Marut Posted March 15, 2015 Posted March 15, 2015 Bevan was a superior Misbah' date='whereas Dhoni is one of his kind.[/quote'] Bevan was way ahead of Misbah. These two are two decades apart, yet Misbah is slower.
putrevus Posted March 15, 2015 Posted March 15, 2015 Bevan vs dhoni is a no contest. Dhoni wins it hands down.Bevan strength was running singles which Dhoni does equally well and add to that he has big shots which Bevan could never play even in his dreams. Dhoni is an all time great ODI batsmen and is the best WK batsman and best finisher.He will walk in any ODI eleven.
MCGGG Posted March 15, 2015 Posted March 15, 2015 Bevan vs dhoni is a no contest. Dhoni wins it hands down.Bevan strength was running singles which Dhoni does equally well and add to that he has big shots which Bevan could never play even in his dreams. Dhoni is an all time great ODI batsmen and is the best WK batsman and best finisher.He will walk in any ODI eleven. Dhoni is a 3rd world Faulkner.
putrevus Posted March 15, 2015 Posted March 15, 2015 Dhoni is a 3rd world Faulkner. who is faulkner???
Sid Posted March 15, 2015 Posted March 15, 2015 MSD's hitting prowess has atrophied so much that not even funny :((.ODI greatness,best finisher debate aside ,just have a wish as a fan, before he retires we get to see a freewheeling vintage Dhoni innings.
Yoda-esque Posted March 15, 2015 Posted March 15, 2015 MSD reminds me of " the man with no name", waits for the right moment and doesn't blink.
kevinpp24 Posted March 15, 2015 Posted March 15, 2015 There's an important factor that people are not discussing here. Bevan faced way better bowlers and there wasn't any powerplays and cement pitches. Dhoni had the luxury of fielding restrictions, mediocre bowlers and flat pitches. Bevan averaged 53 out of mostly 260+ scores whereas Dhoni averages 52 out of mostly 300+ scores. If you guys want to compare Dhoni do it with his generation of players. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
zep1706 Posted March 15, 2015 Posted March 15, 2015 There's an important factor that people are not discussing here. Bevan faced way better bowlers and there wasn't any powerplays and cement pitches. Dhoni had the luxury of fielding restrictions, mediocre bowlers and flat pitches. Bevan averaged 53 out of mostly 260+ scores whereas Dhoni averages 52 out of mostly 300+ scores. If you guys want to compare Dhoni do it with his generation of players. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk True, when Bevan played no one else was even close to his average. Now we have quite a few players with 50+ average. But Dhoni easily trumps everyone in this era too when it comes to finishing games.
express bowling Posted March 15, 2015 Posted March 15, 2015 There's an important factor that people are not discussing here. Bevan faced way better bowlers and there wasn't any powerplays and cement pitches. Dhoni had the luxury of fielding restrictions, mediocre bowlers and flat pitches. Bevan averaged 53 out of mostly 260+ scores whereas Dhoni averages 52 out of mostly 300+ scores. If you guys want to compare Dhoni do it with his generation of players. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Dhoni has played the majority of his career without fielding restrictions or powerplays. Bevan was not a big hitter but an accumulator of runs. To be a great finisher big hitting is very important....and Dhoni is a master of that. Running between the wickets was Bevan's strong point and Dhoni is equally good at that. Dhoni can do anything that Bevan could but not vice-versa. The quality of ODI bowlers that Bevan and Dhoni have faced are very similar. Dhoni is a master of chasing huge targets ....Bevan does not really compare here.
Muloghonto Posted March 15, 2015 Posted March 15, 2015 There's an important factor that people are not discussing here. Bevan faced way better bowlers and there wasn't any powerplays and cement pitches. Dhoni had the luxury of fielding restrictions, mediocre bowlers and flat pitches. Bevan averaged 53 out of mostly 260+ scores whereas Dhoni averages 52 out of mostly 300+ scores. If you guys want to compare Dhoni do it with his generation of players. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Yes, Bevan had a greater average than Dhoni for his era and Dhoni in the 90s would probably have averaged a shade over 40 or so- which still would've been country miles better than any other #6 in ODIs those days (except Bevan). But overall, Dhoni is a better finisher, of that there is no doubt- the same way Lance Klusener was the best finisher for a few years in the late 90s/early : Bevan was very very poor in hitting boundaries. Mostly it didn't matter for Australia because with Slater/Mark Waugh/Steve Waugh/Ponting, Australia rarely completely lost track of the net run rate in chases & Bevan was able to poke his way to scores like 70 off of 90 balls (2-3 fours) and take his side to victory. Dhoni can do that. Maybe not as well as Bevan can in the 90s setting but i find it hard to believe he would suck at it in the 90s. But what Bevan CANNOT do, is take Australia home with Asking RR being 7 in 90s or 8-9 or more today. That is what Dhoni can do and do really well. So he is my choice.
sweetaskandy Posted March 15, 2015 Posted March 15, 2015 Different eras. Both are/were the best in their times.
sensible-indian Posted March 15, 2015 Posted March 15, 2015 Yes, Bevan had a greater average than Dhoni for his era and Dhoni in the 90s would probably have averaged a shade over 40 or so- which still would've been country miles better than any other #6 in ODIs those days (except Bevan). But overall, Dhoni is a better finisher, of that there is no doubt- the same way Lance Klusener was the best finisher for a few years in the late 90s/early : Bevan was very very poor in hitting boundaries. Mostly it didn't matter for Australia because with Slater/Mark Waugh/Steve Waugh/Ponting, Australia rarely completely lost track of the net run rate in chases & Bevan was able to poke his way to scores like 70 off of 90 balls (2-3 fours) and take his side to victory. Dhoni can do that. Maybe not as well as Bevan can in the 90s setting but i find it hard to believe he would suck at it in the 90s. But what Bevan CANNOT do, is take Australia home with Asking RR being 7 in 90s or 8-9 or more today. That is what Dhoni can do and do really well. So he is my choice. Very good post.
kevinpp24 Posted March 16, 2015 Posted March 16, 2015 Dhoni has played the majority of his career without fielding restrictions or powerplays. Bevan was not a big hitter but an accumulator of runs. To be a great finisher big hitting is very important....and Dhoni is a master of that. Running between the wickets was Bevan's strong point and Dhoni is equally good at that. Dhoni can do anything that Bevan could but not vice-versa. The quality of ODI bowlers that Bevan and Dhoni have faced are very similar. Dhoni is a master of chasing huge targets ....Bevan does not really compare here. That's not true. Powerplays were introduced in 2005 and Dhoni debuted in 2004-05. They even had two Powerplays for quite a while too. The quality of bowling has went down and the quality of death bowling has went down even more alarmingly. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
MCGGG Posted March 16, 2015 Posted March 16, 2015 There's an important factor that people are not discussing here. Bevan faced way better bowlers and there wasn't any powerplays and cement pitches. Dhoni had the luxury of fielding restrictions, mediocre bowlers and flat pitches. Bevan averaged 53 out of mostly 260+ scores whereas Dhoni averages 52 out of mostly 300+ scores. If you guys want to compare Dhoni do it with his generation of players. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Indians only like using such arguments when it suits them, most of them think 3 Indian players would make the greatest combined ODI 11.
FischerTal Posted March 16, 2015 Posted March 16, 2015 300+ scores trend has only started recently. For the most of dhonis career, a score between 270-280 is considered best.
FischerTal Posted March 16, 2015 Posted March 16, 2015 In fact I'm sure if you compare 2011 World Cup to current World Cup, you'll find less 300+ scores. So much for "flat" Indian pitches
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