had an unusually high release point of 2.1m and was exceptionally accurate with a lot of backspin revs on his wobble ball

 

Mind you, even his best spells were when he was bowling around 131 kph average (Lord's 2018)

 

I don't think this guy will work anywhere. 

 

 

High release, highly accurate, and he has some usual action too.

 

Think abbas and philander would be another one.