putrevus Posted December 19, 2017 Share Posted December 19, 2017 1 minute ago, rkt.india said: and the problem until we try new bowlers, answer will always be yes. They tried Aniket Chaudhary in warmup against BD, he picked a 4-fer and never and is then forgotten. we are in dire need of a left armer and Aniket is good. he is 6'4" tall, swings the ball at good pace but they are so reluctant to play new pacers at home. when Shami got injured, they got back Umesh who struggled in the previous game. Instead should have picked either Bumrah or some other newcomer like Chaudhary or Saini. See you don't just try new players for the sake of trying, who is Aniket going to replace. If he is forgotten it is his fault, now a days especially for fast bowler if he has pace and is accurate there are so many avenues. Bumrah should have been tried against SL that I told during the series too. but I don't agree that you just give a test cap to guy like Aniket . Link to comment
rkt.india Posted December 19, 2017 Share Posted December 19, 2017 10 minutes ago, putrevus said: See you don't just try new players for the sake of trying, who is Aniket going to replace. If he is forgotten it is his fault, now a days especially for fast bowler if he has pace and is accurate there are so many avenues. Bumrah should have been tried against SL that I told during the series too. but I don't agree that you just give a test cap to guy like Aniket . why? Aniket is an experienced FC cricketer and was called for bowling in the nets to practice for Starc before Aus test series. He is not as quick as Starc but as tall and whatever i saw of him, he has been good. He is the kind of left arm pacer we need overseas. you build a fast bowling pool for overseas and not at home. We need guys who can succeed overseas. Indian fast bowlers who have success at home wont succeed overseas because recipe for success are different at home and overseas. Indian fast bowlers who succeed overseas wont succeed at home. Until we differentiate this, we will not get consistent success overseas. Link to comment
Vijy Posted December 19, 2017 Share Posted December 19, 2017 1 minute ago, rkt.india said: why? Aniket is an experienced FC cricketer and was called for bowling in the nets to practice for Starc before Aus test series. He is not as quick as Starc but as tall and whatever i saw of him, he has been good. He is the kind of left arm pacer we need overseas. you build a fast bowling pool for overseas and not at home. We need guys who can succeed overseas. Indian fast bowlers who have success at home wont succeed overseas because recipe for success are different at home and overseas. Indian fast bowlers who succeed overseas wont succeed at home. Until we differentiate this, we will not get consistent success overseas. Why is a left-arm pacer a necessity to win overseas? The best bowlers should be selected for the conditions, regardless of whether they are left, right or ambidextrous. The Oz attack of the 90s-00s and WI attack of 70s-80s did not have any world-class left-arm pace bowlers. Link to comment
Yantra Posted December 19, 2017 Share Posted December 19, 2017 How is Mithun bowling these days? seems to have picked up lots of wickets and put on some good muscle weight. Link to comment
rkt.india Posted December 19, 2017 Share Posted December 19, 2017 8 minutes ago, Vijy said: Why is a left-arm pacer a necessity to win overseas? The best bowlers should be selected for the conditions, regardless of whether they are left, right or ambidextrous. The Oz attack of the 90s-00s and WI attack of 70s-80s did not have any world-class left-arm pace bowlers. it is not a necessity but if you have a good left armer on domestic why not try him. Link to comment
express bowling Posted December 19, 2017 Share Posted December 19, 2017 33 minutes ago, putrevus said: 18 members is bit too much for 3 test tour.I think he is better of playing Ranjis. Ranji will be over by January 2 The Indian team has asked for 4 extra pace bowlers anyway Link to comment
Vijy Posted December 19, 2017 Share Posted December 19, 2017 (edited) 3 minutes ago, rkt.india said: it is not a necessity but if you have a good left armer on domestic why not try him. if he's among the best 3-4 in country for the conditions in SA/Eng/Oz, then he should play. Edited December 19, 2017 by Vijy Link to comment
beetle Posted December 19, 2017 Share Posted December 19, 2017 5 hours ago, rkt.india said: most others are inexperienced or yet to make debut. difficult to play so many rookies. we only have these 4-5 bowlers playing tests in last 4-5 years. we could have even given Aniket Chaudhary a go in a test or two. May be he did not impress when he bowled in the nets. He also did not impress kohli in ipl. Being called for nets can be double edged. Link to comment
