Yuvraj in doubt for WT20 Semis -May be replaced by Manish Pandey

[Ranjha]

8 hours ago, jf1gp_1 said:

10 thread on yuvi who atleast bowled a few overs picked wicket and stabilised our chase and not 1 thread on openers and raina. 

Exactly...

[Ranjha]

7 hours ago, rett said:

With Yuvi and Raina struggling to put bat on ball, the middle order is already weak unless we are playing cricket on paper. No changes could possible make it weaker 

Yuvi is not struggling to put bat on ball..he is not able to clear the ropes like he did when he was a loi great but putting bat to ball is not the problem..that is the reason he is able to stick around...

Edited March 30, 2016 by Ranjha

[kira]

The hate against yuvi on this forum is disgusting 

[kosingh]

11 hours ago, CommonMan said:

This match is going to be a run feast. It is good to have a batsmen than to have another bits and pieces player.

 

Now that Dhoni has proven all of us who wanted him to retire wrong, a new target is needed at ICF.

[Texan]

Yuvraj T20 batting in the last two years:

 

http://stats.espncricinfo.com/ci/engine/player/36084.html?class=3;spanmin1=01+Apr+2014;spanval1=span;template=results;type=batting

 

Average of 19

Strike rate of 99

Zero fifties, only one score above 30

 

Which other player would have been persisted with?

 

Ohh... And yes, those innings include the infamous 21 ball 11 in a World T20 final, when at the other end Kohli was scoring freely. 

 

 

[sourab10forever]

What's the point of having 15 members in the squad if you can simply add one without any problem?

Simmons back in squad for WI. Bhuvi is like half into the squad . and Now pandey. Shouldn't negi get a chance if yuvi is unfit. There should be some restrictions for changes into squad midway into a tournament. Otherwise you might as well have a 20 member squad.

[sourab10forever]

Pandey can't give us two overs if needed. Depending only on raina for backup overs is not ideal. We will need someone like Negi in the team.

 

[Lannister]

So what is the latest update? Is yuvraj still playing? We need all the batsmen we can get for the next match. Its really a travesty that we have to play on that Pitch against Westindies. God protect our bowlers.

[rkt.india]

57 minutes ago, sourab10forever said:

What's the point of having 15 members in the squad if you can simply add one without any problem?

Simmons back in squad for WI. Bhuvi is like half into the squad . and Now pandey. Shouldn't negi get a chance if yuvi is unfit. There should be some restrictions for changes into squad midway into a tournament. Otherwise you might as well have a 20 member squad.

Negi is a bowler who can bat,. Yuvraj is top order batsman. How can you replace Yuvraj with Negi. Negi is a replacement for Jaddu not for Yuvraj.

[sourab10forever]

2 hours ago, rkt.india said:

Negi is a bowler who can bat,. Yuvraj is top order batsman. How can you replace Yuvraj with Negi. Negi is a replacement for Jaddu not for Yuvraj.

Yes but having only raina as a batsmen can backfire especially if the pitch starts to spin. Dhoni can go up the order .

Rohit Dhawan Kohli Raina Dhoni Pandya Negi Jadeja ...this is a decent batting line up. At least we will have 6 proper bowling options and raina can be the back up. 

[Ranjha]

5 hours ago, Texan said:

Yuvraj T20 batting in the last two years:

 

http://stats.espncricinfo.com/ci/engine/player/36084.html?class=3;spanmin1=01+Apr+2014;spanval1=span;template=results;type=batting

 

Average of 19

Strike rate of 99

Zero fifties, only one score above 30

 

Which other player would have been persisted with?

 

Ohh... And yes, those innings include the infamous 21 ball 11 in a World T20 final, when at the other end Kohli was scoring freely. 

 

 

In this world t20 he is not even the third worst Indian batsman and coming after a 2 year gap to team India is no mean feat...the regulars should be outperforming him but loll

[zen]

This is probably also the end to Yuvi's international career .... Great LOI player for Ind 

 

The selectors are to be blamed for drafting him in the squad for this tournament when he is not at his best. Did try to give his best though

 

Edited March 30, 2016 by rett

[Ultimate_Game]

2 minutes ago, rett said:

This is probably also the end to Yuvi's intwrnational career .... Great LOI player for Ind 

 

The selectors are to be blamed for drafting him in the squad for this tournament when he is not (or past) at his best. Did try to give his best though 

 

Ideally he should've quit after the 2011 WC along with Tendulkar but the selectors brought him back after his recovery from cancer. he was never the same player again. I still recall his debut knock of 84 against Aussies in Champions Trophy way back in 2000 and his half century against Pak in 2003 WC, his performances along with Dhoni's in India's series win in Pak in 2006 IIRC and of course his stellar contributions in 2007 WT20 and WC2011. His knock against Aussies in 2007 WT20 semis still gives me goosebumbs along with his 6 6s against Broad.

