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Again and again it keeps coming in news how close terrorists reach to acquiring Pakistans nuclear arsenal. I have read again and again that Pakistanis need capability to Nuke Amritsar to Delhi and all the way to mallu land so that Kasmiris can get their right to join Holyland of Pakistan. Offcourse Lahori logic fails to understand that if they bomb Amritsar, Lahore itself will be finished because of Nuclear fallout/aftermath/radiation. So are we doomed because we got a stupid brainless neighbour?

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stop believing in farce news mate.
What is farce news? Every other day Pakistani army keeps on asking for more nuclear weapon to bomb India and Pakistani people applaud it. I think Pakistan already got more than what India got? Secondly, Nuclear radiation is not a news but fact and hence India can not bomb Pakistan because it means to nuking Indians too.
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What is farce news? Every other day Pakistani army keeps on asking for more nuclear weapon to bomb India and Pakistani people applaud it. I think Pakistan already got more than what India got? Secondly, Nuclear radiation is not a news but fact and hence India can not bomb Pakistan because it means to nuking Indians too.
You should try using a few brain cells that you have and not believe the BS 'news' you read. Pakistan has better things to do. How ever 'dumb' these neighbours may be they seem to be smarter than you. :two_thumbs_up:
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I don't know. I heard last time about those nut cases, they killed over 100 young children just like that... no reason. We have every reason to believe that they could do anything. So we are definitely dumb for being their neighbor. :nervous:

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^ that's not funny. Is it? We are not worried that they will use it against us. We are worried that they will use it. They use it and no matter what happens to us, they will be destroyed. In their destruction, there is great danger of fall out on our side of the border which could cause heavy casualties. I am out of this discussion. Its unthinkable. So best thing is to hope that Pak will always protect them.

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not safe really, some of nuc ars fell off loader-truck somewhere roadside while moving etc... anyone picks it up, accidentally takes the pin out or shows a lit matchstick and there u go... kaboom...