rkt.india Posted December 19, 2017 Share Posted December 19, 2017 (edited) 2 minutes ago, beetle said: May be he did not impress when he bowled in the nets. He also did not impress kohli in ipl. Being called for nets can be double edged. he did impress Kohli that is why he picked him for IPL. He was not a T20 bowler anyway. had not played many T20s and one days even in domestic. Edited December 19, 2017 by rkt.india Link to comment
beetle Posted December 19, 2017 Share Posted December 19, 2017 1 minute ago, rkt.india said: he did impress Kohli that is why he picked him for IPL. He was not a T20 bowler anyway. had not played many T20s and one days even in domestic. The net bowling happened after ipl ????or before? Link to comment
jusarrived Posted December 19, 2017 Share Posted December 19, 2017 Can sense Kar choking here again in KO's . Link to comment
rkt.india Posted December 19, 2017 Share Posted December 19, 2017 19 minutes ago, beetle said: The net bowling happened after ipl ????or before? before IPL. He went to India nets twice, once when we played against NZ and then when we played against Aus. Link to comment
express bowling Posted December 19, 2017 Share Posted December 19, 2017 19 minutes ago, beetle said: The net bowling happened after ipl ????or before? Before IPL ruined Aniket C This is why it is important to choose a youngster in the format he is strong in. Link to comment
beetle Posted December 19, 2017 Share Posted December 19, 2017 (edited) Go dilli Go Pant Get the trophy !!! Edited December 19, 2017 by beetle Link to comment
Vilander Posted December 20, 2017 Share Posted December 20, 2017 11 hours ago, putrevus said: Hazelwood , Starc and Cummins are all 6'5' nope Hazelwood is 6'5 starc is shorter than him and Cummins is shorter than both atleast an inch between each. Amoung the Indian ones Aniket looks pretty tall must be easy 6'4 if starc is 6'5 Ishant is 6'10 lol. Link to comment
rkt.india Posted December 20, 2017 Share Posted December 20, 2017 5 minutes ago, Vilander said: nope Hazelwood is 6'5 starc is shorter than him and Cummins is shorter than both atleast an inch between each. Amoung the Indian ones Aniket looks pretty tall must be easy 6'4 if starc is 6'5 Ishant is 6'10 lol. Hazlewood and Starc both are 6'4 Link to comment
Vilander Posted December 20, 2017 Share Posted December 20, 2017 15 minutes ago, rkt.india said: Hazlewood and Starc both are 6'4 may be weak 6'4 just pushing 6'3 and a bit..Ishant clearly has atleast 2-3 inches on starc and Ishant is legit 6'5 and a bit more( max 6'6 not more). but the point is they are not super tall guys and many local Indian bowlers are pushing that height , i know Aniket is tall, not too sure about others. So one of these lads who can hit mid 140's and is super accurate can do as good a job basically. Link to comment
rkt.india Posted December 20, 2017 Share Posted December 20, 2017 (edited) 22 minutes ago, Vilander said: may be weak 6'4 just pushing 6'3 and a bit..Ishant clearly has atleast 2-3 inches on starc and Ishant is legit 6'5 and a bit more( max 6'6 not more). but the point is they are not super tall guys and many local Indian bowlers are pushing that height , i know Aniket is tall, not too sure about others. So one of these lads who can hit mid 140's and is super accurate can do as good a job basically. Rajpoot is 6'3". Dhruv pratap Singh rookie from UP is similar. Ishan Porel is around 6'3-4 Edited December 20, 2017 by rkt.india Link to comment
rkt.india Posted December 20, 2017 Share Posted December 20, 2017 (edited) Vidarbha's leading crawling toward 200. Wish they had Lalit Yadav. With him in the side, they could have given a better challenge to Karnataka batsmen. Quote Vidarbha have already lost their strike bowler Lalit Yadav due to a hamstring injury. They have Rajneesh Gurbani, who has played just 8 matches, and Siddhesh Neral, who made his First-Class debut this season and has played only three matches. https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/sports/cricket/india-domestic/ranji-trophy/indian-team-management-to-take-final-call-on-umesh-participation-for-vidarbha/articleshow/62092169.cms Edited December 20, 2017 by rkt.india Link to comment
Mosher Posted December 20, 2017 Share Posted December 20, 2017 198 the target for Karnataka. Good innings from Sarwate. This will be an interesting chase if Vidarbha can get some early wickets. express bowling 1 Link to comment
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