Kohli captain of T20 and ODI

[diehardpacer]

9 hours ago, HippoSucks said:

 

Would Ponting play as a batsman under Clarke's captaincy? Of course not, and it is not because of their ego. 

Ponting gave up captaincy after 2011 WC and played under Clarke till retirement.Check the Aussie Test & ODI squad after 2011 WC.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Australian_cricket_team_in_South_Africa_in_2011–12

[adi B]

T20 captain should be someone else,cant overburden virat.he'll take over dhoni in odis in due time,meanwhile dhoni should give up captaincy asap and just play as a player and work on his hitting at the death

[adi B]

11 hours ago, HippoSucks said:

Aside from the fact that there is nothing wrong with Dhoni's captaincy, it is not going to be possible for Dhoni to play under the captaincy of Dhoni. This has nothing to do with ego, but Dhoni's presence is too large to play under someone else's captaincy. When Dhoni retires, he will go as the captain. 

It has everything to do with his ego but off course blind fans like you wont understand.dhoni could have easily played in the tests solely as a wkt keeper but he didn't like the format anyway and doesn't like playing under any captain ,result was instant retirement

[bowl_out]

Sachin, Dravid, Ganguly played under Dhoni who was 2 years into International cricket... 

 

Don't know why there should be ego..

 

Sanga played under Mahela.. Mahela played under Sanga... Both of them played under Matthews

[New guy]

15 hours ago, HippoSucks said:

Aside from the fact that there is nothing wrong with Dhoni's captaincy, it is not going to be possible for Dhoni to play under the captaincy of Dhoni. This has nothing to do with ego, but Dhoni's presence is too large to play under someone else's captaincy. When Dhoni retires, he will go as the captain. 

Of course there is nothing wrong with his captaincy. We also won this T20 wc since we are talking about fantasies and not facts

 

And in the same post you are admitting that Dhoni's ego is bigger than the team and country

Edited April 1, 2016 by New guy

[HippoSucks]

11 hours ago, rkt.india said:

I think Ponting did play under Clarke.

 

8 hours ago, diehardpacer said:

Ponting gave up captaincy after 2011 WC and played under Clarke till retirement.Check the Aussie Test & ODI squad after 2011 WC.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Australian_cricket_team_in_South_Africa_in_2011–12

 

Yes, but not for a long period of time. 

[New guy]

4 minutes ago, HippoSucks said:

 

 

Yes, but not for a long period of time. 

But considering his age, Dhoni might not play for a long period either

[HippoSucks]

2 minutes ago, New guy said:

But considering his age, Dhoni might not play for a long period either

 

Sangakkara scored 4 centuries in the 2015 World Cup being 37 years old. Dhoni is just 34 and can easily stay until 2019. 

[New guy]

2 minutes ago, HippoSucks said:

 

Sangakkara scored 4 centuries in the 2015 World Cup being 37 years old. Dhoni is just 34 and can easily stay until 2019. 

Hasn't scored a 50 in T20 international in his entire career and you think he will emulate Sangakara in his heydays?

[HippoSucks]

1 minute ago, New guy said:

Hasn't scored a 50 in T20 international in his entire career and you think he will emulate Sangakara in his heydays?

 

I thought the 2019 World Cup was for ODIs, not T20s. In ODIs, Dhoni is leagues ahead of Sangakkara. 

[Bigg Brother]

Mark Nicholas had asked Dhoni after india lost sf against asutralia last year about his future and he said that he will decide after t20 wc in india..And he has decided it now..He thinks that His running between the wickets is enough for him to play till 2019.

Edited April 1, 2016 by Bigg Brother

[HippoSucks]

1 minute ago, Bigg Brother said:

Mark Nicholas had asked Dhoni after india lost sf against asutralia last year about his future and he said that he will decide after t20 wc in india..And he has decided it now..He thinks that His running between the wickets is enough for him to play till 2019.

 

No, he thinks his fitness is good enough for him to play until 2019. 

[king kobra]

1 hour ago, HippoSucks said:

 

I thought the 2019 World Cup was for ODIs, not T20s. In ODIs, Dhoni is leagues ahead of Sangakkara. 

