Muloghonto Posted August 6, 2014 Share Posted August 6, 2014 King Tendulkar stated : Whole muslim world wants them killed (no exaggeration)and will do what ever it takes to exterminate the jews.! Just for example - Iran has some 35000 Jews. If there was any substance to King Tendulkar's statement, the Jewish population in Iran would be 0. Yes, he said Jews, which he was wrong at but change that to Israel and the situation becomes largely true. The Arab Legion did not attack any Israeli territory. The Iraqi army did not attack any Israeli territory. The Lebanese army did not attack any Israeli territory. The Syrian army crossed over the north-eastern Galilee (Israeli territory) into north-western Galilee (Palestinian territory) and cross-border skirmishes ensued. One of the two main Egyptian columns crossed over Israeli territory in the Negev into Beersheba (Palestinian territory). The Egyptian Air Force carried out a few raids on Tel Aviv. What I have emphasized in bold are a violation of Israeli sovereignty if not for the fact that the Israelis were occupying and carrying out operations in the parts of the territory assigned to the Palestinians when they declared the independence of Israel, as "within the frontiers approved by the UNGA Resolution 181". And what was previously a civil war instantly became a war waged by the State of Israel on the Palestinians. The Arab League as the representative of the Palestinians declared the Arab invasion of Palestine at the UN Security Council outlining the legal basis of the invasion, without threatening the sovereignty of Israel and it was accepted without condemnation. And hence 'The Laws of War' permitted them to attack any armed personnel and/or military or paramilitary installation even in Israeli territories and the right to capture Israeli territory for strategic purposes for the duration of hostilities. And that's why there is no UNSC resolution condemning an Arab invasion or aggression against Israel. Look, stop this BS defence of a falsehood. You claimed nobody attacked sovereign Israeli territorry. I proved it to you that the Arab league entered israeli sovereign territory under declaration of war. I dont care if they meant to conquer it, go elsewhere or simply surrender when they reached Tel Aviv, the fact is, the arab league did enter israeli sovereign territory. While the Palestininans are justified in persuing war against Israel (back then even), there is no justification for the likes of Jordan, Syria, Iraq or Egypt. They declared and comitted an act of war on Israel without their nations ever being threatened by Israel, on the behalf of a 'friend'. Well, maybe that friend (Palestine) loves these nations but Israel has justifiable cause to claim 'these Arab nations attacked us first'. For that is 100% true. The nations of Jordan, Syria, Lebanon,Egypt and Iraq have waged war against Israel without an act of war from Israel's behalf towards these nations and most definitely cast the first stone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FischerTal Posted August 6, 2014 Share Posted August 6, 2014 this video helps explains bibi's mind a bit more clearly. lixYEZ9M_dU Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sachin=GOD Posted August 6, 2014 Share Posted August 6, 2014 #NewsFlash | #Hamas must be held accountable for all the children dead in #Gaza: Israel PM Netanyahu in a press conference #NewsFlash | All the civilian casualties were justifiable in #Gaza, we were forced to by #Hamas: Israel PM Netanyahu in a press conference Wah!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crookbond Posted August 6, 2014 Share Posted August 6, 2014 #NewsFlash | #Hamas must be held accountable for all the children dead in #Gaza: Israel PM Netanyahu in a press conference #NewsFlash | All the civilian casualties were justifiable in #Gaza, we were forced to by #Hamas: Israel PM Netanyahu in a press conference Wah!!! In a recent case of Israel strike on a school which killed several childredl, the UN spokesperson said that Israel were given the coordinates of the school 17 times. Next - UN is working in hands with Hamas to use school children as human shields. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
velu Posted August 6, 2014 Share Posted August 6, 2014 In a recent case of Israel strike on a school which killed several childredl' date=' the UN spokesperson said that Israel were given the coordinates of the school 17 times. Next - UN is working in hands with Hamas to use school children as human shields.[/quote'] israel wont gain anything by attacking and killing the children , but it ll give bad publicity to them.. definitely we are missing something here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crookbond Posted August 6, 2014 Share Posted August 6, 2014 israel wont gain anything by attacking and killing the children , but it ll give bad publicity to them.. definitely we are missing something here Tell me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FischerTal Posted August 6, 2014 Share Posted August 6, 2014 palestinians should hope rand paul becomes american prez. he wants to cut off all aid to foreign countries. but for that, he has to win primaries. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coffee_rules Posted August 6, 2014 Share Posted August 6, 2014 palestinians should hope rand paul becomes american prez. he wants to cut off all aid to foreign countries. but for that' date=' he has to win primaries.[/quote'] It is Ron Paul who condemns US Israel policy. He is the Libertarian not Rand Paul of the Tea Party and his son! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FischerTal Posted August 6, 2014 Share Posted August 6, 2014 It is Ron Paul the Libertarian not Rand Paul of the Tea Party! no his son also wants to cut off all aid to foreign nations but if he wants to have a realistic chance at the presidency, he will need to let go of that idea. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
