Haarkarjeetgaye Posted July 7, 2017 Share Posted July 7, 2017 2 minutes ago, bleaf27 said: China is too huge unfortunately to be isolated. Their exports all over the world now cannot be competed against. Biggest problem with the world would be to contain China - US won't even be a threat anymore except millitarily but China does have a bully-ish nature and is focused on expanding Agree Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bleaf27 Posted July 7, 2017 Share Posted July 7, 2017 (edited) 4 minutes ago, Cricketics said: Regardless of how you may look at it, there is nothing big going to happen and most of it is all exaggeration in OP about War is coming etc. Well the "War" would be China will press more soldiers and they do have mucher higher infantry soldiers than us and try to push the Indian Army out of the area. If some soldiers sacrifice their lives then they will sit down and India understandably will back down. But a Chinese threat especially when they operate with a mindset of only their agenda and right now India is encroaching on their territory - is a basis for them to use milittary operation. Similar to Kargil when India used millitary approach , China is claiming the same at this point. Edited July 7, 2017 by bleaf27 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malcolm Merlyn Posted July 7, 2017 Share Posted July 7, 2017 Well the "War" would be China will press more soldiers and they do have mucher higher infantry soldiers than us and try to push the Indian Army out of the area. If some soldiers sacrifice their lives then they will sit down and India understandably will back down. But a Chinese threat especially when they operate with a mindset of only their agenda and right now India is encroaching on their territory - is a basis for them to use milittary operation. Similar to Kargil when India used millitary approach , China is claiming the same at this point. Do you know how many divisions can China deploy in Tibet?How many will they need to displace IA from their defensivr positions? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bleaf27 Posted July 7, 2017 Share Posted July 7, 2017 1 minute ago, Malcolm Merlyn said: Do you know how many divisions can China deploy in Tibet?How many will they need to displace IA from their defensivr positions? If you are asking me the exact number , No I wouldn't know But in Infantry comparison active number it is - Fir for Service , India has 489,600,000 vs China 619,000,000 . If it escalates to using attack helicopters , India has 16 , China has 206 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malcolm Merlyn Posted July 7, 2017 Share Posted July 7, 2017 If you are asking me the exact number , No I wouldn't know But in Infantry comparison active number it is - Fir for Service , India has 489,600,000 vs China 619,000,000 . If it escalates to using attack helicopters , India has 16 , China has 206 It doesnt happen like that. Here http://thediplomat.com/2017/07/chinas-creeping-invasion-of-india/ Read this.PLA will at the best get a stalemate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jalebi_bhai Posted July 7, 2017 Share Posted July 7, 2017 For all the dhoti shiverers on here: https://mobile.twitter.com/handle_anonymus/status/882960049131315200 My do paise on the issue: 1. At most, we will see a limited conflict on the eastern border. CCP and their media mouths are experts in big testicle talk. There will be more figurative bullets fired in the media (propaganda by both Chinis and Indian presstitutes) than at the border. GoI has played this really well so far, acting behind the scenes. Xi Jinping cannot afford a lose of face here. Things have escalated but I feel it is more to keep our forces and resources occupied on the Eastern front. The window for such theatrics will end around November when the Himalayan passes start getting filled with snow. 2. Where I can see some serious action happening is actually on our Western front. Pakjabis have started their silly fireworks shows already. If there will be major bloodshed, it will be on the Western front. As I've said above, the CCP ABSOLUTELY CANNOT suffer a loss of face here. There is a reason why they have Pakjabis as their allies and that is relatively cheap India-containment. Why incur losses of Chinese lives and expensive military equipment when you have an army of rabid puppies already frothing in the mouth to kill your common enemy? 