[Adi_91]

5 minutes ago, rett said:

This is probably also the end to Yuvi's international career .... Great LOI player for Ind 

 

The selectors are to be blamed for drafting him in the squad for this tournament when he is not at his best. Did try to give his best though

 

He outbatted the top 3 in our batting line up despite not being at his best. Its a kind of a blow for the team as well. Now, Dhoni has to make a decision and the options he has are not his favorites. 

[zen]

20 minutes ago, Adi_91 said:

He outbatted the top 3 in our batting line up despite not being at his best. Its a kind of a blow for the team as well. Now, Dhoni has to make a decision and the options he has are not his favorites. 

 

The point is not who out batted whom as all of them more or less have failed  but that something needed to be done to rectify the situation.  Yuvi's injury gave Ind that opportunity to make the change .... It would have been the same case if Raina (or someone else) had been injured instead of Yuvi

 

Dhoni just needs to go horses for courses. It is not a hard decision at all. I don't know why many of the Ind cricketers are so skeptical about making changes even based on horses for courses and make it appear as if doing the right thing is difficult 

[zen]

25 minutes ago, Ultimate_Game said:

Ideally he should've quit after the 2011 WC along with Tendulkar but the selectors brought him back after his recovery from cancer. he was never the same player again. I still recall his debut knock of 84 against Aussies in Champions Trophy way back in 2000 and his half century against Pak in 2003 WC, his performances along with Dhoni's in India's series win in Pak in 2006 IIRC and of course his stellar contributions in 2007 WT20 and WC2011. His knock against Aussies in 2007 WT20 semis still gives me goosebumbs along with his 6 6s against Broad.

 

Definitely, Yuvi is among the best impact LOI players Ind has had 

[Adi_91]

5 minutes ago, rett said:

 

The point is not who out batted whom as all of them more or less have failed  but that something needed to be done to rectify the situation.  Yuvi's injury gave Ind that opportunity to make the change .... It would have been the same case if Raina (or someone else) had been injured instead of Yuvi

 

Dhoni just needs to go horses for courses. It is not a hard decision at all. I don't know why many of the Ind cricketers are so skeptical about making changes even based on horses for courses and make it appear as if doing the right thing is difficult 

At least Yuvi showed some appetite to be there when the rest had no clue about what they were doing.

On a potentially flat pitch, who would you play in place of Yuvi? Negi or Pandey or Rahane?

[Ultimate_Game]

17 minutes ago, Adi_91 said:

At least Yuvi showed some appetite to be there when the rest had no clue about what they were doing.

On a potentially flat pitch, who would you play in place of Yuvi? Negi or Pandey or Rahane?

If the team management and Dhoni thinks Yuvi's bowling is a bigger loss then they should opt for Negi. if they primarily want a middle order batsman, they should go with Pandey. But if they want to change things a bit, they could go for Rahane as the opener, push Rohit to 4 (the position he plays for MI at the same stadium) and Raina at 5.

Personally I would go with either Negi or Pandey depending on what the team wants to do - play a bowler or batsman.

[zen]

1 hour ago, Adi_91 said:

At least Yuvi showed some appetite to be there when the rest had no clue about what they were doing.

On a potentially flat pitch, who would you play in place of Yuvi? Negi or Pandey or Rahane?

 

Since I like to attack with both the bat and the ball, Panday comes in for Yuvi and Bhajji (or Negi) comes in for Raina. This would strengthen both batting and bowling 

 

Another option is to drop Dhawan and open with Pandya to make the most of PP on that pitch. In place of Dhawan, play Negi as a lower order hitter. Both Negi and Bhajji can combine to score more than what Dhawan has been getting so far in this tourney. But Dhawan tends to do well in key games. However, in Mumbai he may have to get off the block quickly in the PP 

 

 

Edited March 30, 2016 by rett

[Adi_91]

8 minutes ago, rett said:

 

Since I like to attack with both the bat and the ball, Pandya comes in for Yuvi and Bhajji (or Negi) comes in for Raina. This would strengthen both batting and bowling 

 

Another option is to drop Dhawan and open with Pandya to make the most of PP on that pitch. In place of Dhawan, play Negi as a lower order hitter. Both Negi and Bhajji can combine to score more than what Dhawan has been getting so far in this tourney. But Dhawan tends to do well in key games. However, in Mumbai he may have to get off the block quickly in the PP 

 

 

Its about time that our openers play freely from tomorrow. It is everything to lose from now if we don't play fearlessly.

Is Negi an all rounder?