Ankit_sharma03 Posted July 30, 2019 Share Posted July 30, 2019 2 hours ago, prasen82 said: RCB. Match made in heaven and in tummy..so yeah FAT chance. RCB also needs a coach who can make their poor perfomance sound like gr8 achievement nevada 1 Link to comment
putrevus Posted July 30, 2019 Share Posted July 30, 2019 Why are people blaming Shastri, the only selection mistake he made was, not playing Mayank.It is the batsmen Kohli and Dhoni were just not good enough.What can coach do when your best batsman cannot even reach double digit score in crunch matches. Invasion 550 1 Link to comment
New guy Posted July 30, 2019 Share Posted July 30, 2019 11 hours ago, retired_hurt said: I am surprised they haven't replaced Kohli as captain after so many disastrous years. Because malya was super busy and the new owners, Diageo are doing pretty well in business Link to comment
velu Posted July 30, 2019 Share Posted July 30, 2019 1 hour ago, New guy said: Because malya was super busy and the new owners, Diageo are doing pretty well in business mallya is fairly successful in almost every business he touched except airlines New guy 1 Link to comment
Khota Posted July 30, 2019 Author Share Posted July 30, 2019 7 hours ago, putrevus said: Why are people blaming Shastri, the only selection mistake he made was, not playing Mayank.It is the batsmen Kohli and Dhoni were just not good enough.What can coach do when your best batsman cannot even reach double digit score in crunch matches. He was the head. Kohli is also being blamed. Link to comment
Ankit_sharma03 Posted July 31, 2019 Share Posted July 31, 2019 16 hours ago, putrevus said: Why are people blaming Shastri, the only selection mistake he made was, not playing Mayank.It is the batsmen Kohli and Dhoni were just not good enough.What can coach do when your best batsman cannot even reach double digit score in crunch matches. Coz he is the part of Team Mngmt and like kohli n dhoni he ll face the flak to Dropping shami was also a misake ...and mistake regd selection have been endless. Even though i beileve captain deserves most blame but coach being part of Tm cant escape it either Khota 1 Link to comment
putrevus Posted July 31, 2019 Share Posted July 31, 2019 12 hours ago, Khota said: He was the head. Kohli is also being blamed. He was the head but he cannot bat for Kohli.They won league phase which proves he was fine as a coach. Link to comment
putrevus Posted July 31, 2019 Share Posted July 31, 2019 (edited) 3 hours ago, Ankit_sharma03 said: Coz he is the part of Team Mngmt and like kohli n dhoni he ll face the flak to Dropping shami was also a misake ...and mistake regd selection have been endless. Even though i beileve captain deserves most blame but coach being part of Tm cant escape it either They did not lose semi finals because Shami did not play, they lost semi finals becuase our Kaptann along with other useless batsmen like Dhoni are useless in crunch matches. Shastri is fine as a coach , he has done nothing wrong.When bozo like MSK even after the world cup says Dhoni is still the best, it tell me something about idiotic selectors rather than coaching. You can say he is the head coach and he should have say in selection but when you have moron as a selector , it is hard IMO. Edited July 31, 2019 by putrevus Link to comment
Ankit_sharma03 Posted July 31, 2019 Share Posted July 31, 2019 24 minutes ago, putrevus said: They did not lose semi finals because Shami did not play, they lost semi finals becuase our Kaptann along with other useless batsmen like Dhoni are useless in crunch matches. I wnt get into ifs n but dropping shami was a blunder from game-1 and after him doing well in WC it was a blunder repeated . 24 minutes ago, putrevus said: Shastri is fine as a coach , he has done nothing wrong.When bozo like MSK even after the world cup says Dhoni is still the best, it tell me something about idiotic selectors rather than coaching. 1st of all u need a new coach for next 4 yrs 2nd of all its diff to judge from outside how a coach has done well or bad but one thing is very clear prep for SA n ENG test series werent good and that falls on coach 24 minutes ago, putrevus said: You can say he is the head coach and he should have say in selection but when you have moron as a selector , it is hard IMO. MSK can give u 15 .............final 11 is coach n captains job . Wc 15 didnt have much issue...1-2 spots will always be debatable but problem was always selection of 11 and lack of persistance among youngsters. Link to comment
