maniac Posted May 10, 2017 Share Posted May 10, 2017 Just now, laaloo said: Manjrekar already used that lol Anything ridiculing Indian players...that mofo seems to be ahead of the curve nevada and Laaloo 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ultimate_Game Posted May 10, 2017 Share Posted May 10, 2017 1 minute ago, maniac said: Anything ridiculing Indian players...that mofo seems to be ahead of the curve Manjreka is Shashank Manohar of commentators - trash and needs to be kicked out Laaloo 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Straight Drive Posted May 10, 2017 Share Posted May 10, 2017 Thats to harsh at a youngster..... Too much expectation, with such lil experience we shud only look at the talent that any youngster have. Consistency comes with experience Why harsh. Youngsters like Ishan kishan, Rahul Tripathi are performing wih same inexpeience. Sent from my ASUS_Z00LD using Tapatalk Ultimate_Game 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cricketics Posted May 10, 2017 Share Posted May 10, 2017 30 minutes ago, Ankit_sharma03 said: Thats to harsh at a youngster..... Too much expectation, with such lil experience we shud only look at the talent that any youngster have. Consistency comes with experience Most commentators are already impressed with him, in parrticular overseas ones. They know he can be the deal. Every top bowler in the world has gotten smacked in t20s and in IPl also like Steyn, Johnson etc. So Thampi is still the newbie dude who will learn. He is already trying different variations like slow ones etc, i just felt he tried a bit too muvh at times, but this is what experience from this year bring to his bowling. He did fine this year, yes not great but he has done enough. Like i said, in t20s, every random bowler goes for runs, from greatest to the worst. nevada, Ultimate_Game and maniac 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ankit_sharma03 Posted May 10, 2017 Share Posted May 10, 2017 (edited) 7 minutes ago, Straight Drive said: Why harsh. Youngsters like Ishan kishan, Rahul Tripathi are performing wih same inexpeience. Sent from my ASUS_Z00LD using Tapatalk ur comparing a bowler to a batsman...... T20 is not a easy format for bowlers Also if u check their Fc record....both have played double the game means a season more. It makes a huge diff Bumrah the yorker specialist had 11 wkts in 17 games in 3 seasons of IPL as compare to thampi 12 innings 10 wickets. in one season Thats how u compare......bumrah had 3 yrs of learning tymal mills doesnt have gr8 stats Edited May 10, 2017 by Ankit_sharma03 maniac, nevada and express bowling 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ankit_sharma03 Posted May 10, 2017 Share Posted May 10, 2017 4 minutes ago, Cricketics said: Most commentators are already impressed with him, in parrticular overseas ones. They know he can be the deal. Every top bowler in the world has gotten smacked in t20s and in IPl also like Steyn, Johnson etc. So Thampi is still the newbie dude who will learn. He is already trying different variations like slow ones etc, i just felt he tried a bit too muvh at times, but this is what experience from this year bring to his bowling. He did fine this year, yes not great but he has done enough. Like i said, in t20s, every random bowler goes for runs, from greatest to the worst. even indian commentators are, they hardly get excited about pace. He was called by team mnmgt to train with them.....what else does anyone need if National team is keeping an eye on him. They dnt call anybody n everybody 1st season look at the talent , from next we shud look at improvement express bowling 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Straight Drive Posted May 10, 2017 Share Posted May 10, 2017 ur comparing a bowler to a batsman...... T20 is not a easy format for bowlers Also if u check their Fc record....both have played double the game means a season more. It makes a huge diff Bumrah the yorker specialist had 11 wkts in 17 games in 3 seasons of IPL as compare to thampi 12 innings 10 wickets. in one season Thats how u compare......bumrah had 3 yrs of learning He has bowled crap. Imo 11 wickets in 12 matches at eco of 9 is rubbish. Will praise him when he takes as many wickets as strike bowler and chokes runs to acceptable level. But this IPL he has been a flop. Sent from my ASUS_Z00LD using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ultimate_Game Posted May 10, 2017 Share Posted May 10, 2017 2 minutes ago, Ankit_sharma03 said: ur comparing a bowler to a batsman...... T20 is not a easy format for bowlers Also if u check their Fc record....both have played double the game means a season more. It makes a huge diff Bumrah the yorker specialist had 11 wkts in 17 games in 3 seasons of IPL as compare to thampi 12 innings 10 wickets. in one season Thats how u compare......bumrah had 3 yrs of learning I wonder why such rationale and reasoning is not shown for Sandeep Apparently when he does well in IPL it's all "he was lucky" Lord 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
