Donal Cozzie Posted June 9, 2015 Posted June 9, 2015 Say hello to its much more boring cousin, t50 cricket
Donal Cozzie Posted June 9, 2015 Author Posted June 9, 2015 Travesty, What should be THE perfect format, the defensive aspects of tests (ability to survive the early swinging ball plus a tough spell, ability to get yourself in) at the beginning with the skillset of t20 (taking advantage of the powerplay, smashing a quickfire 40) near the end or middle of an innings, has been botched totally by the ICC in an attempt to attract the t20 crowd (even though ODI's have never struggled for attendance). Now we have t50 cricket, no longer is anything other than a 100 plus SR innings acceptable, boundaries, which used to take skill and actually used to be exciting to watch as you didnt see one every 15 seconds, have been rendered meaningless (England had 52 in an innings today). Bowlers are basically relegated to servant status, their sole purpose to allow batsmen to rack up 100's in 65 balls. No longer do you ask yourself if you'd see an explosive innings in the last 15 overs like you used to, now you ask yourself why there havent been 10 boundaries already in the 7th over. 6 after 6 is hit, 4 after 4 follows, each more pointless and boring than the last. Throw in the fact that chasing teams face a near impossible task in t50 cricket leading to 200 run losses and you get yourself a farce of a format, that hasnt any identity of itself, just a prolonged version of an already successful format that not one person I can recall wanted extended. 2011 WC was the perfect ODI world cup. You could see decent scores, good bowlers got rewarded, some games were low scorers, and bat and ball was somewhat balanced. 4 years later ODI cricket is practically dead in its current state, No reason for it to continue and why it was ever changed from the 2011 WC system which was perfect is astounding to me. Bravo ICC, another job well done
G_B_ Posted June 9, 2015 Posted June 9, 2015 I think this ia bit of an over reaction. Especially the post pointing fingers at the ICC. ICC champions trophy the highest score in 2013 there was one game in which both sides scores 300 plus, India v Sa, the scores were on the lower side. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2013_ICC_Champions_Trophy In the 2015 World cup barring the matches involving minnows there was a balance between the bat and the ball, especially in the knock-out stages.
G_B_ Posted June 9, 2015 Posted June 9, 2015 I think the biggest thing that has changed in the attitude of the batsman with the onset of T20. Players are just scoring faster. Even in test cricket you saw NZ scoring at about 5 runs per over. The norm i would say is about 3 runs per over etc.
Gollum Posted June 9, 2015 Posted June 9, 2015 Travesty, What should be THE perfect format, the defensive aspects of tests (ability to survive the early swinging ball plus a tough spell, ability to get yourself in) at the beginning with the skillset of t20 (taking advantage of the powerplay, smashing a quickfire 40) near the end or middle of an innings, has been botched totally by the ICC in an attempt to attract the t20 crowd (even though ODI's have never struggled for attendance). Now we have t50 cricket, no longer is anything other than a 100 plus SR innings acceptable, boundaries, which used to take skill and actually used to be exciting to watch as you didnt see one every 15 seconds, have been rendered meaningless (England had 52 in an innings today). Bowlers are basically relegated to servant status, their sole purpose to allow batsmen to rack up 100's in 65 balls. No longer do you ask yourself if you'd see an explosive innings in the last 15 overs like you used to, now you ask yourself why there havent been 10 boundaries already in the 7th over. 6 after 6 is hit, 4 after 4 follows, each more pointless and boring than the last. Throw in the fact that chasing teams face a near impossible task in t50 cricket leading to 200 run losses and you get yourself a farce of a format, that hasnt any identity of itself, just a prolonged version of an already successful format that not one person I can recall wanted extended. 2011 WC was the perfect ODI world cup. You could see decent scores, good bowlers got rewarded, some games were low scorers, and bat and ball was somewhat balanced. 4 years later ODI cricket is practically dead in its current state, No reason for it to continue and why it was ever changed from the 2011 WC system which was perfect is astounding to me. Bravo ICC, another job well done POTW. The crown jewel of our game has been reduced to rubble with no redeeming features.
Donal Cozzie Posted June 9, 2015 Author Posted June 9, 2015 I think this ia bit of an over reaction. Especially the post pointing fingers at the ICC. ICC champions trophy the highest score in 2013 there was one game in which both sides scores 300 plus, India v Sa, the scores were on the lower side. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2013_ICC_Champions_Trophy In the 2015 World cup barring the matches involving minnows there was a balance between the bat and the ball, especially in the knock-out stages. You see the problem is the recent rule changes, 2 new balls, Fielding restrictions. Flat as hell surfaces. Boundaries brought in, Big bats. = no balance between bat and ball. And I dont know how you can blame the minnows for this when all the FM's were involved in crap one sided games and if anything the minnows had a part in nearly all of the memorable games. I've no issue with t20 cricket, I like it for what it is, but extend t20 to 50 overs a side and its unbelievably boring, and thats essentially whats happened and I hate it. And I totally blame the ICC for this, they govern the bloody game its their job to make sure this doesnt happen. The fans that love this stuff already flock to t20, and I doubt they're willing to spend 3 times as much time watching an elongated version of t20. Keep ODI's balanced otherwise scrap them, and I say that as someone who loves ODI's.
