shortbread Posted December 12, 2014 Posted December 12, 2014 India must try and play positively and chase the 363. What exactly does Kohli have to loose, this is his moment. His century will save him from some diabolical decisions before and during the test, he is Indian cricket's golden boy at the moment. If India loose trying to play positive cricket people will still praise Kohli for being aggressive. Also the series loss will always be on Dhoni's tab so Kohli wont get any blame. On the other hand if India pull of a spectacular win then it will be a huge boost for Kohli. Another reason is if India doesnt play positively against Lyon, he will chip away with wickets. Vijay will be instrumental in unsettling Lyon, that is if he survives Johnson & co.
Black Zero Posted December 12, 2014 Posted December 12, 2014 What are you smoking bro, forget about even drawing this let alone winning it. We are done in this match.
Cricket_Hacker Posted December 12, 2014 Posted December 12, 2014 On this pitch Lyon will take 8-fer We have no chance,can't even draw Let's wait for next match
zep1706 Posted December 12, 2014 Posted December 12, 2014 The trick is to play normal cricket and forget about the result. If you get bogged down and play for a draw, then you would eventually lose your wicket and make no runs too. If you try to play too aggressively, chances are that you would not last long. If they can get to tea playing normal cricket scoring at a rate of around 3.5 without losing more than 3-4 wickets, assess the situation and make a decision for the final session at tea. Having said that I give Australia about 65-70% chance to win this, 25-30% draw and 5% India win.
shortbread Posted December 12, 2014 Author Posted December 12, 2014 What are you smoking bro' date=' forget about even drawing this let alone winning it. We are done in this match.[/quote'] Exactly! So what does India have to loose then by playing attacking cricket?! The asking rate is under 4 and there are no real demons in the pitch. The Aussie pace battery are bowling tomorrow after less than a days rest, they will tire. The only challenge is Lyon, who should be attacked.
kubrickian Posted December 12, 2014 Posted December 12, 2014 No chance for a win. Batting 3 sessions on fifth day to save a game is a tough task as it is but I think we can draw the game because batsmen seem to be in good nick and pitch is still not very tough to bat on. First hour of batting is crucial.
shortbread Posted December 12, 2014 Author Posted December 12, 2014 If India attacks Clarke will succumb by going defensive. 4 an over is not impossible. But I don't think the Aussies are brave enough to declare, Clarke might look for a 450 run lead to feel safe. Aussies know they have a chance of winning the remaining tests even if this is drawn, rather than the slight chance India might pull of a miracle and Aussies have to go 1 down. Lets see how brave Australia is with their declaration tomorrow.
Marut Posted December 12, 2014 Posted December 12, 2014 The trick is to play normal cricket and forget about the result. If you get bogged down and play for a draw' date=' then you would eventually lose your wicket and make no runs too. If you try to play too aggressively, chances are that you would not last long. If they can get to tea playing normal cricket scoring at a rate of around 3.5 without losing more than 3-4 wickets, assess the situation and make a decision for the final session at tea. Having said that I give Australia about 65-70% chance to win this, 25-30% draw and 5% India win.[/quote'] If the winning chances are close to zero, then batting out a draw is not a bad strategy. Frustrate the bowlers by not giving up wickets. This used to be a common strategy in the past, but the infiltration of T20s have robbed the batsmen of enough patience to grind out test draws.
SLICKR392 Posted December 12, 2014 Posted December 12, 2014 ]The trick is to play normal cricket and forget about the result. If you get bogged down and play for a draw' date= then you would eventually lose your wicket and make no runs too. If you try to play too aggressively, chances are that you would not last long. If they can get to tea playing normal cricket scoring at a rate of around 3.5 without losing more than 3-4 wickets, assess the situation and make a decision for the final session at tea. Having said that I give Australia about 65-70% chance to win this, 25-30% draw and 5% India win. True. I think that's exactly what they would do like the one in NZ which we almost chased down. Play normally and take it from a point where the result is in your reach.
SLICKR392 Posted December 12, 2014 Posted December 12, 2014 If the winning chances are close to zero' date=' then batting out a draw is not a bad strategy. Frustrate the bowlers by not giving up wickets. This used to be a common strategy in the past, but the infiltration of T20s have robbed the batsmen of enough patience to grind out test draws.[/quote'] But its not a good idea to walk into bat with that mindset. Just get in without the target in your head and take make a decision, like Zep said at the Tea or post it.
nitinbwj Posted December 12, 2014 Posted December 12, 2014 I don't think aus is giving us full 3 sessions to bat.What if dgawan fires and 100 is scored in 20 overs.Too much risk.Draw looks only possibility
rajmarie Posted December 12, 2014 Posted December 12, 2014 I don't think aus is giving us full 3 sessions to bat.What if dgawan fires and 100 is scored in 20 overs.Too much risk.Draw looks only possibility :haha::haha::haha: Your comment craks me up. He will not survive more then 5-6 overs.
Vilander Posted December 12, 2014 Posted December 12, 2014 I don't think aus is giving us full 3 sessions to bat.What if dgawan fires and 100 is scored in 20 overs.Too much risk.Draw looks only possibility is he playing in place of Hack Dhawan ? cause we know Dhawan wont fire anything, probably rotis back at home for his wife.
rajmarie Posted December 12, 2014 Posted December 12, 2014 Although I do agree with this thread. India should be positive. Playing for draw will bring more harm & take the team to defeat much much faster (maybe before tea). Play positive...some of the batsman should look to rectify 1st innings mistake & score their 100. Take Lyon out of the equation & more importantly let Australia look for draw.
zep1706 Posted December 12, 2014 Posted December 12, 2014 On this pitch, you would have to play really poorly to get out cheaply, even on the 5th day. Play positive cricket, play your natural game. That is the only way to earn a draw. If you switch on the ultra defensive mode, they will have fielder around your bat all the time. It creates even more pressure. If you score a few runs and manage to get a decent partnership going they would be forced to be a little more defensive.
kosingh Posted December 12, 2014 Posted December 12, 2014 I think Kohli with his immaturity and over confidence might actually try and go for it, and in the process lose the match.
wanted_desi Posted December 12, 2014 Posted December 12, 2014 Just play normally no need to go for win or draw
Tridibans_16 Posted December 12, 2014 Posted December 12, 2014 All the pessimists on this thread, we are losing this right? SO WHAT IS WRONG IN DYING TRYING ?? Should we meekly surrender to Lyon trying to survive 98 overs and getting bowled out in two and a half sessions? If we go for it, these things will happen: 1) Aussie bowlers especially Lyon / Johnson (Vijay to Lyon in first inngs) will struggle to dominate us as they won't be allowed to settle. This will be a massive boost and the Aussies can wilt under pressure (atleast they can commit a few mistakes and we can sneak a draw). 2) Mental boost for the coming matches. Clarke will from now on think twice before declaring as he would know that we will go at the target no matter how pathetic our batting is . 3) As we have seen in the 1st inns, runs will come only when we are positive. 4) Who knows, test cricket is highly unpredictable. We won Adelaide 2003 when for the first two days it seemed we will lose, for the next two, it was all but a draw.
Desi Cartman Posted December 12, 2014 Posted December 12, 2014 One more hour yesterday could have done wonders for India but then scoring 400+ is also not too bad. Take it session by session but I dont really see any chance of India winning this one.
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