maniac Posted May 11, 2017 Share Posted May 11, 2017 3 hours ago, Texan said: Left armer? My bad honest mistake but the point of Sandeep not being in any of that league/category still stands Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
speedheat Posted May 11, 2017 Share Posted May 11, 2017 So England opening bowling is Mills, Woakes,Stokes,Wood Aus with Starc,Hazelwood and Cummins Pak with Amir,Riaz and Hassan Ali Nzl with Boult,Southee'Mcleneghan,and Milne SA with Morkel,Rabada,Steyn,Morris Even WI with Gabriel, Joseph and Cummins with Holder and Brathwaite India with Sandeep Sharma in it....scary thought :hysterical: that is like going back in to stone age, riding "bail gadi" when the rest of the world is motoring along some super fast cars express bowling and maniac 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maniac Posted May 11, 2017 Share Posted May 11, 2017 1 minute ago, speedheat said: that is like going back in to stone age, riding "bail gadi" when the rest of the world is motoring along some super fast cars The most fearsome loi bowler in the world is Starc apparently out answer to that is Sandeep sharma speedheat 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maniac Posted May 11, 2017 Share Posted May 11, 2017 I am glad @Ultimate_Game Doesn't watch big bash...otherwise they would suggest Henriques replacing Mitchell Starc. even that wouldn't be such a bad idea as this...atleast Henriques can bat speedheat and express bowling 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
speedheat Posted May 11, 2017 Share Posted May 11, 2017 The most fearsome loi bowler in the world is Starc apparently out answer to that is Sandeep sharma :hysterical: even zhulan goswami bowls faster then sandip sharma lol express bowling 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
speedheat Posted May 11, 2017 Share Posted May 11, 2017 I am glad @Ultimate_Game Doesn't watch big bash...otherwise they would suggest Henriques replacing Mitchell Starc. even that wouldn't be such a bad idea as this...atleast Henriques can bat Waiting for his reply saying sandip is actually better then starc because he performed in IPL :hysterical: maniac and express bowling 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeautifulGame Posted May 11, 2017 Share Posted May 11, 2017 So England opening bowling is Mills, Woakes,Stokes,Wood Aus with Starc,Hazelwood and Cummins Pak with Amir,Riaz and Hassan Ali Nzl with Boult,Southee'Mcleneghan,and Milne SA with Morkel,Rabada,Steyn,Morris Even WI with Gabriel, Joseph and Cummins with Holder and Brathwaite India with Sandeep Sharma in it....scary thought England will open with David Wiley , a medium pacer who bowls rarely over 125 .They r leaving out a fast bowler like Finn for him.Mills only plays T20. As for Pakistan despite his pace Riaz is crap.You wanna pick bowlers like that? Pace and zero brain? Even Hassan in Australia (where Speed meters r spiked ) was bowling at best in 135k. Southee is a swing bowler who doesn't bowl in 140s either. Srilinaka Bangladesh and WI bowling r not even worth discussing.Have u seen eco of WI bowlers for ex? Only Aus and SA genuinely pick 140k attacks .If a thing our attack is the 3rd fastest in international cricket Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maniac Posted May 11, 2017 Share Posted May 11, 2017 5 minutes ago, BeautifulGame said: England will open with David Wiley , a medium pacer who bowls rarely over 125 .They r leaving out a fast bowler like Finn for him.Mills only plays T20. As for Pakistan despite his pace Riaz is crap.You wanna pick bowlers like that? Pace and zero brain? Even Hassan in Australia (where Speed meters r spiked ) was bowling at best in 135k. Southee is a swing bowler who doesn't bowl in 140s either. Srilinaka Bangladesh and WI bowling r not even worth discussing.Have u seen eco of WI bowlers for ex? Only Aus and SA genuinely pick 140k attacks .If a thing our attack is the 3rd fastest in international cricket David willey is an allrounder...he opens for his domestic team in LOIS...as I said there is a space for Anderson,Bravo or even Grandhomme type bowlers who can have a great spell in favorable conditions and bring much more to the team. a specialist bowler at 125k no thanks speedheat and Mosher 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
speedheat Posted May 11, 2017 Share Posted May 11, 2017 England will open with David Wiley , a medium pacer who bowls rarely over 125 .They r leaving out a fast bowler like Finn for him.Mills only plays T20. As for Pakistan despite his pace Riaz is crap.You wanna pick bowlers like that? Pace and zero brain? Even Hassan in Australia (where Speed meters r spiked ) was bowling at best in 135k. Southee is a swing bowler who doesn't bowl in 140s either. Srilinaka Bangladesh and WI bowling r not even worth discussing.Have u seen eco of WI bowlers for ex? Only Aus and SA genuinely pick 140k attacks .If a thing our attack is the 3rd fastest in international cricket Willey operates in an around 135k which is good also england has him because they believe in variation in attack which had 3 145k bowlers Hassan Ali has tremendously increased his pace he now operates around 140k with the fastest of 147k Southi can criss 140+ if he wants but prefers to stay around 135k to 135+ for swing which is perfectly fine SL and Bangladesh too hand at least 2 genuine quicks operating for them Chameera, kumara for sl and taskin and rubel for bd express bowling, Mosher and maniac 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeautifulGame Posted May 11, 