Vk1 Posted September 5, 2021 Share Posted September 5, 2021 Siraj in his first year of test cricket is 12 -15 wickets away from surpassing the tally of RP Singh and Nehra Link to comment
speedheat Posted September 5, 2021 Share Posted September 5, 2021 27 minutes ago, Vijy said: still looks pretty rusty though. must be rested next test. He looks tired not rusty, not giving his 100 per. Link to comment
Vijy Posted September 5, 2021 Share Posted September 5, 2021 Just now, speedheat said: He looks tired not rusty, not giving his 100 per. most pacers don't, these days. would rather give it their all in IPL Suhaan 1 Link to comment
Lord Posted September 5, 2021 Share Posted September 5, 2021 Thakur not bowled at all All pacers look out of gas. Link to comment
Vijy Posted September 5, 2021 Share Posted September 5, 2021 Just now, Lord said: Thakur not bowled at all All pacers look out of gas. it's not that they are out of gas. the pitch is pretty flat. but more importantly, they would much rather go full throttle in tourneys like IPL or T20 WC Link to comment
Lord Posted September 5, 2021 Share Posted September 5, 2021 Just now, Vijy said: it's not that they are out of gas. the pitch is pretty flat. but more importantly, they would much rather go full throttle in tourneys like IPL or T20 WC nah both Bumrah and Siraj are bowling slower than before.Fatigue is natural. Link to comment
rkt.india Posted September 5, 2021 Share Posted September 5, 2021 26 minutes ago, Vk1 said: Siraj in his first year of test cricket is 12 -15 wickets away from surpassing the tally of RP Singh and Nehra He has great potential. Bit more red ball experience, he can play next 5-6 years. Vk1 1 Link to comment
express bowling Posted September 5, 2021 Author Share Posted September 5, 2021 Siraj is a pacer who has looked really good when the pitch has provided some assistance. Like Melbourne, Gabba, Ahmedabad 4th test and Lord's. But he has looked unimpressive on pitches which don't provide that much help. Probably lacks the extra pace for such surfaces. Early days but if this trend continues then we should probably use him mostly on helpful surfaces where he is a match winner ... and rest him on flatter surfaces. Mosher and Vijy 2 Link to comment
Lord Posted September 5, 2021 Share Posted September 5, 2021 1 minute ago, express bowling said: Siraj is a pacer who has looked really good when the pitch has provided some assistance. Like Melbourne, Gabba, Ahmedabad 4th test and Lord's. But he has looked unimpressive on pitches which don't provide that much help. Probably lacks the extra pace for such surfaces. Early days but if this trend continues then we should probably use him mostly on helpful surfaces where he is a match winner ... and rest him on flatter surfaces. Lords didnt have much at all Just looked tired today still had one LBW shout. Needs to be patient Link to comment
Vijy Posted September 5, 2021 Share Posted September 5, 2021 Just now, express bowling said: Siraj is a pacer who has looked really good when the pitch has provided some assistance. Like Melbourne, Gabba, Ahmedabad 4th test and Lord's. But he has looked unimpressive on pitches which don't provide that much help. Probably lacks the extra pace for such surfaces. Early days but if this trend continues then we should probably use him mostly on helpful surfaces where he is a match winner ... and rest him on flatter surfaces. In other words, we need to be looking to unearth bowlers who can make something happen even on flattish tracks. need pacers with extra pace and bounce. shows where we are missing out on developing prasidh. and then avesh and tyagi express bowling and Mosher 1 1 Link to comment
express bowling Posted September 5, 2021 Author Share Posted September 5, 2021 For thd first time since 2015, Team India is lacking pace in its test bowling if Bumrah is tired. Shami and Umesh are well into their 30s and have become Fast-medium from Fast. Siraj is Fast-medium Ishant and Shardul are medium pacers now. Bumrah is Fast but is bowling within himself a bit too often in 2021. Where is the extra pace which is needed on flat surfaces ???? ( We could not get England out before an enormous score in the 1st test in Chennai earlier this year. ) We need to solve this issue. Bumrah used to be the enforcer pacer in 2018 and 2019. Who is the enforcer now ???? Vijy and Mosher 1 1 Link to comment
express bowling Posted September 5, 2021 Author Share Posted September 5, 2021 7 minutes ago, Lord said: Lords didnt have much at all The ball was seaming. Vijy and Mosher 2 Link to comment