express bowling Posted May 10, 2017 Share Posted May 10, 2017 As McCullum pointed out in his tweet.... Thampi is already bowling all the difficult overs in his first IPL. His performance has to be assessed in this light. The fact that he is being entrusted 2 overs at the end in every match shows that the team managent has confidence in his death bowling. He is bowling indipping yorkers at 137 k to 143 k at will and has a good bouncer too. These are excellent skills to have. He will get better as he gains more experience. Most foreign commentators, and a couple of Indian ones, are very impresed with him. speedheat and tweaker 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Straight Drive Posted May 10, 2017 Share Posted May 10, 2017 Havent hyped Bumrah when he flopped. Sent from my ASUS_Z00LD using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ankit_sharma03 Posted May 10, 2017 Share Posted May 10, 2017 Just now, Ultimate_Game said: I wonder why such rationale and reasoning is not shown for Sandeep Apparently when he does well in IPL it's all "he was lucky" the same reason our team mngmt didnt call him, lacks what is required in modern day cricket. If selection starts to happen with only stats anyone can become a selector by going on cricinfo n checking stats.... U have to spot the right talent.......right talent is the one u feel will succeed at international level. Never said sandeep is lucky........always rated him most highly among trundlers. I was impressed with him but i feel the game has evolved and only swing wont work. Why do u think bhuvi worked on his skills....he realized only swing wont help him. msplash9, speedheat, express bowling and 2 others 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ankit_sharma03 Posted May 10, 2017 Share Posted May 10, 2017 Just now, Straight Drive said: Havent hyped Bumrah when he flopped. Sent from my ASUS_Z00LD using Tapatalk Shows u look at stats......rather u shud look at a talent MI always ahd good bowlers in reserve ......but why do u think they picked this rookie n started backing him. John wright said in an interview he had the attributes to be successful at international level Dhawal bowled so well last yr in IPL......where is he??? Anureet has done well one season....where is he We got back bhajji on basis of IPL and what happened. speedheat 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ultimate_Game Posted May 10, 2017 Share Posted May 10, 2017 (edited) 4 minutes ago, Ankit_sharma03 said: the same reason our team mngmt didnt call him, lacks what is required in modern day cricket. If selection starts to happen with only stats anyone can become a selector by going on cricinfo n checking stats.... U have to spot the right talent.......right talent is the one u feel will succeed at international level. Never said sandeep is lucky........always rated him most highly among trundlers. I was impressed with him but i feel the game has evolved and only swing wont work. Why do u think bhuvi worked on his skills....he realized only swing wont help him. Or maybe the same way Rayudu was called ahead of Jadhav or the same way Rahane has hung around in shorter formats forever Performance trumps feeling. As the saying goes "A bird in hand is worth two in the bush" If someone has performed at u-19 level, domestic level and even succeeded at IPL level, there's nothing which says the player will fail at intl level given the said player is only 23. And I guess you didn't watch Sandeep over the last few games where he had to bowl tough overs at the death and didn't rely on "swing". Edited May 10, 2017 by Ultimate_Game Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ankit_sharma03 Posted May 10, 2017 Share Posted May 10, 2017 4 minutes ago, express bowling said: As McCullum pointed out in his tweet.... Thampi is already bowling all the difficult overs in his first IPL. His performance has to be assessed in this light. The fact that he is being entrusted 2 overs at the end in every match shows that the team managent has confidence in his death bowling. He is bowling indipping yorkers at 137 k to 143 k at will and has a good bouncer too. These are excellent skills to have. He will get better as he gains more experience. Most foreign commentators, and a couple of Indian ones, are very impresed