Nikhil_cric Posted September 4, 2018 Share Posted September 4, 2018 Apart from a really long IPL, look at the international schedule for our cricketers. On the 11th the test series ends in England and we have Asia cup from the 15th? What's worse we have only another 6 days gap between end of Asia cup and windies tour. This tour goes on till November 11th. 21st November the tour in Australia begins and ends on 18th January. How can we expect our players to perform well on hard away tours when some are playing all 3 formats and there is virtually no gap between these series's? How can someone like a Pandya develop his bowling skills or keep his speeds up? How are the bowlers supposed to be injury free with this schedule? Also we have had zero practice matches in both SA and England and looking at the schedule we can squeeze in maybe just 1 practice match in OZ. Can our dismal performances away be explained on the basis of sheer fatigue of the players and the greed by both BCCI and players to make as much money as possible? Btw I needn't mention that this has actually been going on for some time. Even after OZ tour, we have ODIs against NZ, another energy sapping IPL and then the World cup for which we need to be prepared . What solutions do icfers suggest? Discuss. UrmiSinhaRay 1 Link to comment
sensible-indian Posted September 4, 2018 Share Posted September 4, 2018 Stop following Indian cricket. Nikhil_cric and SK_IH 1 1 Link to comment
Switchblade Posted September 4, 2018 Share Posted September 4, 2018 We have had a packed schedule since 2007 before Ipl we used to get 2-3 months break but after Ipl that is not the case. Adi BB and UrmiSinhaRay 1 1 Link to comment
Nikhil_cric Posted September 4, 2018 Author Share Posted September 4, 2018 9 minutes ago, Switchblade said: We have had a packed schedule since 2007 before Ipl we used to get 2-3 months break but after Ipl that is not the case. That schedule is nothing compared to what we have now. Remember we play about the same number of tests and ODIs but now we are playing 3 t20is every tour as well. The gap between each series/ tour is less than a week at times and that is utter nonsense. UrmiSinhaRay 1 Link to comment
Nikhil_cric Posted September 4, 2018 Author Share Posted September 4, 2018 18 minutes ago, sensible-indian said: Stop following Indian cricket. I meant a serious solution :P Link to comment
zen Posted September 4, 2018 Share Posted September 4, 2018 I guess cricket is getting over-exposed. The current generation could probably the last one to follow cricket so passionately Switchblade 1 Link to comment
express bowling Posted September 4, 2018 Share Posted September 4, 2018 Bilateral T20Is need to be reduced. T20s are good for domestic leagues like the IPL ... and World T20s every 4 years. Separate T20I teams need to be selected too ... no player should play more than 2 formats in international cricket unless it is the World T20s or its preparatory series. Nikhil_cric, UrmiSinhaRay, Mosher and 1 other 2 2 Link to comment
WC2011INDIA Posted September 4, 2018 Share Posted September 4, 2018 (edited) This does not apply on Rahane. He is no longer in the scheme of things for ODIs/T20s, so he ought to perform in test cricket otherwise he has no place in the team. I am confident that he will be dropped by his IPL franchise next year. Downward spiral has started in 2018 and will get worse in 2019. By mid 2020 I expect him to announce retirement. Edited September 4, 2018 by WC2011INDIA UrmiSinhaRay 1 Link to comment
Nikhil_cric Posted September 4, 2018 Author Share Posted September 4, 2018 2 minutes ago, zen said: I guess cricket is getting over-exposed. The current generation could probably the last one to follow cricket so passionately This is true as well. Too many formats and just too much cricket being played everywhere. UrmiSinhaRay 1 Link to comment
Adi BB Posted September 4, 2018 Share Posted September 4, 2018 That is why you've got to have a massive pool of players /bench strength and players who are good enough to play for the country especially now that there are so many A tours organised by the board . In some chindi bilaterals ,Asia cup type of trophies ,we should try our bench strength to keep the main players fit speedheat, Nikhil_cric, Switchblade and 1 other 1 3 Link to comment
Nikhil_cric Posted September 4, 2018 Author Share Posted September 4, 2018 1 minute ago, express bowling said: Bilateral T20Is need to be reduced. T20s are good for domestic leagues like the IPL ... and World T20s every 4 years. Separate T20I teams need to be selected too ... no player should play more than 2 formats in international cricket unless it is the World T20s or its preparatory series. I also think it would be better if we select our world cup squad in advance and play practice games in the UK and ensure that this lot skips the IPL next year. After a gruelling 50 day IPL , there are only 10 days and the World Cup starts! We cannot afford injured, fatigued players at the World Cup! UrmiSinhaRay 1 Link to comment
Switchblade Posted September 4, 2018 Share Posted September 4, 2018 1 minute ago, Nikhil_cric said: I also think it would be better if we select our world cup squad in advance and play practice games in the UK and ensure that this lot skips the IPL next year. After a gruelling 50 day IPL , there are only 10 days and the World Cup starts! We cannot afford injured, fatigued players at the World Cup! If this lot skips Ipl then it’s loss for franchise owners Bcci as they are draws for the league. UrmiSinhaRay 1 Link to comment
