express bowling Posted November 29, 2016 Author Share Posted November 29, 2016 10 minutes ago, Cricketics said: Our seamers actually bowled better than theirs. Shami and Yadav were impressive in this game. Especially Shami. Cricketics 1 Link to comment
rkt.india Posted November 29, 2016 Share Posted November 29, 2016 (edited) 1 minute ago, express bowling said: Especially Shami. Yadav was better than Shami in the first innings. Shami was a bit stiff in first innings. Edited November 29, 2016 by rkt.india Link to comment
express bowling Posted November 29, 2016 Author Share Posted November 29, 2016 (edited) 6 minutes ago, rkt.india said: Yadav was better than Shami in the first innings. Shami was a bit stiff in first innings. Shami knows how to take wickets nowadays in tests after his return from injury ( even if he is stiff ) ........Umesh does not That is the difference. Edited November 29, 2016 by express bowling Link to comment
rkt.india Posted November 29, 2016 Share Posted November 29, 2016 (edited) 9 minutes ago, express bowling said: Shami knows how to take wickets nowadays in tests after his return from injury ( even if he is stiff ) ........Umesh does not That is the difference. i was talking about just this test. Yadav still does not execute his bowling well. Shami does do that. Yadav can be predictable. If he bowls bouncers, he keeps bowling bouncers. If bowls full then keeps bowling full. Doesn't mix lengths well. Edited November 29, 2016 by rkt.india raki05 and MCcricket 2 Link to comment
CoverDrive Posted November 29, 2016 Share Posted November 29, 2016 Shami's dismantling of Woakes and then Rashid was awesome. softened him up and then did not back down. express bowling 1 Link to comment
express bowling Posted November 29, 2016 Author Share Posted November 29, 2016 1 hour ago, rkt.india said: i was talking about just this test. But see the results of even this test....both bowled well but Shami has 5 wickets and Umesh has 2. Umesh needs to quickly pickup the sequence of deliveries to bowl to pick up wickets regularly. Link to comment
rkt.india Posted November 29, 2016 Share Posted November 29, 2016 18 minutes ago, express bowling said: But see the results of even this test....both bowled well but Shami has 5 wickets and Umesh has 2. Umesh needs to quickly pickup the sequence of deliveries to bowl to pick up wickets regularly. agree. Actually, it is disappointing to see such a slow growth from Yadav. Link to comment
CG Posted November 29, 2016 Share Posted November 29, 2016 But see the results of even this test....both bowled well but Shami has 5 wickets and Umesh has 2. Umesh needs to quickly pickup the sequence of deliveries to bowl to pick up wickets regularly. Yadav is a swing bowler his length is diff to Shami Also he floats the ball while shami hits the pitch diff types if bowlers they are.First test there was some swing he bowled well and should have got a 5 fer.Shami to me uses the seam pretty well so he is in the game in most pitches.Thing is they compliment each other Yadav with new ball bowls outswinger and reverses in while shami does opp. Link to comment
CG Posted November 29, 2016 Share Posted November 29, 2016 I expect there will be swing in Mumbai so Yadav should do well there. Link to comment
express bowling Posted November 29, 2016 Author Share Posted November 29, 2016 4 minutes ago, CG said: Yadav is a swing bowler his length is diff to Shami Also he floats the ball while shami hits the pitch diff types if bowlers they are.First test there was some swing he bowled well and should have got a 5 fer.Shami to me uses the seam pretty well so he is in the game in most pitches.Thing is they compliment each other Yadav with new ball bowls outswinger and reverses in while shami does opp. In India, reverse swing bowlers with pace in the air, like Umesh Yadav, have the most advantage among pacers. He needs to quickly learn the sequence of deliveries to bowl, to take wickets consistently. Anyway...this thread is not about Umesh...so lets discuss it elsewhere. Laaloo 1 Link to comment
CoverDrive Posted November 29, 2016 Share Posted November 29, 2016 What is significant is that Yadav has improved on his batting. You can see he has ability and can slog but now he is trying to build an inning. This is helping him as if he does not get wickets then they won't directly just get in Bhuvi as a much better batsman. Link to comment
Vijy Posted November 29, 2016 Share Posted November 29, 2016 9 hours ago, CoverDrive said: What is significant is that Yadav has improved on his batting. You can see he has ability and can slog but now he is trying to build an inning. This is helping him as if he does not get wickets then they won't directly just get in Bhuvi as a much better batsman. Well, Yadav does have a fairly big FC 100 - can bat better than a standard No. 11 IMO. Link to comment
express bowling Posted December 20, 2016 Author Share Posted December 20, 2016 Another test win for us on a flat flat track....an innings defeat at that...after losing the toss Mosher 1 Link to comment
express bowling Posted February 13, 2017 Author Share Posted February 13, 2017 Another test win on a flat track......albeit not against a top test team But, our bowlers are getting used to picking 20 wickets on flat tracks again and again .....and pacers are playing decent parts too This part is heartening and it is good to see Kohli using pacers sufficiently and preparing them for bigger workloads Mosher 1 Link to comment
express bowling Posted February 24, 2017 Author Share Posted February 24, 2017 We have played 8 of the last 9 home tests on tracks which were not raging turners.... and won 7 of those 8 test matches and drew the other one. Why change the formula which was working so well ? Most of our batsmen these days are that good against spin and are better at playing pace and bounce.... the innocuous foreign pacers get teeth on raging turners.... we should go back to the tracks we played on against England and NZ. p.s- It has to be said that this pitch has not behaved as viciously as our batting collapse would make it look. We have become really poor against spin. CG 1 Link to comment
CG Posted February 24, 2017 Share Posted February 24, 2017 Just now, express bowling said: We have played 8 of the last 9 home tests on tracks which were not raging turners.... and won 7 of those 8 test matches and drew the other one. Why change the formula which was working so well ? Most of our batsmen these days are that good against spin and are better at playing pace and bounce.... the innocuous foreign pacers get teeth on raging turners.... we should go back to the tracks we played on against England and NZ. p.s- It has to be said that this pitch has not behaved as viciously as our batting collapse would make it look. We have become really poor against spin. Overconfidence not pitch to blame. Link to comment
express bowling Posted February 24, 2017 Author Share Posted February 24, 2017 (edited) 4 minutes ago, CG said: Overconfidence not pitch to blame. I am not blaming the pitch. I am blaming the decision to make such a pitch as it is not our strength any more....as most of our batters cannot play spin and ordinary foreign spinners become tigers. Edited February 24, 2017 by express bowling Link to comment
MK55 Posted February 24, 2017 Share Posted February 24, 2017 Toss plays such a crucial role on pitches such as these. Link to comment
express bowling Posted March 28, 2017 Author Share Posted March 28, 2017 We have won another test on a pitch which was more like an Australian track than an Indian one, after losing the toss. Sidhoni, Laaloo and gattaca 3 Link to comment
Laaloo Posted March 28, 2017 Share Posted March 28, 2017 1 minute ago, express bowling said: We have won another test on a pitch which was more like an Australian track than an Indian one, after losing the toss. This track was like Durban 1996 or Perth early 1990s express bowling and G_B_ 2 Link to comment
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