putrevus Posted July 31, 2019 Share Posted July 31, 2019 (edited) 20 minutes ago, Ankit_sharma03 said: I wnt get into ifs n but dropping shami was a blunder from game-1 and after him doing well in WC it was a blunder repeated . 1st of all u need a new coach for next 4 yrs 2nd of all its diff to judge from outside how a coach has done well or bad but one thing is very clear prep for SA n ENG test series werent good and that falls on coach MSK can give u 15 .............final 11 is coach n captains job . Wc 15 didnt have much issue...1-2 spots will always be debatable but problem was always selection of 11 and lack of persistance among youngsters. No dropping Shami was correct to maintain balance for a very unbalanced team.Only thing I can debate is selection of DK who was/is useless.Who said you need a new coach, Shastri is fine as a coach. SA and Eng series were lost due to inept batsmen, not coaching faults. When selectors give three WKs in squad of 15 , there is something seriously wrong with selection, coach is trying to get the balance as best as he can in playing XI. I don't see any youngsters who were worth giving chances.Rahul the bozo was given umpteen number of chances what did he do, Ghanta. Coach can only do so much, he cannot create players. Edited July 31, 2019 by putrevus Link to comment
Ankit_sharma03 Posted July 31, 2019 Share Posted July 31, 2019 3 minutes ago, putrevus said: No dropping Shami was correct to maintain balance for a very unbalanced team.Only thing I can debate is selection of DK who was/is useless.Who said you need a new coach, Shastri is fine as a coach. What balance does it bring by dropping one of ur best wkt taker. Dont tell me we ll select bowlers for a bit of batting What happ to the balance when we went in with just 5 bowlers No shastri is not fine as a coach 3 minutes ago, putrevus said: SA and Eng series were lost due to inept batsmen, not coaching faults. It was also lost due to lack of prep and prep is coaches job We went into Sa test series with one net session just one fcking net session...under kirsten we went 15-20 days ahead of the tour .....huge diff 3 minutes ago, putrevus said: When selectors give three WKs in squad of 15 , there is something seriously wrong with selection, coach is try to get the balance as best as he can in playing XI. DK n Pant can play as batsman so nothing wrong in that XI were not selected well , DK was termed as finisher by TM not selectors and then at the end it Was TM only who send him ahead of dhoni 3 minutes ago, putrevus said: I don't see any youngsters who were worth giving chances.Rahul the bozo was given umpteen number of chances what did he do, Ghanta. rahul scored runs in Wc despite having technical issues.....if a player can score with issues he ll do way better when he get rids of those How wud u identify youngtser if ur going to give them 2-3 chances only . 3 minutes ago, putrevus said: Coach can only do so much, he cannot create players. agreed but doesnt mean he has no role Link to comment
putrevus Posted July 31, 2019 Share Posted July 31, 2019 2 minutes ago, Ankit_sharma03 said: What balance does it bring by dropping one of ur best wkt taker. Dont tell me we ll select bowlers for a bit of batting What happ to the balance when we went in with just 5 bowlers No shastri is not fine as a coach It was also lost due to lack of prep and prep is coaches job We went into Sa test series with one net session just one fcking net session...under kirsten we went 15-20 days ahead of the tour .....huge diff DK n Pant can play as batsman so nothing wrong in that XI were not selected well , DK was termed as finisher by TM not selectors and then at the end it Was TM only who send him ahead of dhoni rahul scored runs in Wc despite having technical issues.....if a player can score with issues he ll do way better when he get rids of those How wud u identify youngtser if ur going to give them 2-3 chances only . agreed but doesnt mean he has no role Yes as much as I wanted Shami to play , Bhuvi was not wrong choice.You needed more batting and bowling options. You must be kidding, how can coach get the team 15 days early to SA when team is still playing series in India.You are again living in lala land did India not go early to England, what did batsmen do there, when you have bozos like Rahul as a test opener no team can succeed. Don't blame it on coach.Shastri is just fine, we need to get rid of bozos like Rahul, DK ,Dhoni and ask Kohli to show some spine in crunch matches or ask him to get lost. Link to comment