Vijy Posted September 5, 2021 Share Posted September 5, 2021 Just now, express bowling said: For thd first time since 2015, Team India is lacking pace in its test bowling if Bumrah is tired. Shami and Umesh are well into their 30s and have become Fast-medium from Fast. Siraj is Fast-medium Ishant and Shardul are medium pacers now. Bumrah is Fast but is bowling within himself a bit too often in 2021. Where is the extra pace which is needed on flat surfaces ???? ( We could not get England out before an enormous score in the 1st test in Chennai earlier this year. ) We need to solve this issue. Bumrah used to be the enforcer pacer in 2018 and 2019. Who is the enforcer now ???? Chill out, express-bhai. Unadcutter has your back - he will enforce the fear of God into the batsmen through his 100 km per hour cutters. Mosher and express bowling 2 Link to comment
express bowling Posted September 5, 2021 Author Share Posted September 5, 2021 Our Fast Bowlers need to use the bouncer as a set-up ball on this flat surface. Otherwise they will never get wickets. Push the batters back with a bouncer or two. Then pitch the ball up. The batters won't be so decisive in their footwork and may get out. I don't know why this age old technique is not used regularly on most surfaces. Reluctance to use the bouncer as a set-up ball is one area where modern fast bowlers have regressed big time. The fast bowlers of the 1980s and 1990s were far more liberal in the use of bouncers. You would see one or two bouncers every over. Vijy and Mosher 2 Link to comment
Suhaan Posted September 5, 2021 Share Posted September 5, 2021 10 minutes ago, express bowling said: For thd first time since 2015, Team India is lacking pace in its test bowling if Bumrah is tired. Shami and Umesh are well into their 30s and have become Fast-medium from Fast. Siraj is Fast-medium Ishant and Shardul are medium pacers now. Bumrah is Fast but is bowling within himself a bit too often in 2021. Where is the extra pace which is needed on flat surfaces ???? ( We could not get England out before an enormous score in the 1st test in Chennai earlier this year. ) We need to solve this issue. Bumrah used to be the enforcer pacer in 2018 and 2019. Who is the enforcer now ???? Remember the Name "Chetan Sharma" express bowling and Mosher 2 Link to comment
Suhaan Posted September 5, 2021 Share Posted September 5, 2021 (edited) 11 minutes ago, Vijy said: Chill out, express-bhai. Unadcutter has your back - he will enforce the fear of God into the batsmen through his 100 km per hour cutters. He is goddam speed demon if you compress the pitch by 90% Edited September 5, 2021 by Suhaan express bowling and Mosher 2 Link to comment
express bowling Posted September 5, 2021 Author Share Posted September 5, 2021 3 minutes ago, Suhaan said: Remember the Name "Chetan Sharma" Ironically, in the mid 1980s, Chetan used to be sharp with a whippy action. Tried to bowl as fast as he could with effort. But people change when they grow older. Mosher and Suhaan 2 Link to comment
Vijy Posted September 5, 2021 Share Posted September 5, 2021 3 minutes ago, express bowling said: Our Fast Bowlers need to use the bouncer as a set-up ball on this flat surface. Otherwise they will never get wickets. Push the batters back with a bouncer or two. Then pitch the ball up. The batters won't be so decisive in their footwork and may get out. I don't know why this age old technique is not used regularly on most surfaces. Reluctance to use the bouncer as a set-up ball is one area where modern fast bowlers have regressed big time. The fast bowlers of the 1980s and 1990s were far more liberal in the use of bouncers. You would see one or two bouncers every over. I wonder if this is because, as you have written, our pacers are somewhat down in pace at the moment. this strategy works better if one has extra pace and/or bounce. this is where the likes of prasidh could have come in. express bowling 1 Link to comment
express bowling Posted September 5, 2021 Author Share Posted September 5, 2021 3 minutes ago, Suhaan said: He is goddam speed demon if you compress the pitch by 90% Mosher 1 Link to comment
Suhaan Posted September 5, 2021 Share Posted September 5, 2021 Just now, express bowling said: Ironically, in the mid 1980s, Chetan used to be sharp with a whippy action. Tried to bowl as fast as he could with effort. But people change when they grow older. They think the ones who are in the middle too have grown old Mosher and express bowling 2 Link to comment
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