Kohli's chances of beating SRT's 1998 record year

[putrevus]

13 minutes ago, Austin 3:!6 said:

Eh?
Sachin scored 2 centuries against Aust in Aust at the age of 18. The innings that he played in Perth as a teenager against attack of that quality in that pitch is better than any test innings Kohli ever played.
 
 

I am talking about Odis , he has one hundred against Australia in Australia.

You are talking tests.

 

The legendary Perth innings you are talking about was great because it was played by an 18 year old batsman not because it was scored against a great bowling attack.
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Edited September 6, 2017 by putrevus

[rkt.india]

7 minutes ago, Austin 3:!6 said:

Eh?

Sachin scored 2 centuries against Aust in Aust at the age of 18. The innings that he played in Perth as a teenager against attack of that quality in that pitch is better than any test innings Kohli ever played.

 

 

in tests. here we are talking about ODIs.  

Edited September 6, 2017 by rkt.india

[Nonbeliever]

The thing is that even the likes of Karun nair(300), Manish pandey(100 in aus), kedar kadhav(100 against eng) all out classed the king in the same match even when they were very new.  Cricke is too easy now.

[rkt.india]

4 hours ago, Nonbeliever said:

The thing is that even the likes of Karun nair(300), Manish pandey(100 in aus), kedar kadhav(100 against eng) all out classed the king in the same match even when they were very new.  Cricke is too easy now.

Cricketers are better now. This is the reality.

[express bowling]

5 hours ago, Nonbeliever said:

  Cricket is too easy now.

 

Every era has its own difficulties.

 

The biggest difficulty of this era is juggling 3 formats and constantly shifting from one format to another.  It requires a lot mental adjustments and technique adjustments. 

 

Bad habits creep in much faster too after the influx of T20s and runs increasing in ODIs.  The number of dot balls in LOIs these days is very low.  This entails a lot pokes outside the off-stump, lots of chips in vacant spaces etc.   Come test matches, it becomes very difficult to get rid of these bad habits.  Only those, who can constantly rectify their mistakes, survive these days.

 

Another difficulty faced by Indian players these days, after the IPL started, is not getting to play county cricket and not having sufficient chances to develop their ability of playing swing.

 

There is so much cricket going on now, there is hardly any gap between 2 series / tournaments and it requires tremendous physical fitness. There is no time to go back to the drawing board after failures.

 

 

 

 

[Nonbeliever]

39 minutes ago, rkt.india said:

Cricketers are better now. This is the reality.

Yes thats true.  Suddenly the lankan team is prime example.

[Nonbeliever]

7 minutes ago, express bowling said:

 

Every era has its own difficulties.

 

The biggest difficulty of this era is juggling 3 formats and constantly shifting from one format to another.  It requires a lot mental adjustments and technique adjustments. 

 

Bad habits creep in much faster too after the influx of T20s and runs increasing in ODIs.  The number of dot balls in LOIs these days is very low.  This entails a lot pokes outside the off-stump, lots of chips in vacant spaces etc.   Come test matches, it becomes very difficult to get rid of these bad habits.  Only those, who can constantly rectify their mistakes, survive these days.

 

Another difficulty faced by Indian players these days, after the IPL started, is not getting to play county cricket and not having sufficient chances to develop their ability of playing swing.

 

There is so much cricket going on now, there is hardly any gap between 2 series / tournaments and it requires tremendous physical fitness. There is no time to go back to the drawing board after failures.

 

 

 

 

That's why good bowlers are not playing consistently.  Good pace bowlers are getting injured regularly leaving the bowling attack toothless.

[express bowling]

21 minutes ago, Nonbeliever said:

That's why good bowlers are not playing consistently.  Good pace bowlers are getting injured regularly leaving the bowling attack toothless.

 

Good bowlers generally play most test matches and important LOI tournaments.  They are rotated and rested in some bilateral LOI series.  We are seeing this with Shami, Steyn, Philander, Broad, Anderson, Ashwin, Jadeja, Hazlewood, Starc, Boult, Yasir, Morkel  etc.

 

Also, specialist LOI bowlers are developing, who may not be as big names as the top test bowlers, but are performing really well in LOIs.  Like Bumrah, Malinga, Badree, Narine, Hasan Ali etc.

 

 

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[putrevus]

How many matches did Sachin play against great bowling attacks. He hardly played against Pakistan and same thing he played against Walsh and Ambrose in one series.Most Australian sides which Sachin played in India had Michael Kasprowicz. He played one full series against Mcgrath in Australia.

 

It is not like Sachin was playing 1980s WI bowling attacks and Kohli is feasting on poor attacks.Sachin may or may not be the best ODI player in everybody eyes but Kohli is best chaser in everybody eyes.We all saw how well whole fab four coped up against Shane Bond in 2003 series.

 

You don't have degrade Kohli in order to make Sachin look better. Even Kohli would agree Sachin was better batsman.Sachin would also admit Kohli is much more calmer and can take pressure far better than himself there by winning more matches for his team.

[Vilander]

On 04/09/2017 at 4:44 AM, Gollum said:

That record will be broken by someone, if not by Kohli this year someone else will break it in the coming years, who knows someone may double the tally in the future. ODI batting stats have become meaningless now, but common public will live in a delusional world. In their minds Kohli is already a bigger player then SRT. To those of us who watched cricket religiously in the 90s, it will be a heartbreaking moment even if another Indian takes the record. I am privileged to have watched most of Sachin's runs in 1998 and no other batsman has given me that much of joy after that. 

No, not for all but for you. And why so. Even if its another Indian lol ?

