So who are we taking as 5th seamer in the squad to SA? Dont tell me Pandya

[King Tendulkar]

1 minute ago, Cricketics said:

If they don’t pick Bumrah then it has to be Aaron. Varun Aaron. I can see him getting Amla out caught behind.

 

 

How did Aaron get on in recent match

[Cricketics]

Just now, King Tendulkar said:

Cricinfo reckons the 3 above are contenders . Apparently they seriously considering picking bumrah but he not played fc game for yonks so negative 

 

they shoudl pick him for 3rd test . Have a look , so obvious thing to do . Rest yadav 

Take Yadav but rest him for first test, yes. Shami will break down any way and won’t give us all three tests so we can then use Yadav

[Cricketics]

2 minutes ago, King Tendulkar said:

How did Aaron get on in recent match

He is bowling fast, troubled lot of batsman from 7 overs which I saw him bowl. I don’t need to watch all his overs to judgr him now. Now he needs to face guys like Amla and co so he can work them out. He really needs to play for India because at that pace not many are bowling or matching him.  

[King Tendulkar]

Big fan of aaron and criminal not been part of Indian set up . Could have come on leaps and bounds 

 

but he won’t be on plane . But if was 5th bowler who was carrying drinks but impressed in nets / warm up games might make kohli / shastri think . 

[cowboysfan]

I just read an article on cricinfo that  BCCI is thinking of taking Bumrah to the SA tour,i am not totally against it but he hasnt played ranjis for over a year.

Edited November 27, 2017 by cowboysfan

[Sooda]

The whole thing is so poorly planned

 

If Bumrah was going to be in contention for SA- and it is right that he is, he should have played vs SL and for that I think he should have played some Ranji games first. I get that he needs rest after lots of LOI cricket, that should have happened before.

 

It will be unfair to chuck him in at the deep end vs SL in the 3rd test on the back of no FC cricket for so long, but it has to be done- will be even worse to take him to SA with little to no long format cricket for so long. 

 

Perhaps get him AND Saini and Thakur all playing the 3rd test vs SL...!!

 

 

 

[rkt.india]

7 hours ago, Cricketics said:

He is bowling fast, troubled lot of batsman from 7 overs which I saw him bowl. I don’t need to watch all his overs to judgr him now. Now he needs to face guys like Amla and co so he can work them out. He really needs to play for India because at that pace not many are bowling or matching him.  

he had Amla clean bowled the last test he played that got washed out and he was then suddenly forgotten.

[The Dark Horse]

Aaron is way too wayward. Has he improved on his accuracy?

[rkt.india]

8 hours ago, King Tendulkar said:

Looks like 5 specialist pacers plus pandya going 

 

so with ishant , yadav , bk and shami locked in . Another slot is there 

 

bumrah , thakur and navdeep  saini are the contenders apparently 

Thakur to be honest is not a test material as of now. He lacks stamina to sustain intensity. You dont want a short height bowler bowl 130-135 after 10 overs in a test who is not even accurate enough.

[Cricketics]

26 minutes ago, rkt.india said:

he had Amla clean bowled the last test he played that got washed out and he was then suddenly forgotten.

Yes, he is the best option we have. I will take him to England also. If Bumrah isn’t oicked, Aaron is must. 

[Lannister]

Why can not it be Pandya? 3 seamers + one backup option + Pandya. Too many options will only create confusions and it's hard to assess players performance. Give them a full series and reasses if they are worthy enough to persist with. 

[Cricketics]

10 minutes ago, The Dark Horse said:

Aaron is way too wayward. Has he improved on his accuracy?

He has, now how he does in international depends on the kind of hard work he puts in there. But he is a hard worker who hasn’t dropped pace at all. He is running in smoothly and looking as if he is fully back to his best. Someone with such speed shouldn’t be ignored in the next 10 test matches as we are playing next year pretty much everything away from India and he has the ability to use the bounce there. 

