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6 hours ago, Vijy said:

Eng test series '07 was one example. Could have turned out a bit differently, but maybe not.

Not really, first test we scrapped a draw would have lost if not for rain and Dhoni's valiant innings. 2nd test we won and 3rd test was a flat pitch pitch at oval, both teams scored big runs.

Posted (edited)
16 hours ago, Sidhoni said:

South Africa is #5 despite defeating Aus in Aus?

defeating Aus in Aus does not reflect on points, they won two tests, lost one, didn't get enough points to surpass Aus.

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Posted
1 hour ago, rkt.india said:

defeating Aus in Aus does not reflect on points, they won two tests, lost one, didn't get enough points to surpass Aus.

Which is exactly why these rankings are a joke.

Posted
2 hours ago, rkt.india said:

defeating Aus in Aus does not reflect on points, they won two tests, lost one, didn't get enough points to surpass Aus.

But they won away from home and beat a team higher than them in the ranking table.

 

I was under the impression that ....it would add some points in such a case.

Posted
1 hour ago, Sidhoni said:

Which is exactly why these rankings are a joke.

Rankings are not a joke. Because they do not just reflect what one team has done in one series. They take last 3 years of performance into account. SA were #7 but they still had enough points to not gain a lot of ranking points. If SA had ranking points below 80 then they would have gained quite a few points by beating Aus but because there was not much difference between Aus and SA when it comes to points, they could only manged to come up to 5. Also, rankings do not differentiate between home or away win. I dont even remember the last time SA had beaten Aus in SA.

Posted
1 hour ago, express bowling said:

But they won away from home and beat a team higher than them in the ranking table.

 

I was under the impression that ....it would add some points in such a case.

It does add points if point difference between the two team is very high. If SA 80 or less point, SA would have gained more points, but they didn't because the point difference between the two teams not that high. Also, ranking system does not differentiate between home or away wins. If that was the case, SA has not beaten Aus in SA for a long time now. SA could have gained if they had won 3-0, but they lost last test which neutralized their series win. Points are awarded for winning matches, there are no added points for a series win.

Posted
40 minutes ago, rkt.india said:

Rankings are not a joke. Because they do not just reflect what one team has done in one series. They take last 3 years of performance into account. SA were #7 but they still had enough points to not gain a lot of ranking points. If SA had ranking points below 80 then they would have gained quite a few points by beating Aus but because there was not much difference between Aus and SA when it comes to points, they could only manged to come up to 5. Also, rankings do not differentiate between home or away win. I dont even remember the last time SA had beaten Aus in SA.

That is the problem

Posted
2 hours ago, rkt.india said:

I do not see that as a problem. Win is a win, home or away.

How? Away wins are all the more crucial in recent years now as most teams are becoming HTBs.

Posted
2 minutes ago, Sidhoni said:

How? Away wins are all the more crucial in recent years now as most teams are becoming HTBs.

It has always been the case, not just now. In past years, only one team Aus used to win away from home. Now, SA does win overseas but not regularly and their home record has not been great in last few years.

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Just now, rkt.india said:

It has always been the case, not just now. In past years, only one team Aus used to win away from home. Now, SA does win overseas but not regularly and their home record has not been great in last few years.

And thus away wins should give a team more points as it is evidently not the same as winning at home.

Posted
19 hours ago, Cricketics said:

Bold preiction. I calculate before I predict. You know me, you have been long enough on the website, girl.

 

"They will reply with arsenic."

:wall:

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