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Again and again it keeps coming in news how close terrorists reach to acquiring Pakistans nuclear arsenal. I have read again and again that Pakistanis need capability to Nuke Amritsar to Delhi and all the way to mallu land so that Kasmiris can get their right to join Holyland of Pakistan. Offcourse Lahori logic fails to understand that if they bomb Amritsar, Lahore itself will be finished because of Nuclear fallout/aftermath/radiation. So are we doomed because we got a stupid brainless neighbour?
Say a city like Mumbai with population densities of 100,000 people per square kilometre( avg is 30 k i suppose), a Hiroshima-sized bomb can cause up to 1 mil deaths in the first say 2 weeks. A 1-megaton bomb could promptly kill several million, with the death toll rising over time as blast and thermal effects would kill people immediately. 5-10 times more would be exposed to direct radiation from the blast. Fallout would expose the entire 20 mil . Now multiply this by 2 if Delhi and Mumbai are hit, or by three if Calcutta is also hit or by 4 if Chennai or Bangalore get hit or 5 if all so we are looking at say 100 mil population loss in 3 months 100 million catastrophe ( 100 mil/ 1.2 bil).. But Pak needs 8 of 1 Megaton bombs and delivery systems to do this with 50% survivability, nuclear weapons can not just be launched in rockets, even if the core exists. What ever it is, if its non state or state, after a nuke its devil may care, Indian armed forces will simply enter pakistan and kill them all.
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You should try using a few brain cells that you have and not believe the BS 'news' you read. Pakistan has better things to do. How ever 'dumb' these neighbours may be they seem to be smarter than you. :two_thumbs_up:
Are you claiming that all your nukes are safe? That in a country where every little thing, from assassinating an accused's lawyer to killing a minister to militants getting royal treatment in jails has happened, all your nukes are safe and there is no chance of it falling in bad hands? so, who is being naive here?
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Say a city like Mumbai with population densities of 100,000 people per square kilometre( avg is 30 k i suppose), a Hiroshima-sized bomb can cause up to 1 mil deaths in the first say 2 weeks. A 1-megaton bomb could promptly kill several million, with the death toll rising over time as blast and thermal effects would kill people immediately. 5-10 times more would be exposed to direct radiation from the blast. Fallout would expose the entire 20 mil . Now multiply this by 2 if Delhi and Mumbai are hit, or by three if Calcutta is also hit or by 4 if Chennai or Bangalore get hit or 5 if all so we are looking at say 100 mil population loss in 3 months 100 million catastrophe ( 100 mil/ 1.2 bil).. But Pak needs 8 of 1 Megaton bombs and delivery systems to do this with 50% survivability, nuclear weapons can not just be launched in rockets, even if the core exists. What ever it is, if its non state or state, after a nuke its devil may care, Indian armed forces will simply enter pakistan and kill them all.
Its not about obliteration of India or Pakistan. I expect that in coming years we will have anti missile shield deployed which will defend most Indian states which are few minutes away from Pakistani missile ranges. So our Border states are the ones which will remain vulnerable and hence they themselves too. But there are three ground reality 1. Their military keeps on asking more nuke while they got enough to nuke whole of India. 2. Common sense says India can never nuke Pakistan as fallout is far too dangerous Indians. 3. "Pakistan is our neighbor" that's big problem why would we (India) ever want to annexe part/whole of Pakistan. So possibility of India in a all out war with Pakistan doesnt exist. I stiill cant comprehend what idealogy(if not global terrorism) keeps on Pakistan going with its program of manufacturing more nuclear weapons. Cant a ordinary Pakistani figure out they got enough?
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Its not about obliteration of India or Pakistan. I expect that in coming years we will have anti missile shield deployed which will defend most Indian states which are few minutes away from Pakistani missile ranges. So our Border states are the ones which will remain vulnerable and hence they themselves too. But there are three ground reality 1. Their military keeps on asking more nuke while they got enough to nuke whole of India. 2. Common sense says India can never nuke Pakistan as fallout is far too dangerous Indians. 3. "Pakistan is our neighbor" that's big problem why would we (India) ever want to annexe part/whole of Pakistan. So possibility of India in a all out war with Pakistan doesnt exist. I stiill cant comprehend what idealogy(if not global terrorism) keeps on Pakistan going with its program of manufacturing more nuclear weapons. Cant a ordinary Pakistani figure out they got enough?
I think babar missile covers most of North india.
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Its not about obliteration of India or Pakistan. I expect that in coming years we will have anti missile shield deployed which will defend most Indian states which are few minutes away from Pakistani missile ranges. So our Border states are the ones which will remain vulnerable and hence they themselves too. But there are three ground reality 1. Their military keeps on asking more nuke while they got enough to nuke whole of India. 2. Common sense says India can never nuke Pakistan as fallout is far too dangerous Indians. 3. "Pakistan is our neighbor" that's big problem why would we (India) ever want to annexe part/whole of Pakistan. So possibility of India in a all out war with Pakistan doesnt exist. I stiill cant comprehend what idealogy(if not global terrorism) keeps on Pakistan going with its program of manufacturing more nuclear weapons. Cant a ordinary Pakistani figure out they got enough?
i think you did not read my message. Its not possible to nuke the whole of India, you need tens of thousands of mega tons of yield that does not exist in the world. But fallout can reach the whole of the area is theory but how would so many deliveries get through..what would Indian armed forces do after first hit ?
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US doesn't have a great record either did anyone see John oliver's segment on how they dropped one by mistake on an empty field in the middle of nowhere while transporting it and without any media coverage they sealed off the area

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further to your thoughts Mishra, i think the reason why Pak wants more nuke is because they think being a 'neklear pawar' with 'atmi thakath' gives them lots of bragging rights and a seat in an imaginary who's who table of the world. Its just vanity and reason of existence stuff, pretty pathetic but hey they are scum.

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further to your thoughts Mishra' date=' i think the reason why Pak wants more nuke is because they think being a 'neklear pawar' with 'atmi thakath' gives them lots of bragging rights and a seat in an imaginary who's who table of the world. Its just vanity and reason of existence stuff, pretty pathetic but hey they are scum.[/quote'] Pakistan wants nukes for the same reason as North Korea. They are small people that want to look big
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