2017 Share Posted May 11, 2017 David willey is an allrounder...he opens for his domestic team in LOIS...as I said there is a space for Anderson,Bravo or even Grandhomme type bowlers who can have a great spell in favorable conditions and bring much more to the team. a specialist bowler at 125k no thanks Everyone is an opener in English Domestics.Because they r obsessed with stupid pinch hitters . Swann was an opener for his domestic team.Doesnt mean he was picked as AR for England. Same with Wiley.He bats at 10 for England and definitely not picked as all rounder . The others u mentioned Anderson Bravo all bat in the top 6-7 for their team Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rkt.india Posted May 11, 2017 Share Posted May 11, 2017 (edited) 3 hours ago, BeautifulGame said: Everyone is an opener in English Domestics.Because they r obsessed with stupid pinch hitters . Swann was an opener for his domestic team.Doesnt mean he was picked as AR for England. Same with Wiley.He bats at 10 for England and definitely not picked as all rounder . The others u mentioned Anderson Bravo all bat in the top 6-7 for their team Willey is a left armer that is advantage and a big hitter down the order. a left armer bowling 130-135 isnt bad especially if he plays a lot of games in swing friendly England. Here are his speeds in first ODI against us. Quickest is around 87 mph which 140KPH. Edited May 11, 2017 by rkt.india speedheat 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cricketics Posted May 11, 2017 Share Posted May 11, 2017 On 5/9/2017 at 1:59 PM, Cricketics said: Are you guys watching what Snadeep and Mohit are doing at death? Bowling slow and putting variations. Low speeds but not fast, and they are winning it now for Punjab. This is better than no variations 140kS for t20s and LOI. Guys put this in your head, pace alone can't win you games, got o have variations and that 130k bowlers with excellent variations like Dwayne Bravo or Sandeep will win you more games in this format. Bump, Read this again, this is what I was talking about. Sandeep bowls another exception death over. He did his part, now onto other bowler to save the game. Great death bowling by Sandeep. Some accurate, not Phaaasht, but good variations by Sandeep, just what you need. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeautifulGame Posted May 11, 2017 Share Posted May 11, 2017 Sandeep has definitely improved his death bowling big time . Bowling 19th over on a motorway against Pollard just gives 7 runs .Really impressive stuff. Definitely wouldn't mind giving him a go in T20s. Lord and Ultimate_Game 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rasgulla Posted May 11, 2017 Share Posted May 11, 2017 Game changing over Proving again and again why he is better than Brainless hack Umesh Yadav Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CG Posted May 11, 2017 Share Posted May 11, 2017 Mohit and Sandeep went over 10 r.p.o where as Bumrah at 6.Just shows the diff in class. express bowling 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ultimate_Game Posted May 11, 2017 Author Share Posted May 11, 2017 2 minutes ago, CG said: Mohit and Sandeep went over 10 r.p.o where as Bumrah at 6.Just shows the diff in class. Sandeep was the 2nd best pacer today after Bumrah. Consistent with what I've maintained all along, i.e. in shorter formats Bumrah and Bhuvi are the only Indian seamers ahead of Sandeep. Has proven the same today He can bowl in PP and bowl tough overs at the death. Despite bowling an extra delivery coz of that bad wide call, conceded only 7 runs in 19th over. Quite impressive Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CG Posted May 11, 2017 Share Posted May 11, 2017 Sandeep was the 2nd best pacer today after Bumrah. Consistent with what I've maintained all along, i.e. in shorter formats Bumrah and Bhuvi are the only Indian seamers ahead of Sandeep. Has proven the same today He can bowl in PP and bowl tough overs at the death. Despite bowling an extra delivery coz of that bad wide call, conceded only 7 runs in 19th over. Quite impressive Going at 10 R.p.o is not impressive even in the t20. express bowling and speedheat 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Posted May 11, 2017 Share Posted May 11, 2017 5 minutes ago, CG said: Going at 10 R.p.o is not impressive even in the t20. It is when the team is going at over 12 for most innings also got crucial wicket of Pandya Ultimate_Game 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ultimate_Game Posted May 11, 2017 Author Share Posted May 11, 2017 7 minutes ago, CG said: Going at 10 R.p.o is not impressive even in the t20. Did you watch the match or even looked at bowling scorecards? The teams scored 230 and 223 respectively on that pitch and here are the bowling figures for the pacers... Bowling O M R W HH Pandya 2 0 29 MJ McClenaghan 4 0 54 JJ Bumrah 4 0 24 SL Malinga 4 0 45 Bowling O M R W Sandeep Sharma 4 0 42 MJ Henry 2 0 40 I Sharma 3 0 29 MM Sharma 4 0 57 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
express bowling Posted May 11, 2017 Share Posted May 11, 2017 (edited) 8 minutes ago, Lord said: It is when the team is going at over 12 for most innings also got crucial wicket of Pandya His team went at 11 runs per over where most other bowlers of his team are not that good. He went at 10.5 runs per over. His 4th over was very good but the other 3 were below average. Edited May 11, 2017 by express bowling Mosher 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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