Ranjha Posted March 27, 2016 Posted March 27, 2016 Lol .... this is the easiest way I can explain: Step 1: Bad batsman ---> Replace with good batsmanStep 2: If there is no good batsman to replace bad batsman ----> batting will remain weak Step 3: Strengthen bowling ---> So the weak batting has to do less work (as only 2 or 3 batsmen who are doing bulk of scoring), therefore strengthening bowling indirectly strengthens batting no we need all the batsmen. Never know which one show up. Even though kohli showing up in chases is a certainty. All other batsmen have won matches on their own on their day so it's not like they are not talented. This will be the worst time to make any changes and will only make us worse.
zen Posted March 27, 2016 Posted March 27, 2016 no we need all the batsmen. Never know which one show up. Even though kohli showing up in chases is a certainty. All other batsmen have won matches on their own on their day so it's not like they are not talented. This will be the worst time to make any changes and will only make us worse.That is an unscientific theory. Same thing was floated around before this game that some of the guys will show up at least due to law of averages----> To show up one has to show some good form. Magically things will not change. As I said, a Ford does not turn in to a Aston Martin .... A batsman can be continued if he is showing signs of being in good touch and that he can get a 50. If showing up means hitting a 20 (2 tailenders can also give that), it does not mean much. Primary team India Start of match date greater than or equal to 14 Mar 2016 Ordered by batting average (descending)Page 1 of 1Showing 1 - 11 of 11 First PreviousNext Last Return to query menuCleared query menuOverall figuresPlayerMatInnsNORunsHSAveBFSR1005004s6s V Kohli44218482*92.00139132.37020184MS Dhoni443743074.0061121.3100052R Ashwin421151015.002268.1800010Yuvraj Singh440522413.0052100.0000032RG Sharma440451811.255188.2300041S Dhawan440432310.755282.6900042SK Raina440413010.2533124.2400122HH Pandya42016158.0014114.2800021
zen Posted March 27, 2016 Posted March 27, 2016 ^ did I hear it right that Dhoni is open to changes and horses for courses, and will decide depending up on pitch? Rasgulla and New guy 2
Ultimate_Game Posted March 27, 2016 Posted March 27, 2016 If Yuvi's injury is serious, i.e. a sprain which may not heal by 31st, it's a great opportunity for us to replace Yuvraj with Manish Pandey! I say let's do it and have Pandey at 4 and push Raina down the order to 5. Rasgulla 1
Adi_91 Posted March 27, 2016 Posted March 27, 2016 If Yuvi's injury is serious, i.e. a sprain which may not heal by 31st, it's a great opportunity for us to replace Yuvraj with Manish Pandey! I say let's do it and have Pandey at 4 and push Raina down the order to 5.Never know, Gurkeerat Mann can be drafted in as he can bowl too as a spinner.
G_B_ Posted March 27, 2016 Posted March 27, 2016 (edited) If its a hamstring its gone. Rarely has somebody pulled a hammy and not taken less than a week to recover. If its a sprain its another issue. Then it depends on the sprain.Even MSD realises he may need to replace Yuvi. Its also too late for the likes of Mann or Pandey. Rahane, Parthiv and Bhajji is what he has got. With barely 3 days to goto the semi I think he should make the change of Pappu for Dhawan and Negi if Yuvi is injured. Edited March 27, 2016 by G_B_
Ultimate_Game Posted March 27, 2016 Posted March 27, 2016 Never know, Gurkeerat Mann can be drafted in as he can bowl too as a spinner. I would go for a no. 4 batsman than for someone who can bowl spin. Let's get Pandey in as a standby for Yuvraj. Pandey's stellar fielding would be an added bonus as we would have likes of Jadeja, Pandya, Kohli and Pandey on the field at the same time
Adi_91 Posted March 27, 2016 Posted March 27, 2016 I would go for a no. 4 batsman than for someone who can bowl spin. Let's get Pandey in as a standby for Yuvraj. Pandey's stellar fielding would be an added bonus as we would have likes of Jadeja, Pandya, Kohli and Pandey on the field at the same time I hope too. But then our selectors have literally gone mad and left him out in the first place.