Ankit_sharma03 Posted July 31, 2019 Share Posted July 31, 2019 (edited) 5 minutes ago, putrevus said: Yes as much as I wanted Shami to play , Bhuvi was not wrong choice.You needed more batting and bowling options. We already selected Jadeja for that ...so how much more batting do we need Bowlers are selected for taking wkts and when it comes to taking wkts bhuvi is miles behind shami Quote You must be kidding, how can coach get the team 15 days early to SA when team is still playing series in India.You are again living in lala land did India not go early to England, what did batsmen do there, when you have bozos like Rahul as a test opener no team can succeed. Series was over before many days ....it was virats wedding due to which they didnt go N if u remember in past we have given young player chances in home series so senior can travel before. Ru seriously defeding one net session that to for SA tour . And what did other openers do vijay or shikhar whom shastri was touting. Rahul atleast has 100 in ENG, AUS.....so he is no boozo Quote Don't blame it on coach.Shastri is just fine, we need to get rid of bozos like Rahul, DK ,Dhoni and ask Kohli to show some spine in crunch matches or ask him to get lost. Rahul is the best talent ........getting best out of him is the coach n captain job rather they sat him when he was in gr8 form Shastri is jack **** fine.........failed to prep team many times cant be termed as fine job Edited July 31, 2019 by Ankit_sharma03 Link to comment
putrevus Posted July 31, 2019 Share Posted July 31, 2019 1 hour ago, Ankit_sharma03 said: We already selected Jadeja for that ...so how much more batting do we need Bowlers are selected for taking wkts and when it comes to taking wkts bhuvi is miles behind shami Series was over before many days ....it was virats wedding due to which they didnt go N if u remember in past we have given young player chances in home series so senior can travel before. Ru seriously defeding one net session that to for SA tour . And what did other openers do vijay or shikhar whom shastri was touting. Rahul atleast has 100 in ENG, AUS.....so he is no boozo Rahul is the best talent ........getting best out of him is the coach n captain job rather they sat him when he was in gr8 form Shastri is jack **** fine.........failed to prep team many times cant be termed as fine job Rahul is one of the most crappy test openers who has played for India, don't blame his failures on coach.He is just that useless, he has no technique for an opener,Coach is there to guide him not baby him if player has nothing to offer.Is Vijay still the opener, who opened in the last test India played. Best talents don't avg 35 after 5 years and 35 tests. Stop blaming coach and captain for everything.It is players who need to stand up and deliver. Coach is not a magician who can transform crappy players like Rahul into Bradmans.Shankars and Dks don't win or lose you cups, it is the core players who failed to deliver and that starts with captain who is supposed to be the best batsman in the planet, if that bozo can't handle new ball then you cannot blame coach. Getting this unbalanced team to perform that well was a miracle in itself.To me captain is the most important player and Kohli the batsman has failed Kohli the captain. This is not football. Link to comment
Ankit_sharma03 Posted July 31, 2019 Share Posted July 31, 2019 (edited) 11 minutes ago, putrevus said: Rahul is one of the most crappy test openers who has played for India, don't blame his failures on coach. Crappy openers dont get tons in AUS, ENG like that .....when he was in good form only coach came out n said he ll be dropped for dhawan who was a proven test failure Quote He is just that useless, he has no technique for an opener,Coach is there to guide him not baby him if player has nothing to offer.Is Vijay still the opener, who opened in the last test India played. not my problem if u dnt have any understanding of technique Vijay did open in Sa right Quote Best talents don't avg 35 after 5 years and 35 tests. Stop blaming coach and captain for everything.It is players who need to stand up and deliver. u also dont give that less amount of cricket to players of his calibre in 5 yrs that to includes most tough tours Most players take their own time..... Quote Coach is not a magician who can transform crappy players like Rahul into Bradmans.Shankars and Dks don't win or lose you cups, it is the core players who failed to deliver and that starts with captain who is supposed to be the best batsman in the planet, if that bozo can't handle new ball then you cannot blame coach. Coach cant transform but backing him is their job not coming out n saying in public that ull be dropped after making runs in overseas for someone who just bashed SL Also how come most batsman have regressed in test cricket under this regime- rahul , vijay, rahane all of them developed technical issues and started struggling Quote Getting this unbalanced team to perform that well was a miracle in itself.To me captain is the most important player and Kohli the batsman has failed Kohli the captain. Whose job was to find balance ....captain n coach Nope its kohli the captain who has failed the team and avl resources ......he is a terrible captain in LOI and sadly shastri doesnt add much . Edited July 31, 2019 by Ankit_sharma03 Link to comment
