Duleep trophy semifinal 2014

[kumar713]

But why can't supposedly good bowlers do well on same pitches.Aaron struggled on same pitch.One would have expected him to run through the batting on this type of pitch It shows value of discipline imo

QFT

[JaFanatic]

Naman Ojha is dealing with tons in FC matches nowadays

[rkt.india]

But why can't supposedly good bowlers do well on same pitches.Aaron struggled on same pitch.One would have expected him to run through the batting on this type of pitch It shows value of discipline imo

But it makes bowlers like Binny great which is not a good thing as this is what enables them selected for International cricket where they are found out because there they don't get get pitches like these. You yourself saw both Binny and Aaron played in England who looked threatening and looked like taking wickets, it wasn't Binny because those pitches were different. Aaron didn't do well here thats a different thing because he bowled badly, cannot defend bad bowling. Also East has the weakest batting line along with Central. South has the best batting line up.

[Lord]

But it makes bowlers like Binny great which is not a good thing as this is what enables them selected for International cricket where they are found out because there they don't get get pitches like these. You yourself saw both Binny and Aaron played in England who looked threatening and looked like taking wickets, it wasn't Binny because those pitches were different. Aaron didn't do well here thats a different thing because he bowled badly, cannot defend bad bowling. Also East has the weakest batting line along with Central. South has the best batting line up.

I wasn't comparing them lol But rather than worry about pitches,we should worry why our best options are so inconsistent that they can't even take advantage of grerntops. If we make pattas,I can understand them failing but not on greentops

[vvvslaxman]

Lord Binny :yess:

[vvvslaxman]

Naman Ojha is dealing with tons in FC matches nowadays

It is a travesty he is not even in the squad. What the heck they were smoking when they picked Saha

[SLICKR392]

Gambo :cheer:

[Insidious]

I wasn't comparing them lol But rather than worry about pitches,we should worry why our best options are so inconsistent that they can't even take advantage of grerntops. If we make pattas,I can understand them failing but not on greentops

Have you remember the second odi between bangladesh and India, earlier this year where we managed to defend 100 odd runs against Banglas? The very same match where binny took 6 wickets but somehow yadav could not able to take even a single wickets. somehow I feel these greentops are tailor-made wickets for 120ks average swing bowlers(like binny) just who love to float the ball in the air, and allow the pitch to do the rest. While tear away fast bowlers rely on bounce, pace or flat but abrasive surface which aid reverse swing, to thrive which unfortunately these green tops don't provide. On the other hand I don't know what BCCI gain by hosting important domestic-matches on these pathetic pitches.You don't find any pitches like this in International venues. No wonder mediocre trundlers like rishi dhawan, and Anureet Singh are in the top most list of highest wicket takers in Ranjis. If BCCI want a fair contest between bat and ball, where a genuine fast bowler can thrive, then they should opt for Dharmashala rather playing in these substandard pitches

[SLICKR392]

Have you remember the second odi between bangladesh and India, earlier this year where we managed to defend 100 odd runs against Banglas? The very same match where binny took 6 wickets but somehow yadav could not able to take even a single wickets. somehow I feel these greentops are tailor-made wickets for 120ks average swing bowlers(like binny) just who love to float the ball in the air, and allow the pitch to do the rest. While tear away fast bowlers rely on bounce, pace or flat but abrasive surface which aid reverse swing, to thrive which unfortunately these green tops don't provide. On the other hand I don't know what BCCI gain by hosting important domestic-matches on these pathetic pitches.You don't find any pitches like this in International venues. No wonder mediocre trundlers like rishi dhawan, and Anureet Singh are in the top most list of highest wicket takers in Ranjis. If BCCI want a fair contest between bat and ball, where a genuine fast bowler can thrive, then they should opt for Dharmashala rather playing in these substandard pitches

A 'quality fast bowler' would destroy any line up on a green deck. What the likes of Yadab lack is control in such wickets. Aaron was all over the place on the same deck- a Steyn or Johnson would have made good use of the wicket.

[Lord]

Have you remember the second odi between bangladesh and India, earlier this year where we managed to defend 100 odd runs against Banglas? The very same match where binny took 6 wickets but somehow yadav could not able to take even a single wickets. somehow I feel these greentops are tailor-made wickets for 120ks average swing bowlers(like binny) just who love to float the ball in the air, and allow the pitch to do the rest. While tear away fast bowlers rely on bounce, pace or flat but abrasive surface which aid reverse swing, to thrive which unfortunately these green tops don't provide. On the other hand I don't know what BCCI gain by hosting important domestic-matches on these pathetic pitches.You don't find any pitches like this in International venues. No wonder mediocre trundlers like rishi dhawan, and Anureet Singh are in the top most list of highest wicket takers in Ranjis. If BCCI want a fair contest between bat and ball, where a genuine fast bowler can thrive, then they should opt for Dharmashala rather playing in these substandard pitches

That BD game wasn't a greentop A good fast bowler will adjust to the track.Ultimately there's no substitute for discipline. These dibbly bowlers are effective on these pitches as they are able to be more accurate.On flat surfaces that obviously isn't enough and you need fast bowlers.But even they need to bowl with some control

[rkt.india]

A 'quality fast bowler' would destroy any line up on a green deck. What the likes of Yadab lack is control in such wickets. Aaron was all over the place on the same deck- a Steyn or Johnson would have made good use of the wicket.

Yes, no one's denying they were poor, but it doesnt mean Binny is a great bowler.

[rkt.india]

That BD game wasn't a greentop A good fast bowler will adjust to the track.Ultimately there's no substitute for discipline. These dibbly bowlers are effective on these pitches as they are able to be more accurate.On flat surfaces that obviously isn't enough and you need fast bowlers.But even they need to bowl with some control

Yes, those pitches in last two matches were greentops and had lot of moisture and uneven bounce and seam movement.

[diga]

Yes' date=' no one's denying they were poor, but it doesnt mean Binny is a great bowler.[/quote'] Then Uthappa is a great batsman :--D

[rkt.india]

Then Uthappa is a great batsman :--D

Uthappa is not a bad batsman by any means. He has scored runs at international level against good bowlers. It is his consistency and temperament which went against him.

[skindia]

Uthappa never got continuous chances as opener like others in international to check consistency

[skindia]

No batsman made 50 on laahi track and robin made hundred,just 1 bad shot selection in whole innings when he was on 10

[rkt.india]

Uthappa never got continuous chances as opener like others in international to check consistency

He did but he failed. He started as an opener in India then failed big time in WC 2007. Just because of him, likes of SRT had to bat in MO and that was the biggest reason we were knocked out in the first round itself. GG, Dhawan, Rohit all have done better than him as an opener in ODIs.

[skindia]

Talking about aus A failure,even gr8 players failed overseas that doesnt mean they didnt get 2nd chance why partiality with robin

[skindia]

He was 20 yr old that time not matured

[skindia]

Saha having thumb injury