express bowling Posted January 31, 2016 Share Posted January 31, 2016 I have seen that interviews mean very little. There have been many pacers, like Munaf, who have talked about trying to bowl 100 mph and not even bowling 80 mph just after that. There have been bowlers talking about line and length, like Umesh , and spraying the ball as badly as they can.It is best to see what the bowler is actually doing. Avesh is trying to bowl with effort and pace every ball...but is still accurate...hitting the deck hard and getting bounce regularly....getting seam movement both ways. That is all that matters.I think Avesh is focusing on both pace and accuracy as of now.....and has the attitude and action to do so in the future..Bowlers like Unadkat and Yomahesh did not have that attitude or such strong action. They perhaps hit 139 k etc. due to good rhythm or more developed bodies at an earlier age. Rightarmfast 1 Link to comment
Rightarmfast Posted January 31, 2016 Share Posted January 31, 2016 I highly appreciate your optimism when it comes to bowling talent @Rightarmfast. I appreciate you keeping a keen eye on our bowling resources.Yeah, I haven't seen Avesh Khan properly. What speed is he bowling?I saw him touching 138kph and for a guy who is in U19, thats express pace. More than the pace, his line and length, accuracy and the angles he was bowling at, he looked like a complete pacer. And these U19 kids are pretty ruthless and have the right attitude, just like virat and yuvraj. This guy along with bathami and Khaleel, should do well... RKT, I read his interview, and he said he wants to concentrate on line and length too.. Not a good sign , sacrificing pace for line and length. Very very Indian mindset. Link to comment
Rightarmfast Posted January 31, 2016 Share Posted January 31, 2016 I have seen that interviews mean very little. There have been many pacers, like Munaf, who have talked about trying to bowl 100 mph and not even bowling 80 mph just after that. There have been bowlers talking about line and length, like Umesh , and spraying the ball as badly as they can.It is best to see what the bowler is actually doing. Avesh is trying to bowl with effort and pace every ball...but is still accurate...hitting the deck hard and getting bounce regularly....getting seam movement both ways. That is all that matters.I think Avesh is focusing on both pace and accuracy as of now.....and has the attitude and action to do so in the future..Bowlers like Unadkat and Yomahesh did not have that attitude or such strong action. They perhaps hit 139 k etc. due to good rhythm or more developed bodies at an earlier age. If you are hitting this kind of pace, I think it means that you have been practising hard and have understood the nuances of fast bowling. If he continues the same way, I dont think theres any reason why he shouldnt increase his pace. express bowling 1 Link to comment
express bowling Posted January 31, 2016 Share Posted January 31, 2016 If you are hitting this kind of pace, I think it means that you have been practising hard and have understood the nuances of fast bowling. If he continues the same way, I dont think theres any reason why he shouldnt increase his pace.Exactly. He is bowling with great effort every ball but still bowling accurately.He has not sacrificed pace for accuracy and that is a good sign. Rightarmfast 1 Link to comment
rkt.india Posted January 31, 2016 Author Share Posted January 31, 2016 I have seen quicker u19. His pace is good for his age but no extraordinary. Jamie Overton from England was hitting 150 kph in 2012. Patrick Cummins was hitting 150 at 17. Those guys were freaks for their age. Link to comment
express bowling Posted January 31, 2016 Share Posted January 31, 2016 I have seen quicker u19. His pace is good for his age but no extraordinary. Jamie Overton from England was hitting 150 kph in 2012. Patrick Cummins was hitting 150 at 17. Those guys were freaks for their age.Even Avesh hit 140 k last year. This year everyone seems 3 to 4 k slower than what they are looking like.Also, as you said....Indians are not at their quickest at age 19 or 20 but European and Africans often are. Link to comment
Mosher Posted January 31, 2016 Share Posted January 31, 2016 I have seen quicker u19. His pace is good for his age but no extraordinary. Jamie Overton from England was hitting 150 kph in 2012. Patrick Cummins was hitting 150 at 17. Those guys were freaks for their age.What happened to Overton? Link to comment
express bowling Posted January 31, 2016 Share Posted January 31, 2016 Bishop was saying today that 18 year old George Garton of England was bowling with serious pace in the nets. He is not in the playing 11 , most probably because he is not that accurate. Link to comment
rkt.india Posted January 31, 2016 Author Share Posted January 31, 2016 What happened to Overton?He was in England squad last year against Australia. Didn't play though. Link to comment
rkt.india Posted January 31, 2016 Author Share Posted January 31, 2016 Bishop was saying today that 18 year old George Garton of England was bowling with serious pace in the nets. He is not in the playing 11 , most probably because he is not that accurate.He played one game in Sl triseries Link to comment
vvvslaxman Posted January 31, 2016 Share Posted January 31, 2016 Shocking defeat for SA. Link to comment
Rightarmfast Posted February 1, 2016 Share Posted February 1, 2016 I have seen quicker u19. His pace is good for his age but no extraordinary. Jamie Overton from England was hitting 150 kph in 2012. Patrick Cummins was hitting 150 at 17. Those guys were freaks for their age.I havent seen any U19 bowling that quick, infact I have never bothered watching U19 except for this year. But we have never had Indian bowlers bowling consistently 150+ at any level. ( Srinath might have hit that pace between 95-97 , but maybe once or twice in an over or two ) . I think its logical to say that someone touching 138+ at this age, can bowl around 145 - 150 range in the next 5 yrs time, if everything goes well. Link to comment
Adi_91 Posted February 1, 2016 Share Posted February 1, 2016 Just saw Avesh bowl. Any idea about his speed? Link to comment
Adi_91 Posted February 1, 2016 Share Posted February 1, 2016 130-138kphThat's mighty impressive at this age. Rightarmfast 1 Link to comment
rkt.india Posted February 1, 2016 Author Share Posted February 1, 2016 134K by Khaleel Manjeraker has no clue saying batham take 5 wickets in the last match. It was Mahipal Lomror not Batham. Link to comment
rkt.india Posted February 1, 2016 Author Share Posted February 1, 2016 131KPH from Mavi easy catch dropped by Sarfaraz 132KPH now Link to comment
rkt.india Posted February 1, 2016 Author Share Posted February 1, 2016 Mavi has a good strong action to be a fast bowler. Link to comment
Singh bling Posted February 1, 2016 Share Posted February 1, 2016 Avesh bowling at 128-132 but still looking good Link to comment
express bowling Posted February 1, 2016 Share Posted February 1, 2016 Avesh bowling at 128-132 but still looking goodAvesh is bowling a bit slower today...maybe tired as this is his 3rd match in six days.He has bowled 128 k to 136 k in the last 2 matches. Link to comment
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