[Nonbeliever]

8 minutes ago, putrevus said:

How many matches did Sachin play against great bowling attacks. He hardly played against Pakistan and same thing he played against Walsh and Ambrose in one series.Most Australian sides which Sachin played in India had Michael Kasprowicz. He played one full series against Mcgrath in Australia.

 

It is not like Sachin was playing 1980s WI bowling attacks and Kohli is feasting on poor attacks.Sachin may or may not be the best ODI player in everybody eyes but Kohli is best chaser in everybody eyes.We all saw how well whole fab four coped up against Shane Bond in 2003 series.

 

You don't have degrade Kohli in order to make Sachin look better. Even Kohli would agree Sachin was better batsman.Sachin would also admit Kohli is much more calmer and can take pressure far better than himself there by winning more matches for his team.

Looks like started. Watching cricket after 2003.

[putrevus]

1 minute ago, Nonbeliever said:

Looks like started. Watching cricket after 2003.

You have anything else???

 

Don't give me this fable stories that sachin somehow faced greatest bowling attacks and came up goods.It took 4 trips for Sachin to score an ODI hundred against Australia in Australia. That should say it all.

 

 

 

 

[Ankit_sharma03]

7 minutes ago, putrevus said:

You have anything else???

 

Don't give me this fable stories that sachin somehow faced greatest bowling attacks and came up goods.It took 4 trips for Sachin to score an ODI hundred against Australia in Australia. That should say it all.

 

 

 

 

It also took Kohli flattest of the decks to score a ODI 100 in Aus

[putrevus]

21 minutes ago, Ankit_sharma03 said:

It also took Kohli flattest of the decks to score a ODI 100 in Aus

You mean to say  pitches were juicy in 2003 when Aussies scored 350 plus in cb series . I did not see any 100s from Sachin then.

[Ankit_sharma03]

2 minutes ago, putrevus said:

You mean to say  pitches were juicy in 2003 when Aussies scored 350 plus in cb series . I did not see any 100s from Sachin then.

They were not this flat , those pitches had something for bowlers. These were absolute graveyard

[narenpande1]

The so called GOAT barely averages in early 30's outside subcontinental comfort in AWAY matches. 88 of them. Sample size enough 

 

http://stats.espncricinfo.com/ci/engine/player/35320.html?class=2;filter=advanced;home_or_away=2;opposition=1;opposition=2;opposition=3;opposition=4;opposition=5;orderby=default;template=results;type=batting

 

 

 

 

[putrevus]

19 minutes ago, Ankit_sharma03 said:

They were not this flat , those pitches had something for bowlers. These were absolute graveyard

What were those pitches in 2003 where Indians were racking 500 and 700 plus scores in tests in 2003 were they juicy pitches. They played odis on same sort of pitches and they were without Warne and Mcgrath.

 

[Ankit_sharma03]

18 minutes ago, putrevus said:

What were those pitches in 2003 where Indians were racking 500 and 700 plus scores in tests in 2003 were they juicy pitches. They played odis on same sort of pitches and they were without Warne and Mcgrath.

 

They were without mcgrath n warne yet they had gillespie n lee............and that aussie team had one factor that none of the team had .....they had a fear factor which was an advantage before they setp on the field

 

Are u serious , are u really comparing those pitches and those bowlers to last years tour of patta n avg aussie team. those were good Odi wkts with some help acc to venue

Last tour all wkts were absolute patta even the perth one, in 2003 perth game our whole team was blown away . 

 

Didnt tendulkar score runs in that series.........

[putrevus]

2 minutes ago, Ankit_sharma03 said:

They were without mcgrath n warne yet they had gillespie n lee............and that aussie team had one factor that none of the team had .....they had a fear factor which was an advantage before they setp on the field

 

Are u serious , are u really comparing those pitches and those bowlers to last years tour of patta n avg aussie team. those were good Odi wkts with some help acc to venue

Last tour all wkts were absolute patta even the perth one, in 2003 perth game our whole team was blown away . 

 

Didnt tendulkar score runs in that series.........

So you mean to say Kohli can score only on Patta pitches??? 

 

Kohli bullied Johnson who terrorized English batsmen just the season before.

Edited September 6, 2017 by putrevus

[Ankit_sharma03]

2 minutes ago, putrevus said:

So you mean to say Kohli can score only on Patta pitches??? 

 

Kohli bullied Johnson who terrorized English batsmen just the season before.

Yaar ye news reporter wali bakwaas to mere saath kiya na karo, maine jo kaha nhin wo matalb mat nikalo

 

I have never said that kohli can only score on patta

 

Ur started with nonsense that it took sachin 4 trips to make a 100 in odi in aus, well have u seen that era team and he made so many scores around 100 so that 80-85 doesnt matter and that remaning 10-15 matter

 

They both played n damn diff conditions and diff opposition , seriously as someone said u started watching cricket after 2003 well bullshit u started after 2011 most probably. U have no idea about the aussie team of that time and those aussie pitches. Several articles have been written about but ur to lazy to even read them 

 

Do urself  favour and do some research 

 

http://www.cricket.com.au/news/justin-langer-flat-pitches-waca-western-australia-coach-sheffield-shield/2015-11-16

http://www.espncricinfo.com/australia-v-india-2015-16/content/story/964877.html

http://www.espncricinfo.com/blogs/content/story/820483.html

http://www.firstpost.com/firstcricket/sports-news/flat-tracks-galore-cricket-australia-admit-pitches-need-to-offer-more-to-the-bowlers-2594472.html

 

 

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