What is the best length to bowl in Tests !

[philcric]

Long read, haven't finished yet, but looks like a very good analysis.

 

http://www.thecricketmonthly.com/story/1154076/what-is-the-best-length-to-bowl-in-tests

 

[Khota]

Can you summarize it.

[rkt.india]

6-8 meter and this is the same thing i was arguing about with RAF.

[rkt.india]

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So in general, the evidence is clear. Averaged across a whole match there can be no dispute over the optimum length to bowl: around 6-8m from the stumps, a traditional good length, costs fewer runs per wicket than any other length - some of which take wickets more often. In England, a top-order wicket costs a smidge over 24 runs on a good length. Move a metre fuller and those wickets now cost 30 runs apiece - the opposition's expected total just went up by 20%.

 

[rkt.india]

Highest good-length percentages*

Player	Good-length %
Mohammad Asif	59.5
Ryan Sidebottom	59.1
Glenn McGrath	57.5
Bhuvneshwar Kumar	57.4
Vernon Philander	53.8

[rkt.india]

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One interesting aspect of these bowlers is that, although we think of them as pitch-it-up bowlers, Abbas, Philander and Kumar actually have the three lowest percentages of balls bowled fuller than 5m. They don't bowl half-volleys, they bang out length.

 

[rkt.india]

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(There is an extreme strand that says fuller is better regardless - all day, in all conditions. There is little or no evidence for this in the data. On average, a good length is a good length.)

 

[rkt.india]

 

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There was plenty written and said on the subject of England bowling too short in the first Test at Lord's this summer against Pakistan. 

 

Compare the lengths Anderson and Broad bowled at Lord's earlier this year with when they bowled out New Zealand for 68 there five years ago, taking all ten wickets between them. You will see that they bowled fuller this year. Or indeed, compare them with Mohammad Amir's lengths in his opening spell in the same match. They are certainly no shorter.

 

 

Broad and Anderson		Amir	McGrath
Ball type	Length	v NZ, 2013	v Pak, 2018	2018	2005
Half-volley	<5m	7%	9%	8%	3%
Full length	5-6m	9%	19%	9%	7%
Good length	6-8m	56%	52%	62%	62%
Back of a length	8-9m	19%	14%	17%	25%
Short	>9m	9%	6%	4%	3%

 

Edited August 7, 2018 by rkt.india

[rkt.india]

Hopefully, this article will open lot of people's eyes who consistently cry about bowl full, bowl full instead of bowl good length.

Edited August 7, 2018 by rkt.india

[express bowling]

3 hours ago, rkt.india said:

Hopefully, this article will open lot of people's eyes who consistently cry about bowl full, bowl full instead of bowl good length.

 

There is a reason why good length is called the good length. It is the length where the batsman is unsure whether to come forward or go back.

 

What casual viewers say do not matter ... but what is often worrying is that top international pacers, including many of ours, start bowling too full if there is a hint of movement.

[Global.Baba]

We have 2 bowlers who bowl full and it is their natural length in Umesh and Bhuvi. Bumrah and Ishant are naturally a little short of length, reason why Ishant gets "unlucky" most times. Even though he has improved his length in the last 3-4 years.

 

Interested to see how Bumrah bowls.

 

Pandya is another one who bowls too short.

Edited August 7, 2018 by Global.Baba

[rkt.india]

16 minutes ago, express bowling said:

 

There is a reason why good length is called the good length. It is the length where the batsman is unsure whether to come forward or go back.

 

What casual viewers say do not matter ... but what is often worrying is that top international pacers, including many of ours, start bowling too full if there is a hint of movement.

And that brings runs quickly for opposition.  TBH, I am tired of hearing this bowl full, bowl full ****.

[rkt.india]

10 hours ago, Global.Baba said:

We have 2 bowlers who bowl full and it is their natural length in Umesh and Bhuvi. Bumrah and Ishant are naturally a little short of length, reason why Ishant gets "unlucky" most times. Even though he has improved his length in the last 3-4 years.

 

Interested to see how Bumrah bowls.

 

Pandya is another one who bowls too short.

Did you even read the article? Bhuvi does not bowl full.  it is just a perception. In test cricket, 57% of his deliveries are good length and not full length.

Edited August 8, 2018 by rkt.india

[express bowling]

Create doubt in the batsman regarding whether to play the ball or leave it  ( good line ) ( off stump to 5th stump )

 

Create doubt in the batsman regarding whether to come forward or go back. ( good length )

 

It is this twin doubt which fetches regular wickets.

[rkt.india]

32 minutes ago, express bowling said:

Create doubt in the batsman regarding whether to play the ball or leave it  ( good line ) ( off stump to 5th stump )

 

Create doubt in the batsman regarding whether to come forward or go back. ( good length )

 

It is this twin doubt which fetches regular wickets.

This is what Siraj seems to be doing since England tour A games.

[express bowling]

24 minutes ago, rkt.india said:

This is what Siraj seems to be doing since England tour A games.

 

Which is why I feel that Siraj has found the " secret " to picking regular wickets in 5-day / 4-day games and first 40 overs of 50-over games.

 

If he can maintain his fitness and pace ... good times ahead for him.

[Global.Baba]

3 hours ago, rkt.india said:

Did you even read the article? Bhuvi does not full.  it is just a perception. In test cricket, 57% of his deliveries are good length and not full length.

My bad. read the article now. It says Abbas and Philander bowl similar lengths to Bhuvi .The perception obviously is that all 3 are similar type bowlers who pitch it full.

[Global.Baba]

1 hour ago, express bowling said:

 

Which is why I feel that Siraj has found the " secret " to picking regular wickets in 5-day / 4-day games and first 40 overs of 50-over games.

 

If he can maintain his fitness and pace ... good times ahead for him.

True. Judging Siraj on T20 is so wrong. His lengths at this point are ideal for Tests. He does have a good yorker and slowerball but needs to change his lengths in the limited overs format.

[rkt.india]

10 hours ago, express bowling said:

 

Which is why I feel that Siraj has found the " secret " to picking regular wickets in 5-day / 4-day games and first 40 overs of 50-over games.

 

If he can maintain his fitness and pace ... good times ahead for him.

Remember, Siraj started quite full in England against WI A and got hit for boundaries. He went for around 5-6 an over in his first spell and then he pulled his length back a little from second spell onwards and has been doing so since then.

Edited August 8, 2018 by rkt.india

[Vilander]

top of off stump swinging or seaming if possible. why need such a big article for this.