[Cricketics]

6 minutes ago, Lannister said:

Why can not it be Pandya? 3 seamers + one backup option + Pandya. Too many options will only create confusions and it's hard to assess players performance. Give them a full series and reasses if they are worthy enough to persist with. 

We can give Pandya full series in India but if he fails in the first test we can not give him full series in South Africa then. Pandya is there to bring the balance. If his bowling is decent and he can score runs, the he does the job of bringing the balance. But if he fails miserably in the first test in both the department and India loses, then we must sit him out for the 2nd test. This doesn’t mean that we are dropping him forever, just that for time being, and for the team to come back in the test series, we have to go defensive and try a better batsman as option or an extra bowler depending ok what is the requirement. It is fair enough deal and he can be given chance again thenon English tour. 

[Vijy]

4 minutes ago, Cricketics said:

He has, now how he does in international depends on the kind of hard work he puts in there. But he is a hard worker who hasn’t dropped pace at all. He is running in smoothly and looking as if he is fully back to his best. Someone with such speed shouldn’t be ignored in the next 10 test matches as we are playing next year pretty much everything away from India and he has the ability to use the bounce there. 

what about his tendency to get injured often? even if he were picked (highly unlikely), I doubt if he can play the full season without breaking down.

[Cricketics]

1 minute ago, Vijy said:

what about his tendency to get injured often? even if he were picked (highly unlikely), I doubt if he can play the full season without breaking down.

If we start thinking that way, there is a risk for every player starting with Shami to KL Rahul to Vijay .  We have to go with what we have. Right now Aaron has been back for a while from injury and bowling for Jharkhand. We must olay when guys like Shami are fit and available. Similarly, ae shouldn’t worry what will happen 6 months from now and if a particular player will be fit or not. 

[Lannister]

5 minutes ago, Cricketics said:

We can give Pandya full series in India but if he fails in the first test we can not give him full series in South Africa then. Pandya is there to bring the balance. If his bowling is decent and he can score runs, the he does the job of bringing the balance. But if he fails miserably in the first test in both the department and India loses, then we must sit him out for the 2nd test. This doesn’t mean that we are dropping him forever, just that for time being, and for the team to come back in the test series, we have to go defensive and try a better batsman as option or an extra bowler depending ok what is the requirement. It is fair enough deal and he can be given chance again thenon English tour. 

So what if Pujara or even Kohli for that matter fails miserably in the first test. Do you also insist in replacing them? Pandya has been backed for this very reason so that believing he will bring that balance in overseas tours. Dropping him on the basis of just one test will be immature. Besides we will be having 4 other seamers. 

[Cricketics]

4 minutes ago, Lannister said:

So what if Pujara or even Kohli for that matter fails miserably in the first test. Do you also insist in replacing them? Pandya has been backed for this very reason so that believing he will bring that balance in overseas tours. Dropping him on the basis of just one test will be immature. Besides we will be having 4 other seamers. 

No, I won’t replace Pujara, Kohli, Rahane or Vijay if they all fail in first test. That is because they are proven performers in Test cricket and Pandya isn’t yet in test cricket.

 

Pandya, if he can’t deliver with both bat and ball then he is not only hurting our batting but also our bowling. He is there to provide support to the bowler but if he isn’t working well, then two departments are getting hurt so then we are better of playing two spinners or play 4 seamers in the 2nd test- Shami-Bumrah-Bhuvi-Umesh 

 

Again overseas is a place to give chances but not to keep trying. We are not discarding Pandya if he fails in the first test, but only keeping him out for time being, all that is only if he fails to deliver in both the departments. Like I said, he should be persisted with for future but we should look to do whats the best for the team during the start of the 2nd test 

 

 

[BeautifulGame]

It will be Umesh Ishant Shami Bhuvi and Takur .

[rkt.india]

7 minutes ago, BeautifulGame said:

It will be Umesh Ishant Shami Bhuvi and Takur .

Thakur is injured

[Cricketics]

Just now, rkt.india said:

Thakur is injured

Anyways we don’t need him for Test. He is better of getting picked for LOIs than test.