Nikhil_cric Posted September 4, 2018 Author Share Posted September 4, 2018 Just now, Adi BB said: That is why you've got to have a massive pool of players /bench strength and players who are good enough to play for the country especially now that there are so many A tours organised by the board . In some chindi bilaterals ,Asia cup type of trophies ,we should try our bench strength to keep the main players fit If bcci had the brains , they would have rested all our test players from this useless Asia cup and the LOI leg of our home season so that they can play the full OZ tour instead. But they have rested only Kohli. Adi BB and UrmiSinhaRay 1 1 Link to comment
zen Posted September 4, 2018 Share Posted September 4, 2018 (edited) 41 minutes ago, Nikhil_cric said: What solutions do icfers suggest? Discuss. Have a guideline on the max number of games that Ind can play in a year Account of IPL workload Develop a bunch of core players for all formats Leave a slot open for "no cricket during this period" in a CY Space out the schedule T20 games should largely come from IPL Test cricket should usually be played vs top 3-4 teams ODIs should be kept for marque ICC events Taking the current Eng tour as an example. Not many would remember what happened in the ODIs and/or T20s. If test series is scheduled on a tour, pick either ODIs or T20s to go along with it Because of the work load, the life cycle of cricketers could be reduced so have a plan to groom youngsters. If you have identified 4 core batsmen + 4 core bowlers + 1 WK for a format, the remaining 2 slots can be used to groom youngsters. When these youngsters are ready to take on the challenge, 1-2 of the original core players, who are past their life cycle or not performing, can be replaced by these youngsters and then you bring in 1-2 more youngsters depending up on how the core players and youngsters have performed and so on PS I usually follow test cricket (mostly in SENA), marque LOI events (mainly ICC events) and IPL (not all games) Edited September 4, 2018 by zen UrmiSinhaRay 1 Link to comment
Switchblade Posted September 4, 2018 Share Posted September 4, 2018 18 minutes ago, zen said: I guess cricket is getting over-exposed. The current generation could probably the last one to follow cricket so passionately It’s more like a business now to make money Clt20 was scrapped as it failed to be popular. UrmiSinhaRay 1 Link to comment
zen Posted September 4, 2018 Share Posted September 4, 2018 Just now, Switchblade said: It’s more like a business now to make money Clt20 was scrapped as it failed to be popular. True. And now they want to kill the golden goose UrmiSinhaRay and Switchblade 1 1 Link to comment
zen Posted September 4, 2018 Share Posted September 4, 2018 If we were playing Asia Cup right after the Eng tour, why waste time playing ODIs in Eng? Could have played a couple of practise games ahead of the tests UrmiSinhaRay and Switchblade 1 1 Link to comment
UrmiSinhaRay Posted September 4, 2018 Share Posted September 4, 2018 @Zen @ Nikhil I think ECB/ICC should decide on Which LoI format to keep and then scrap the others. Already a lot of kids, especially from upper middle /upper classes follow football/basketball more than cricketEventually people will stop watching bilaterals and even useless Asia Cup type tourneys and only watch IPL /marquee ICC tourneys. Sent from my CPH1609 using Tapatalk Sgattick10 and zen 1 1 Link to comment
Nikhil_cric Posted September 4, 2018 Author Share Posted September 4, 2018 11 minutes ago, zen said: Have a guideline on the max number of games that Ind can play in a year Account of IPL workload Develop a bunch of core players for all formats Leave a slot open for "no cricket during this period" in a CY Space out the schedule T20 games should largely come from IPL Test cricket should usually be played vs top 3-4 teams ODIs should be kept for marque ICC events Taking the current Eng tour as an example. Not many would remember what happened in the ODIs and/or T20s. If test series is scheduled on a tour, pick either ODIs or T20s to go along with it Because of the work load, the life cycle of cricketers could be reduced so have a plan to groom youngsters. If you have identified 4 core batsmen + 4 core bowlers + 1 WK for a format, the remaining 2 slots can be used to groom youngsters. When these youngsters are ready to take on the challenge, 1-2 of the original core players, who are past their life cycle or not performing, can be replaced by these youngsters and then you bring in 1-2 more youngsters depending up on how the core players and youngsters have performed and so on PS I usually follow test cricket (mostly in SENA), marque LOI events (mainly ICC events) and IPL (not all games) An excellent post. Personally I agree that only ODIs and tests should be part of a tour. T20 should be restricted to leagues and world T20 only. zen and UrmiSinhaRay 1 1 Link to comment
speedheat Posted September 4, 2018 Share Posted September 4, 2018 Cut down the length of the Series against minnows like lanka windies and zimbos, should be as small as 3 t20is 1 odi and 1 testmatch. Use those as breeding ground for young n upcoming rookies. Any tour should have maximum of 3odis 2 t20i and 3 teatmatches. 6 odis or 5 testmatches are just too much to digest for viewers and players, also its hazardous of genuine quickies. UrmiSinhaRay 1 Link to comment
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