Domestic Cricket Ranji Trophy 2017/18

[vishalvirsingh]

2 hours ago, chapetmarunga said:

Chandela looks good

he left a lot of balls..has good temparament but definitely not worth playing for INDIA.

[express bowling]

7 hours ago, rkt.india said:

We need bowlers like Saini for SA and Aus who are on taller side and hit that good length often at good pace.

 

I was thinking the same

 

We need someone like Saini in SA who will bowl those top of off stump deliveries repeatedly at pace

 

He looks like a different bowler  .... now that he has added extra pace with his existing accuracy

 

But, how to get him in now !

 

What is his height ?    Around 6'0" perhaps 

Edited December 18, 2017 by express bowling

[express bowling]

6 minutes ago, vishalvirsingh said:

shammi was between 133 to 142k and average not menacing..was comfortably bowling.

 

 

Shami was not bowling with intensity, except his last 3 overs when he bowled some nasty deliveries

 

Smart thing to do before SA, but should have bowled more accurately

[eternalhope]

9 hours ago, renjith said:

Wobbly seam (not all over the place) is used for seam movement. Steady seam will produce swing. If you notice the seam position of bowlers like srinath, philander you can see that.

Wait for just another gem coming out of the know all resident expert.

[Vijy]

4 minutes ago, express bowling said:

 

I was thinking the same

 

We need someone like Saini in SA who will bowl those top of off deliveries repeatedly at pace

 

He looks like a different bowler  .... now that he has added extra pace with his existing accuracy

 

What is his height ?    Around 6'0" perhaps 

I  thought I read somewhere he was 6'1. maybe I'm mistaken.

[fineleg]

55 minutes ago, express bowling said:

 

We need someone like Saini in SA who will bowl those top of off deliveries repeatedly at pace

But, how to get him in now !

There is NO WAY to get him in now. Barring, if Ishant Sharma's niggle makes him skip the tour. But he is only resting and I.S. will go to SA, so there is absolutely no way for Saini, maximum he can go as net bowler after Delhi finals gets done.

But you need to remember that Kohli only likes experienced players, so pecking order for playing 11 will be Shami, Bhuvi, Ishant Sharma, Umesh Yadav, Bumrah and then only any others.

Edited December 18, 2017 by fineleg

[express bowling]

6 minutes ago, fineleg said:

But you need to remember that Kohli only likes experienced players, so pecking order for playing 11 will be Shami, Bhuvi, Ishant Sharma, Umesh Yadav, Bumrah and then only any others.

 

That is actually true for test matches, and a problem.

[putrevus]

I don't think you can play Saini just like that in tests, I don't care how well he bowls in Ranji.England is still there , they are taking the best team to SA.

 

England also took their best team , Stokes not be available is Stokes's fault. If India gets beaten in SA  it is because SA is better and not because we had taken wrong players.

[Vijy]

24 minutes ago, putrevus said:

I don't think you can play Saini just like that in tests, I don't care how well he bowls in Ranji.England is still there , they are taking the best team to SA.

 

England also took their best team , Stokes not be available is Stokes's fault. If India gets beaten in SA  it is because SA is better and not because we had taken wrong players.

although it's true one pacer will not make a diff if the gap is "large", it's still important to select right players for right conditions. btw, I am not advocating for his inclusion or exclusion since I have not seen enough of him to make any call.

[putrevus]

1 minute ago, Vijy said:

although it's true one pacer will not make a diff if the gap is "large", it's still important to select right players for right conditions. btw, I am not advocating for his inclusion or exclusion since I have not seen enough of him to make any call.

I do think they are taking the best 17, will they select best 11 is a different story but that will be on captain and not on selectors.

[King Tendulkar]

9 hours ago, rkt.india said:

We need bowlers like Saini for SA and Aus who are on taller side and hit that good length often at good pace.

Ishant sharma 

[express bowling]

11 minutes ago, King Tendulkar said:

Ishant sharma 

 

He bowls too many  " can be left alone " deliveries.

[fineleg]

by the way, why is shami looking so average versus gambhir and chandila?

[Vijy]

50 minutes ago, fineleg said:

by the way, why is shami looking so average versus gambhir and chandila?

doesn't seem at full fitness to me. besides, gauti is not the force he was but he's still a very good domestic bat.

[cowboysfan]

I think we need to seriously consider sitting Umesh Yadav,he has poor for a long time now,ideal bowling conditions and he barely made a mark,i would rather see what we have in bumrah but he hasnt played ranjis either.

[rkt.india]

9 hours ago, express bowling said:

 

I was thinking the same

 

We need someone like Saini in SA who will bowl those top of off stump deliveries repeatedly at pace

 

He looks like a different bowler  .... now that he has added extra pace with his existing accuracy

 

But, how to get him in now !

 

What is his height ?    Around 6'0" perhaps 

Yes around 6 but the important thing is his high arm action which gives extra bounce too and accuracy.

[rkt.india]

3 hours ago, fineleg said:

by the way, why is shami looking so average versus gambhir and chandila?

Very flat pitch

[renjith]

11 hours ago, eternalhope said:

Wait for just another gem coming out of the know all resident expert.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Off_cutter

"The calling card of this delivery, for the batsman to read it in advance, is the typical wobble in the seam after ball release with the seam slanting predominantly towards the batsman. A simple way for a beginner to learn to bowl cutters is to try imparting strong back-spin to the ball by pulling down on the seam at the time of release while keeping the seam vertical."

 

http://www.espn.in/cricket/story/_/id/17190493/james-anderson-holds-forth-swing-bowling

"But I was a better, more experienced bowler on that trip, with better plans. I'd sort of learnt how to wobble the ball, so I could nip it off the seam rather than just rely on swing."

 

Edited December 19, 2017 by renjith

[rkt.india]

9 hours ago, putrevus said:

I don't think you can play Saini just like that in tests, I don't care how well he bowls in Ranji.England is still there , they are taking the best team to SA.

 

England also took their best team , Stokes not be available is Stokes's fault. If India gets beaten in SA  it is because SA is better and not because we had taken wrong players.

In England, you need swing bowlers. Saini's bowling will suite SA pitches more than England. Regarding playing him in tests. we played Sreesanth, Munaf overseas after just two tests at home and he is far more experienced than them as he has toured SA recently with India A team and did reasonably well on rather slower pitches they got to play on. 

[express bowling]

22 hours ago, SK_IH said:

all the fans watching,please notify when pant comes to bat,thanks in advance   

Pant batting now