Switchblade Posted January 20, 2015 Posted January 20, 2015 http://indianexpress.com/article/sports/cricket/indian-bowlers-have-learnt-nothing-from-their-overseas-experiences-sunil-gavaskar/ Once again slamming the Indian bowlers for their poor showing in Australian conditions ahead of the World Cup, former captain Sunil Gavaskar said that the bowlers have learnt nothing from their past experiences on foreign tours. After failing to take 20 wickets in the 2-0 Test series defeat against Australia, the Indian bowlers once again failed to defend a 267-run total in the tri-series opener against the hosts and Gavaskar is not at all impressed. “The problem I think is that Indian bowlers have learnt nothing from their overseas experiences over the years in limited-overs cricket. So that is a worry. We are just hoping that when the World Cup comes, the fact that they are the defending champions will give tremendous motivation. “At the moment it just looks to me as if even the bowlers are bowling well within themselves. They have had a long tour, the Test series and they don’t want to stretch themselves to such an extent that they might cause some injury to themselves going into the World Cup,” Gavaskar told NDTV. But like a true optimist, Gavaskar still hopes that Mahendra Singh Dhoni and company can take inspiration from their England performance, where the bowlers came good, to make a mark in the 50-over showpiece event. “They handled themselves really well in England. So I am hoping that they will be able to find the same rhythm that had in England and restricted them to win the series 4-1. If that happens then India will be a formidable team,” said the cricketer-turned-analyst. Gavaskar also pins his hopes on Bhuvneshwar Kumar and Mohammed Shami to come out all guns blazing when the situation arises. “My first choice bowlers would be Bhuvneshwar Kumar and Mohammed Shami. I would go in with these two. I would go in with Stuart Binny and I will go in with two spinners as well. Because for the simple reason that Bhuvneshwar can also bat a little bit, he is also a very good fielder. Shami can also tonk along a bit and he is also a very good fielder. With Binny and the two spinners, they all bat. “So I am looking at a team which will have batting depth. Considering the pitches where you are going to play on where the batsmen might just flounder a little bit, like they did at the Gabba. So if they have the batting depth then it sort of covers all my bases,” said the former opener. Gavaskar also opines that the Indian think-tank is looking to slot Virat Kohli at No.4 in the ongoing tri-series and the World Cup. “If you actually have a look at the last ODI series India played against Sri Lanka, you will find that after a couple of games when Virat was not performing he was dropped down the order. And again I think he was batting at No.4 when he got a hundred. “So eventually I have a feeling that they are looking at Virat as a No.4 batsman and they will either have Ajinkya Rahane if they open with Rohit Sharma and Shikhar Dhawan,” he opined. The former opener certainly has an advice in store for very talented Kohli, who has failed to get into double figures in the two games gone by. “What he’s doing wrong is that he is trying something different at this moment. He is looking to go on the front foot and then jumping on to the backfoot well within the crease. What that is doing is that his head is bobbing up and down. “In cricket the head has to be still, if your head is still then you are able to judge the bounce better. Unfortunately because he is jumping and have a look at both his dismissals. His jumping is putting him off balance.” The two ODI losses notwithstanding, Gavaskar still believes that the Men in Blue have it in them to defend the World ODI crown. “Yes, they are. I am pretty confident. Look qualifying for the knockouts should not be a problem. Once you get into the knockouts then it’s the luck of the day that counts. Sometimes you play and miss, sometimes the luck not going your way you edge that ball. “So all those things is going to be an important factor. But if India qualify by winning most of their league games then they will certainly be in the right frame of mind to defend the World Cup,” he concluded.[/
kosingh Posted January 20, 2015 Posted January 20, 2015 Gavaskar has been surprisingly unrestrained in his criticisms of the Indian team lately, even though some of his criticisms and suggestions for remedies seem a bit far fetched.
veer Posted January 20, 2015 Posted January 20, 2015 The former opener certainly has an advice in store for very talented Kohli, who has failed to get into double figures in the two games gone by. “What he’s doing wrong is that he is trying something different at this moment. He is looking to go on the front foot and then jumping on to the backfoot well within the crease. What that is doing is that his head is bobbing up and down. “In cricket the head has to be still, if your head is still then you are able to judge the bounce better. Exactly what i've been saying... Same goes to Rahane as well. Both are trying to play different type of cricket.. they both are talented enough to score from outside or inside of crease... but pre meditating and then jumping in side the crease is just doing more harm then good. I think both Rahane and Kohli were furious at getting out so they are going to correct this foolishness (hopefully).. .
Austin 3:!6 Posted January 20, 2015 Posted January 20, 2015 People think the problem with Indian fast bowlers is lack of pace? Hell no. The biggest problem with them is the lack of proper use of length. Bowlers like Shami, Ishant, Umesh, Aaron bowl one ball at good length around off stump and the next one for sure will be an over pitch leg side half volley. This lack of proper length and line is the reason they never able to extract pressure. Bhuvi was an exception but he seems to be losing his mojo as well. If you can't bowl 2 balls at one length, you will never cause trouble dosen't matter how quick you are. If you are 135kph bowler and play at batsman's patience by regularly bowling at good length outside off, batsman is bound to make mistake. Who ever is our bowling coach, please see this video and teach something to our bowler about how to use length. This is called length bowling (All at Trundler's pace) - Please learn PKpThWWgoM8
veer Posted January 20, 2015 Posted January 20, 2015 People think the problem with Indian fast bowlers is lack of pace? Hell no. The biggest problem with them is the lack of proper use of length. Bowlers like Shami, Ishant, Umesh, Aaron bowl one ball at good length around off stump and the next one for sure will be an over pitch leg side half volley. This lack of proper length and line is the reason they never able to extract pressure. Bhuvi was an exception but he seems to be losing his mojo as well. If you can't bowl 2 balls at one length, you will never cause trouble dosen't matter how quick you are. If you are 135kph bowler and play at batsman's patience by regularly bowling at good length outside off, batsman is bound to make mistake. Who ever is our bowling coach, please see this video and teach something to our bowler about how to use length. This is called length bowling (All at Trundler's pace) - Please learn I know what you are saying.. however, I read some where that Bhuvi was practicing hitting one spot on good length again and again before tri series.. that means they are practicing that hitting the right spot.. but something happens during the match.. We should have Brett Lee as a coach and work with our bowlers.
