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Azhar was a HTB with an awesome avg of 56 at home but sucked away with the avg dropping to 33 IIRC.that was the case with most Indian batsmen during the 90s eg siddhu' date='manju etc[/quote'] Yes but around the juncture Azhar got dropped, he'd just cracked an amazing ton vs Donald & Pollock at their full pomp and was batting really really well. I think that was the best Azhar had ever played against fast bowlers on juicy pitches over a protracted period of time. At the time Azhar got dropped, strictly on the basis fo his personal performance as a player, he was definitely ahead of everyone but Tendulkar & Ganguly in ODIs and Tendulkar & Dravid in tests for team India.
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Azhar had the most dominant leg-side game i've ever seen. It didnt matter who or what you were, if you strayed anywhere close to the stumps & bowled a fuller length, Azhar would kill you. On any kind of a pitch, ever. He was so strong on the legside because be was a very wristy player with amazing timing. He used to flick balls from off stump to the legside all the time even against 90mph bowlers. But unfortunately, the flick is shot that loses its potency the more bounce there is on the pitch (On the other hand, a godly flicker like Azhar would've been Bradmanesque on the low variable bounce pitches of late 1800s where a lot of bowlers had like 6-7wicket/match ratios and 15-16 averages). In this, he was similar to Laxman but imagine Laxman with a less prominent offside play and a more prominent legside play. Oh and against spin, Azhar was pretty much unstoppable too. But ultimately his tendency to flick the ball so well and so often led him to be squared up more often on juicy pitches with balls that left him(outswingers) and that was his downfall outside India. That is not to say that Azhar was a limited offside batsman- He wasn't like Sidhu, who came with 3 offside scoring shots while carving the legside up like fine cheese. he played and could play almost any shot in the book. It was too late- around the 90s that he started to realize that his game WAS good enough to not compulsively flick everything to the legside and play with a straight bat and was perhaps, finally mature enough to curb his tendencies that were prodigal in that one shot. But it was too late and his corruption had caught up with him. And that is the saddest part of Azhar's career. If he hadn't been involved in matchfixing, he was capable of going down as one of the Indian greats, pushing his average closer to the 50 mark and playing another 30 tests more.

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He had good leadership and communication skills. But once it went to his head, he was a goner. Was good in 1992 WCs and the 1993 Eng series etc. Almost Stephen Flemingesque. But lost it when he went after that woman and then started to think too much about money than cricket.
Azhar started out that way but as he felt comfortable in captaincy he was the biggest jackass. That power stuff went to his head. Like I have said many times before, captaincy is overrated, every game should have a different captain. It is the coaches job to get it done.
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Both were clueless when it came to playing out of subcontinent ...although the defeats that Azhar had were less embarrassing than Dhoni's. I am quite sure if Azhar lost 11 test matches in 3 series ( against eng & Aus) he would have been dropped. But it is business as usual with BCCI as Dhoni and his Kool boys will win some ODI/T20 games to show how great this side is and live the dream most over hyped team in history of Indian cricket.

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Both were clueless when it came to playing out of subcontinent ...although the defeats that Azhar had were less embarrassing than Dhoni's. I am quite sure if Azhar lost 11 test matches in 3 series ( against eng & Aus) he would have been dropped. But it is business as usual with BCCI as Dhoni and his Kool boys will win some ODI/T20 games to show how great this side is and live the dream most over hyped team in history of Indian cricket.
Agreed. Dhoni has been given a much longer rope.
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Azhar was a HTB with an awesome avg of 56 at home but sucked away with the avg dropping to 33 IIRC.that was the case with most Indian batsmen during the 90s eg siddhu' date='[u']manju etc
Not Manju. IIRC, all his test centuries were scored abroad. Of course, there aren't that many centuries to his name because he ended up as an underachiever who was too focused on technique.
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Both gave standard answers in post-match defeat analysis interviews.
"The boys" :hysterical: But I liked him - my father used to call him "vayassan shavi" (Old corpse) but it always was in an endearing fashion, both alluding to his gait and his age esp towards *** end of his career. :hysterical: When the news of match fixing broke out, both of us regretted we tended to like him.
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Azhar was a faaaar batter bat then dhoni. That's my only point. Although he was a bigger scum bag then even dhoni.
If you want to compare batsman compare azhar with bradman or srt or pointing etc while if you want to compare wk/bat compare dhoni to gilly, prior, etc. I'm sure dhoni would rank in top 10 but azhar on the otherhand would rank 50+ atleast.
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If you want to compare batsman compare azhar with bradman or srt or pointing etc while if you want to compare wk/bat compare dhoni to gilly, prior, etc. I'm sure dhoni would rank in top 10 but azhar on the otherhand would rank 50+ atleast.
dhoni is a avg test match keeper,a poor overseas batsman.how can u compare dhoni to prior or gilchrist?they are far better keeper and batsmen

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