with him. Sad for him that reverse has gone out of LOI ....or else this guy wud have been lethal with his action using reverse swing tweaker 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maniac Posted May 10, 2017 Share Posted May 10, 2017 Thampi has had a bad game and yes he is inconsistent at times,but he has a lot more upside than a lot of crap we have seen. Can hit 140+,Good Yorker,shortball,variations,decent temperament that can only get better....tell me what more do you need in a young rookie? tweaker, express bowling and speedheat 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maniac Posted May 10, 2017 Share Posted May 10, 2017 2 minutes ago, Ultimate_Game said: Or maybe the same way Rayudu was called ahead of Jadhav or the same way Rahane has hung around in shorter formats forever Performance trumps feeling. As the saying goes "A bird in hand is worth two in the bush" If someone has performed at u-19 level, domestic level and even succeeded at IPL level, there's nothing which says the player will fail at intl level given the said player is only 23. And I guess you didn't watch Sandeep over the last few games where he had to bowl tough overs at the death and didn't rely on "swing". Thampi,Siraj,Kaul have a lot more upside than Sandeep. Just like Kuldeep has a lot more upside than say someone liek Axar who has probably bowled better than Kuldeep this tournament express bowling, speedheat and tweaker 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Straight Drive Posted May 10, 2017 Share Posted May 10, 2017 Shows u look at stats......rather u shud look at a talent MI always ahd good bowlers in reserve ......but why do u think they picked this rookie n started backing him. John wright said in an interview he had the attributes to be successful at international level Dhawal bowled so well last yr in IPL......where is he??? Anureet has done well one season....where is he We got back bhajji on basis of IPL and what happened. Yes, i am more interested in performance at top level. Efforts without performance at top level is usless imo.I will be the first one to praise him if he performs in next IPL. But no way at this point of time. Sent from my ASUS_Z00LD using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ultimate_Game Posted May 10, 2017 Share Posted May 10, 2017 Just now, maniac said: Thampi,Siraj,Kaul have a lot more upside than Sandeep. Yeah sure! Just like Aaron had and so many others I call it double standards and hypocrisy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ankit_sharma03 Posted May 10, 2017 Share Posted May 10, 2017 Just now, Ultimate_Game said: Or maybe the same way Rayudu was called ahead of Jadhav or the same way Rahane has hung around in shorter formats forever Performance trumps feeling. As the saying goes "A bird in hand is worth two in the bush" If someone has performed at u-19 level, domestic level and even succeeded at IPL level, there's nothing which says the player will fail at intl level given the said player is only 23. Rahane has the talent....but he hasnt soughted out his game in LOI. But talent is there There have been many who have done that......Again cricket has evolved. Sandeep might have done really well 2 wcs ago but now i doubt ....still can be given a chance on A-tours or t20...... Also one more example, people ridiculed hardik pandya last yr(which was bizzare)......but he had the talent, pace, bounce..... He went on A tour and worked on his length and look at the improvement As many gr8 of fast bowling will tell u.....pace cant be taught but control over line n length comes over the period of time ( dnt come up with examples like Aaron now ) When u have pace.....its not easy to have control. The line n length xamples we quote for our trundlers......well they dnt have pace so its easy to have control for them. Its not that bowlers are idiot and they dnt understand what is good line n length Mosher 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ankit_sharma03 Posted May 10, 2017 Share Posted May 10, 2017 1 minute ago, Ultimate_Game said: Yeah sure! Just like Aaron had and so many others I call it double standards and hypocrisy. Let me see how many of these will have the control if they are blessed with Aaron's pace Let me see how many of these will maintain rhythem once u go through injuries that Aaron go through. That pace takes a hell lot of tol on the body ......Not every body is same either . I call it lack of understanding...... Drive a veichle at 50k and then 120k ....ull knw where wud u have more control. Mosher, tweaker, speedheat and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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