velu Posted August 6, 2014 Share Posted August 6, 2014 Tell me. we are missing :winky: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muloghonto Posted August 6, 2014 Share Posted August 6, 2014 israel wont gain anything by attacking and killing the children , but it ll give bad publicity to them.. definitely we are missing something here I dont think we are missing anything here. War is a very emotional thing- especially for those who sign up to die for it. Its no secret that there are many in the IDF who are extremely racist and would love to kill all the palestinians. Same goes for any armed forces really. They do the killing and the dying and most of them do it by dehumanizing their enemy and hating them. I am sure that incident was not doctored, it was most likely a case of a pilot getting into the 'i gotsa kill em all' mode. Whether it was sanctioned by the top or if they are actually going to punish the pilot are two different matters. But it doesnt work like you think it should, war is messy and soldiers do overstep their mandates and the leaders look the other way when it happens. That sort of thing happens all the time. Take for example Nader Shah's sack of Delhi. His troops killed hundreds of housands and made skull mountains mongol style out of Delhi's populace. But if you read closely, he didnt intend to raze delhi. He was quite happy beating the crap out of the mughals in karnal, then taking his booty home- so much booty that he needed 100+ elephants to carry them! But alas, just before Nader left, a fight between nader's soldiers and some guys from Delhi started the rumor that Nader was assasinated- and then his soldiers started killing, looting and genociding. When Nader found out, he just shrugged, went about collecting his booty and left a disaster heap of delhi. Things like that, happen at war. To think that they must always be sanctioned by the top or if it isnt, then its a fabrication or unnatural, is simply not true. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Detonator Posted August 7, 2014 Share Posted August 7, 2014 The Iron dome system and the proactive measures in Israel is so successful that it's giving bad publicity to Israel here. The main cause of outrage and support for hamas is the extremly one-sided casualty ratio. Israel has many proactive measures for their civilian safety, they have warning alarm for incoming missile/rocket in the borders so that the civilians can move to safe cover, most households have armored safe rooms, buildings, shops even bus stops are built with reinforced concrete to withstand explosions, merkava tank is the first in the world that designed for crew safety, and most importantly the Iron dome's success rate is whopping 80% to 85%. And it's most of all it's hard to differentiate a civilian and a milita there. Even if some 30% of grad or quassam rockets hit their targets in Israel, their casualty might easily crossed 500. Look one can't expect Israel just to build iron domes and concretes and do nothing , so that the hamas militas just keep firing rockets till they exhaust. The people in Gaza are highly impoverished but the govt is spending almost all the money on buying rockets and building tunnels. You can't expect Israel to throw smoke bombs and rubber bullets when they are under attack. Hamas reap what they sow, war takes toll on everything. The stupidity of Hamas is doing more bad than good to Gaza civilians. Hamas vs Israel "war" is now like having a knife fight with optimus prime. More attack will hit the morale of gaza people and they might just give up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sachin=GOD Posted August 7, 2014 Share Posted August 7, 2014 israel wont gain anything by attacking and killing the children , but it ll give bad publicity to them.. definitely we are missing something here As one article said, Hamas may be putting the children and women in the target range deliberately so as to get sympathy and also cause foreign media to show Israel in a bad light. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeautifulGame Posted August 8, 2014 Share Posted August 8, 2014 As one article said' date=' Hamas may be putting the children and women in the target range deliberately so as to get sympathy and also cause foreign media to show Israel in a bad light.[/quote'] http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/middle-east/israelgaza-conflict-the-myth-of-hamass-human-shield-9619810.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Detonator Posted August 8, 2014 Share Posted August 8, 2014 http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/middle-east/israelgaza-conflict-the-myth-of-hamass-human-shield-9619810.html I partially agree with this article. According to this article, the IDA warned a retaliation and fired low intensity warning shots to make people flee from those areas. The hamas reportedly told people to ignore the warnings and stay in their homes. The term "human shield" shldn't be taken literally. It's not like the militants tie a civilian to their body and shoot. The very areas the hamas chose to place their offences were highly populated residencial areas. The hamas neither made any attempts to evacuate the civilians nor they choose a remote place for thier offences. If they deployed the rocket batteries and launchers in an open area, they knew it will be a suicide since Israel would have crushed them within a day. Instead they decided to use the civilian buildings as camouflage to increase their own chances. The below map explains it all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Detonator Posted August 8, 2014 Share Posted August 8, 2014 Since 8:00, over 18 rockets were fired from Gaza at Israel. 2 were intercepted above Ashkelon, 14 hit open areas & 2 landed in Gaza. — IDF (@IDFSpokesperson) August 8, 2014 After 2.5 hours of rocket fire, local Israeli media reporting #Israel has given order to respond. Lots of drones in the sky, F16s too. 2/2 — Ruth Pollard (@rpollard) August 8, 2014 BREAKING: Israeli official: PM Netanyahu & MoD Yaalon ordered IDF to retaliate strongly to Hamas's violation of the ceasefire in Gaza — Barak Ravid (@BarakRavid) August 8, 2014 Hamas is on a suicide mission. They think their own people are colletral damage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Detonator Posted August 8, 2014 Share Posted August 8, 2014 a couple of rockets launched by Hamas landed on Gaza itself. WTF hamas? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
veer Posted August 8, 2014 Share Posted August 8, 2014 Hamas does not want this war to end. They think they have enough sympathy from outside world and triggering more civilian casualties will make it worst for Israel and IDF will eventually stop. But that seems to be back firing. Thanks to NDTV type journalism. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sachin=GOD Posted August 10, 2014 Share Posted August 10, 2014 BREAKING: Palestinian negotiators accept Egyptian proposal for new 72-hour cease-fire. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Desi Cartman Posted August 10, 2014 Share Posted August 10, 2014 no his son also wants to cut off all aid to foreign nations but if he wants to have a realistic chance at the presidency' date=' he will need to let go of that idea.[/quote'] He initially did want all aid cut, now he has taken a U turn. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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