putrevus Posted July 31, 2019 Share Posted July 31, 2019 6 minutes ago, Ankit_sharma03 said: Crappy openers dont get tons in AUS, ENG like that .....when he was in good form only coach came out n said he ll be dropped for dhawan who was a proven test failure not my problem if u dnt have any understanding of technique Vijay did open in Sa right u also dont give that less amount of cricket to players of his calibre in 5 yrs that to includes most tough tours Most players take their own time..... Coach cant transform but backing him is their job not coming out n saying in public that ull be dropped after making runs in overseas for someone who just bashed SL Whose job was to find balance ....captain n coach Nope its kohli the captain who has failed the team and avl resources ......he is a terrible captain in LOI and sadly shastri doesnt add much . Yes they do , just because Rahul scored some 100s in 35 tests, he does not become a good opener.He is one of the most overrated batsman and most useless opener since 1990s.Agarkar has a test 100 in lords , it does not make him an allrounder or a batsman. Rahul has been backed more than any test player in recent memory and you are still complaining about him not getting chances. How can a coach find balance if he does not have a team to choose. There is a reason why TTFs like Karthik are still circulating in Indian team. After Kohli and Pujara there has been dearth of batting talent and there are no big hitters either in the setup.This team will flop in next T20 world cup too.It won't be coach's fault there also. There is only one all format batsmen in this team and that is Kohli and that is not due to any coaching. Shastri might not be the best coach , I don't see any coach who is going to transform this team into superpower due to lack of batting talent. Link to comment
Moochad Posted July 31, 2019 Share Posted July 31, 2019 RCB need to hire him and do a name change in his honor Royally Choking Bevdas Link to comment
Ankit_sharma03 Posted July 31, 2019 Share Posted July 31, 2019 56 minutes ago, putrevus said: Yes they do , just because Rahul scored some 100s in 35 tests, he does not become a good opener.He is one of the most overrated batsman and most useless opener since 1990s.Agarkar has a test 100 in lords , it does not make him an allrounder or a batsman. Some 100s.........those are in Aus , ENG....shastri wanted to play dhawan n rohit who struggle to score a 50 In agarkar case we are talking about 1- 100 , at that logic we will never take anyone runs 5 100s in 35 test is not bad....among which 3 are overseas 56 minutes ago, putrevus said: Rahul has been backed more than any test player in recent memory and you are still complaining about him not getting chances. He has been backed when ??? only on england tour or when his form hit a serious low U wanna know backing look at the way ganguly backed guys like yuvi, zak , sehwag, bhajji or dhoni backed his players like rohit, jaddu for years thats called backing - this isnt backing when a split personality suffering kohli says in SL Rahul is to good a batsman to sit out n makes him bat at 4.....drops him after 3 game stating he is now backup opener and then makes him bat at 4 in Wc u call this same 56 minutes ago, putrevus said: How can a coach find balance if he does not have a team to choose. There is a reason why TTFs like Karthik are still circulating in Indian team. After Kohli and Pujara there has been dearth of batting talent and there are no big hitters either in the setup.This team will flop in next T20 world cup too.It won't be coach's fault there also. Why cnt coach find balance when every resource is avl only problem is they cant stick with one combination Who bought back TTF like karthik - captain n coach only Dearth of batting talent its only lack of patinece the name ur taking pujara how long did it take him to get going overseas. Ur dissing Rahul who got 100s in his 1st Aus, ENG, WI tour whereas takig pujara xample who didnt get a single 100 in his 1st overseas tour of Aus, ENG, WI 56 minutes ago, putrevus said: Shastri might not be the best coach , I don't see any coach who is going to transform this team into superpower due to lack of batting talent. coaches cant transform but they can prep team well and have vision Gary was knwn to prep team at his best Mahela can be great strategically something captain badly needs Tom moody again does well on vision front as seen his Work with SRH and SL team Link to comment
Pakistan Posted July 31, 2019 Share Posted July 31, 2019 If they have their own TV channel they may hire him as in house commentator similar to Gary Gillespie and John Aldridge for Liverpool FC TV. Link to comment
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