Ultimate_Game Posted March 27, 2016 Posted March 27, 2016 I hope too. But then our selectors have literally gone mad and left him out in the first place.The worst decision we can make is play Rahane or Pappu at 5. I hope not Maybe Dhoni or someone in the team management has sense enough to get Pandey in the team over the next couple of days if Yuvi is unfit for the next game. Pandey has a knack of showing up in pressure games and has experience of winning tough matches.
G_B_ Posted March 27, 2016 Posted March 27, 2016 (edited) he has shone in 1 match. Hardly expirience. I would say take this chance to get Shreyas Iyer in for Dahwan and maybe Rohit can come down the order. Negi is good enough cover for Yuvi. Its the opening which is the biggest hole or worry for India. I thought Aussie bowlers were just about OK. Rohit and Shikar made them look world class. Edited March 27, 2016 by G_B_
Adi_91 Posted March 27, 2016 Posted March 27, 2016 The worst decision we can make is play Rahane or Pappu at 5. I hope not Maybe Dhoni or someone in the team management has sense enough to get Pandey in the team over the next couple of days if Yuvi is unfit for the next game. Pandey has a knack of showing up in pressure games and has experience of winning tough matches.I hope better sense prevails and Manish is brought into the squad.But the bigger question, is Yuvi ruled out in the first place? And if he does get ruled out, will Manish get a game?
Ultimate_Game Posted March 27, 2016 Posted March 27, 2016 he has shone in 1 match. Hardly expirience. I would say take this chance to get Shreyas Iyer in for Dahwan and maybe Rohit can come down the order.He played an unbelievable innings in IPL final chasing a total of 200 or thereabouts and then had a great knock against Aussies. He seems to have that "clutch" gene and someone you can rely on in pressure games. WC2011INDIA 1
Ultimate_Game Posted March 27, 2016 Posted March 27, 2016 I hope better sense prevails and Manish is brought into the squad.But the bigger question, is Yuvi ruled out in the first place? And if he does get ruled out, will Manish get a game?If Yuvi is ruled out, Indian team is within its rights to ask for a replacement. And if they replace Yuvi with Pandey, I don't see any reason why Pandey can't be selected. Given the tourney is being held in India, Pandey wouldn't need any travel related paperwork to be taken care of and can be with the squad the same day he's asked for by the India team management.
G_B_ Posted March 27, 2016 Posted March 27, 2016 well in any case. Its too late. By the time Yuvi'a is scanned etc and a request made to the ICC if at all. The semi will be upon us.Has pandey even played cricket over the past 3-4 weeks? Ie any sort of domestic.?
Adi_91 Posted March 27, 2016 Posted March 27, 2016 If Yuvi is ruled out, Indian team is within its rights to ask for a replacement. And if they replace Yuvi with Pandey, I don't see any reason why Pandey can't be selected. Given the tourney is being held in India, Pandey wouldn't need any travel related paperwork to be taken care of and can be with the squad the same day he's asked for by the India team management.I don't rule out Negi getting the game, as Dhoni may want to play him as a hard hitter. I know, he is not near the class of Yuvi (the past that is), but Pandey may miss out.
bowl_out Posted March 27, 2016 Posted March 27, 2016 ^ did I hear it right that Dhoni is open to changes and horses for courses, and will decide depending up on pitch? Did I hear Dhoni say "Bhuvi" has been travelling with us and practising? Why Bhuvi? An ideal replacement for Yuvi will be Pandey...if it has to be within squad members, then Negi
profster Posted March 27, 2016 Posted March 27, 2016 Yuvi should be fine. Otherwise, open with Rahane and drop Rohit down to #5. Or play Negi (can't see Dhoni taking a chance in the SFs).
zen Posted March 27, 2016 Posted March 27, 2016 Did I hear Dhoni say "Bhuvi" has been travelling with us and practising? Why Bhuvi? An ideal replacement for Yuvi will be Pandey...if it has to be within squad members, then NegiMay be he just used it as an example Rasgulla 1
Ultimate_Game Posted March 27, 2016 Posted March 27, 2016 Did I hear Dhoni say "Bhuvi" has been travelling with us and practising? Why Bhuvi? An ideal replacement for Yuvi will be Pandey...if it has to be within squad members, then NegiIn case of injury you can always get a replacement, which in this case should be another batsman, preferably Pandey. I'm nervous that India will play Rahane at no. 5
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