veer Posted January 20, 2015 Posted January 20, 2015 ^^ just saw the video.. .damn.. he must be the god of bowling in the right area time after time.
The Outsider Posted January 20, 2015 Posted January 20, 2015 Two spinners in Australia during the middle overs is a death knell. Teams will milk them to go in the last 15 overs 2-3 wickets down and murder whoever is bowling at the time.
rkt.india Posted January 21, 2015 Posted January 21, 2015 Two spinners in Australia during the middle overs is a death knell. Teams will milk them to go in the last 15 overs 2-3 wickets down and murder whoever is bowling at the time. Yeah like it happened in NZ last year. Anyway, we dont have bowlers who can take wickets anywhere up front or middle. Can get lucky in slogs.
rkt.india Posted January 21, 2015 Posted January 21, 2015 Looks like Kohli has seen too much of ABDV. He is trying to bat like. This is ABDV's style to bat move back and change the length of the ball.
Old guy Posted January 21, 2015 Posted January 21, 2015 Yeah like it happened in NZ last year. Anyway' date=' we dont have bowlers who can take wickets anywhere up front or middle. Can get lucky in slogs.[/quote'] Ishant is most likely guy and I know I will get laughed at for saying this :cantstop:
CG Posted January 21, 2015 Posted January 21, 2015 Bhuvi has not been a wicket taker in odis for some time now.Yadav cannot maintain consistency ,shami is more of death bowler.This pitches tall bowlers are doing well so no harm in trying ishant with new ball.Aaron should have been there,In odis pace matters in these conditions.
Temujin Khaghan Posted January 21, 2015 Posted January 21, 2015 They learn't that they can never learn anything
Temujin Khaghan Posted January 21, 2015 Posted January 21, 2015 Two spinners in Australia during the middle overs is a death knell. Teams will milk them to go in the last 15 overs 2-3 wickets down and murder whoever is bowling at the time. thats why dhoni will play 3 - ashwin jadeja and axar also raina and rohit as part time.. because dhoni is like that.
CG Posted January 21, 2015 Posted January 21, 2015 thats why dhoni will play 3 - ashwin jadeja and axar also raina and rohit as part time.. because dhoni is like that. No he is not.He does not change much he will go with 3 pacers+2 spinners .And some pitches binny will get a game.
vvvslaxman Posted January 21, 2015 Posted January 21, 2015 People think the problem with Indian fast bowlers is lack of pace? Hell no. The biggest problem with them is the lack of proper use of length. Bowlers like Shami, Ishant, Umesh, Aaron bowl one ball at good length around off stump and the next one for sure will be an over pitch leg side half volley. This lack of proper length and line is the reason they never able to extract pressure. Bhuvi was an exception but he seems to be losing his mojo as well. If you can't bowl 2 balls at one length, you will never cause trouble dosen't matter how quick you are. If you are 135kph bowler and play at batsman's patience by regularly bowling at good length outside off, batsman is bound to make mistake. Who ever is our bowling coach, please see this video and teach something to our bowler about how to use length. This is called length bowling (All at Trundler's pace) - Please learn PKpThWWgoM8 Munna Bhai was the closest to Mcgrath among our bowlers. But he lacked variations.
vvvslaxman Posted January 21, 2015 Posted January 21, 2015 Ishant is the only tallest we have. So we have no choice but to play him. His height enables natural bounce.
Austin 3:!6 Posted January 21, 2015 Posted January 21, 2015 ^^ just saw the video.. .damn.. he must be the god of bowling in the right area time after time. He is the best. With all the raw pace of Brett Lee, Thomson, Akhtar, Lille etc. they all could never really became a McGrath.
Temujin Khaghan Posted January 21, 2015 Posted January 21, 2015 He is the best. With all the raw pace of Brett Lee' date=' Thomson, Akhtar, Lille etc. they all could never really became a McGrath.[/quote'] but to take wickets like mcgrath even the other bowlers will have to maintain pressure. because if umesh yadav and shami are leaking runs on one end, then the batsmen would simply leave a lot of mcgrath wannabe's bowling.
rkt.india Posted January 21, 2015 Posted January 21, 2015 This is called length bowling (All at Trundler's pace) - Please learn PKpThWWgoM8 Look at the bounce he is getting from that length which is what making him difficult to hit. Our midget bowlers will be thrashed no matter what if they dont get seam or swing.
Temujin Khaghan Posted January 21, 2015 Posted January 21, 2015 Look at the bounce he is getting from that length which is what making him difficult to hit. Our midget bowlers will be thrashed no matter what if they dont get seam or swing. first of all our bowlers are midgets on top of that the bounce on Indian wickets is very dull
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