G_B_ Posted June 9, 2015 Posted June 9, 2015 You see the problem is the recent rule changes, 2 new balls, Fielding restrictions. Flat as hell surfaces. Boundaries brought in, Big bats. = no balance between bat and ball. And I dont know how you can blame the minnows for this when all the FM's were involved in crap one sided games and if anything the minnows had a part in nearly all of the memorable games. I've no issue with t20 cricket, I like it for what it is, but extend t20 to 50 overs a side and its unbelievable boring, and thats essentially whats happened and I hate it. And I totally blame the ICC for this, they govern the bloody game its their job to make sure this doesnt happen. The fans that love this stuff already flock to t20, and I doubt they're willing to spend 3 times as much time watching an elongated version of t20. Keep ODI's balanced otherwise scrap them, and I say that as someone who loves ODI's. how are the ICC to blame for flat surfaces? I am not blaming the minnows. All i am saying is the last two ICC tournaments which the ICC does have input into the preparation of the surfaces there has not been a runaway run inflation if you excluded matches involving minnows where a gulf in quality might be the reason for large scores being posted. There were plenty of sub 250 games. The ICC champions trophy downright favoured the bowlers. Boundaries being brought in etc thats upto the local board how its done. Same with the size of the stadiums. Nz for example play in rugby stadiums for the limited overs with drop in pitches. Its going to be a high scoring game 9 times out of 10. There might come a day when due to economic reasons Ireland use Lansdowne road as a venue with a drop in pitch. Its probably going to be a high scoring game. Now I feel they need to axe the powerplays and also eliminate the 2 new balls rule. That to be fair they can do and should do IMO. But a lot of responsibility rests with the boards. Ultimately its the surfaces which determine and set the tone. What maybe might have happened is that considering its early June the groundsman might have thought weather overhead would play its part. If it was overcast today i assure you it would be a much lower scoring game. I have good knowledge of Wankhede, (my family hails from mumbai) and I have seen low scoring games and high scoring games. When the pitch is tough to bat on the small ground actually makes it harder to rotate the pitch and pinch singles. So it makes a smaller score look even more smaller.
Ironhide Posted June 9, 2015 Posted June 9, 2015 The two balls rule has taken out Spinners as well as Reverse swing from the game, the boundaries guidelines have been issued by the ICC, batting powerplay has been axed and the fielding restrictions have also been recently reversed and will be applicable from next month, But all these things can't reverse the damage done by this stupid 2 ball rule which no-doubt was brought upon by England and Australia as they never have good spinners and are the worst players of spin, Srinivasan went along as all he cared for was money and didn't think that the greatest advantages of India and other subcontinental teams was killed by these rules. Hopefully someone from BCCI thinks about this and lobby back to old single ball rule. But this year is gone now with only batting powerplay and field restriction tackled, hopefully two ball rule would be tackled at next year ICC cricket committee meeting. http://www.espncricinfo.com/ci-icc/content/story/877741.html
Str8Drive Posted June 9, 2015 Posted June 9, 2015 its one match' date=' lets wait[/quote'] It was pretty much like this since 2014 if I recall or earlier. Kept on seeing huge 300+ scores in an ind-aus series then World Cup was a run fest
Texan Posted June 9, 2015 Posted June 9, 2015 I don't see what the big deal is honestly. There is always a progression in scoring rates over the years. If you look at decadal scoring rates in ODIs, you will probably see that the scoring rate has gone up with every successive decade. In the 90s, scores of 300+ were as rare as 400+ are nowadays. 300 now is the new 250 and so on. This is the case with every successive decade. What ICC can perhaps do is to encourage bigger grounds and slightly bowler friendly pitches (where there is a little swing and/or spin).
renjith Posted June 10, 2015 Posted June 10, 2015 scrap 2 new ball rule scrap both powerplays and restrict it to the first 10 overs mandatory restrictions on minimum boundary size restrictions on bat thickness and weight scrap free hit which was one of the wrost rules ever made in cricket don't know if icc can do anything about flat surfaces nothing will be more boring than 6 hours slogging
kosingh Posted June 10, 2015 Posted June 10, 2015 RIP cricket in general. Test cricket died years ago. T20s ...the less said the better.
Sachinism Posted June 10, 2015 Posted June 10, 2015 Seems like people are astounded that England managed to score 400. That right there is everything that is wrong with the game lol
Debutant Posted June 10, 2015 Posted June 10, 2015 It should be :beee: Along with ODIs (t50) stop those tests too and play only IPL
randomGuy Posted June 10, 2015 Posted June 10, 2015 RIP cricket in general. Test cricket died years ago. T20s ...the less said the better. https://youtu.be/gjmnDG5kk7o
RedFever Posted June 10, 2015 Posted June 10, 2015 Say hello to its much more boring cousin' date=' t50 cricket[/quote'] For starters it should be F50
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