If Dhoni will bat on no 4 Position he will score 4  Hundred

[Bigg Brother]

Just now, HippoSucks said:

 

No, he thinks his fitness is good enough for him to play until 2019. 

He asked journalist that isnt he fit,the way I am running on the field..It not always about fitness who forces you to retire...Isnt watson fit?What about Jhonson??Their performance declined and they retired..

 

I am not that much critical of dhoni as others are here..Even if he continues i will support as at the end of the he is representing india but look beyond blind admiration..

Just now, Bigg Brother said:

He asked journalist that isnt he fit,the way I am running on the field..Its not always about fitness who forces you to retire...Isnt watson fit?What about Jhonson??Their performance declined and they retired..

 

I am not that much critical of dhoni as others are here..Even if he continues i will support as at the end of the he is representing india but look beyond blind admiration..

 

[HippoSucks]

10 hours ago, adi B said:

It has everything to do with his ego but off course blind fans like you wont understand.dhoni could have easily played in the tests solely as a wkt keeper but he didn't like the format anyway and doesn't like playing under any captain ,result was instant retirement

Or maybe he thought he wasn't good enough to continue playing tests? What if he took the decision for the betterment of the team? For people with an agenda against him, everything he does is perceived to have some shady ulterior motive behind it. If he didn't retire from tests, people would harping about how he should retire. Then when he retires, you think he retired because he didn't want to play under another captain. If he wanted to play, but not under another captain, why didn't he just continue as the test captain? The selectors were never going to ask him to step down. If anything, his retirement from tests shows his commitment towards the team.

 

It is beyond me how people can call Dhoni selfish after all he has done for the team. He averages 82 batting at #3 and 60 batting at #4 in ODIs. Despite that, he took the role of being a finisher because that is what India needed. If he was selfish (or rather, not so committed to the team), he could have continued at #3 and racked up 12000 runs with 30 centuries.

 

 

7 hours ago, New guy said:

Of course there is nothing wrong with his captaincy. We also won this T20 wc since we are talking about fantasies and not facts

 

And in the same post you are admitting that Dhoni's ego is bigger than the team and country

Stop this hand-waving and specifically tell me what was wrong with his captaincy in the Asia Cup and the T20 World Cup. 

Edited April 2, 2016 by HippoSucks

[Adi_91]

First of all, it should be a gradual change of guard. At the moment, I want Virat the batsmen badly and don't want captaincy shaptaincy to affect his batting.

 

BCCI should speak to MS and see how long he wants to go and make a plan if possible to slowly let Virat take decisions in a match situation. Overburdening him when he is at the peak of his prowess can backfire.

[sourab10forever]

Dhoni should continue . At least till the next year or so. Not much LOI cricket to be played. 17 tests and kohli should concentrate on that. Once he masters test captaincy then won't be much problem to captain The LOI team .

[diehardpacer]

The problem with Dhoni is his team selection & resistance to any change. Bumrah & Manish Pandey were lucky to be called for Aus tour due to injury to others.Both in the 50 over WC & this T20 WC,bench strength was simply not good. Negi hasn't played any,Shami hasn't bowled for a year,Bhajji & Yuvi are past stories, Rahane ill suited to T20.

 

If you don't select squad covering all bases,you don't have any right to complain about lack of players.The Zim Tour,Bangla series,SA series should have been used to check all players.But that never happened.Persist with Dhoni & he will keep giving the same blah blah excuses & hardly any new player will get chance. It will be the same story all over again in next WC.

 

 

 

 

 

Edited April 2, 2016 by diehardpacer

[rkt.india]

7 hours ago, HippoSucks said:

 

Sangakkara scored 4 centuries in the 2015 World Cup being 37 years old. Dhoni is just 34 and can easily stay until 2019. 

Sangakkara could easily have played 2-3 years more. He was in such a good form.

[diehardpacer]

7 hours ago, HippoSucks said:

 

 

Yes, but not for a long period of time. 

After the 2011 WC till 29 Nov 2012,Ponting played under Clarke in Tests.That's a period of 1.7 year.He was not selected in ODI after Feb 2012.He admitted himself his ODI form was poor & selectors are right in not picking him.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ricky_Ponting#2012:_Test_retirement