3. If point 1. goes for a sixer, I have complete faith in our armed forces to hold their own. 62 was more than half a century ago, under a limpdick PM and a politicized army leadership. Since then, we've had Nathu & Cho La incidents as well as Operation Falcon. Witihin the next two-three years, we will have finally caught up in the upgrade of our armed forces. For CCP, it is mauke pe chauke time. mishra 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Haarkarjeetgaye Posted July 8, 2017 Share Posted July 8, 2017 https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/wonk/wp/2017/07/06/europe-and-japan-announce-trade-deal-to-rival-nafta/?utm_term=.e13718c06925 With abandonment of TPP , Mr Trump has handed Asian trade to China on a platter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zen Posted July 8, 2017 Share Posted July 8, 2017 (edited) Ind has to stand up for what it believes in, its interests and its friends The country has a sad history of letting things slip and not taking initiatives. Let's not repeat the mistakes made in Tibet. Ind has to be prepared and proactive As for the concerns of the OP, war is a big term. Both countries would want to avoid it. However, we should neither rule out battles, nor be afraid to get involved in tough situations. If Ind has to take China on, so be it Edited July 8, 2017 by zen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Haarkarjeetgaye Posted July 8, 2017 Share Posted July 8, 2017 China Issues travel alert to its citizens in India, to be careful while in India. valid for a month Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pakistan Posted July 9, 2017 Share Posted July 9, 2017 China will only go to war if they have no other option left. They prefer doing business above wasting money in fighting silly wars. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vilander Posted July 9, 2017 Share Posted July 9, 2017 On 7/7/2017 at 4:21 PM, Malcolm Merlyn said: Do you know how many divisions can China deploy in Tibet?How many will they need to displace IA from their defensivr positions? 61 of the 62 mountain passes in Himalayas is held by IA. China will need 50 times the land force of India to get through, it will be a blood bath and they know it. No **** will happen.. HemuChandra 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vilander Posted July 9, 2017 Share Posted July 9, 2017 China will fight India to the last pakistani. Scar, HemuChandra, randomGuy and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mishra Posted July 10, 2017 Share Posted July 10, 2017 (edited) http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/india/chinese-bhutanse-envoys-met-with-rahul-gandhi-congress/articleshow/59527522.cms Rahul Baba met Chinese envoy and Bhutanese to broker peace between them. Seriously, Can he not be booked on charges of sedition? Atleast RAW should pick him in for questioning. Least, If GoI wasnt taken in confidence before this meeting, he should be forced to divulge details of his discussion under caution. Edited July 10, 2017 by mishra Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
randomGuy Posted July 10, 2017 Share Posted July 10, 2017 On 09/07/2017 at 9:45 AM, Vilander said: China will fight India to the last pakistani. well said. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
diga Posted July 10, 2017 Share Posted July 10, 2017 1 hour ago, mishra said: http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/india/chinese-bhutanse-envoys-met-with-rahul-gandhi-congress/articleshow/59527522.cms Rahul Baba met Chinese envoy and Bhutanese to broker peace between them. Seriously, Can he not be booked on charges of sedition? Atleast RAW should pick him in for questioning. Least, If GoI wasnt taken in confidence before this meeting, he should be forced to divulge details of his discussion under caution. Pappu & Realpolitik... may be a 5 year old can understand string theory Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bleaf27 Posted July 10, 2017 Share Posted July 10, 2017 On 7/9/2017 at 0:13 AM, Vilander said: 61 of the 62 mountain passes in Himalayas is held by IA. China will need 50 times the land force of India to get through, it will be a blood bath and they know it. No **** will happen.. Link ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FischerTal Posted July 10, 2017 Share Posted July 10, 2017 just sell the nuclear tipped brahmos to vietnam. there is ample proof that chinese gave nuclear technology to pakistan. being the nice guy will get you nowhere. the vietnamese are born fighters, all they need is the right equipment and china will go back into its hole. xi jinping wants to carve his own legacy as an expansionist vis-a-vis american presidents like Andrew Jackson.... its not going to happen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Haarkarjeetgaye Posted July 15, 2017 Share Posted July 15, 2017 Mehbooba met Kadi Ninda and told that China has started interfering in Kashmir... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Haarkarjeetgaye Posted July 18, 2017 Share Posted July 18, 2017 http://realtime.rediff.com/news/india/China-unusually-aggressive-in-Doka-La-FS-to-House-panel/dd1f3c1ce165d55d Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zen Posted July 18, 2017 Share Posted July 18, 2017 Ind should eventually strategize to achieve the following: China is minus Tibet Pak is no longer in existence Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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