Ankit_sharma03 Posted November 26, 2017 Share Posted November 26, 2017 5 hours ago, Sooda said: He took 4/57 whilst NZ made 340 odd i think in the second tour match I have not seen him bowl for a while, but it's not just his BP XI wkts- wasn't he second highest wicket taker in the IPL , can't dismiss all of that as fluke. Last yr it was dhawal and he has been smashed ever since Trundlers like munaf, anureet andw few others have done well in past IPL......... Also didnt unadkat went to zimb and got smashed and his speeds were awfull Simple u either have it or dnt, unadkat doesnt have it for international level Link to comment
rkt.india Posted November 26, 2017 Share Posted November 26, 2017 2 hours ago, vvvslaxman said: India needs to groom a left arm seamer. There are three options Aniket, Sangwan who is recovering and khejroliya who is a rookie Link to comment
vvvslaxman Posted November 26, 2017 Share Posted November 26, 2017 1 minute ago, rkt.india said: There are three options Aniket, Sangwan who is recovering and khejroliya who is a rookie At one point we had like Zaheer, Irfan, RP Singh, Nehra. Suddenly nobody is there except Unadkat. We had this guy Netravalkar playing for U-19. Whatever happened to him. RP singh was damn good when he was in rythm. Both in England and SA world T20. Link to comment
SUMO Posted November 26, 2017 Share Posted November 26, 2017 Tests are not for rest or experimenting. Playing one test for country is prestigious even after playing 100 tests. ATG aussie team never gave rest to ponting hayden gilli etc even against utter minnow bangladesh. Link to comment
SUMO Posted November 26, 2017 Share Posted November 26, 2017 Just now, SUMO said: Tests are not for rest or experimenting. Playing one test for country is prestigious even after playing 100 tests. ATG aussie team never gave rest to ponting hayden gilli etc even against utter minnow bangladesh. Virat should play 3rd test then rest for LOIs. Link to comment
vvvslaxman Posted November 26, 2017 Share Posted November 26, 2017 2 minutes ago, SUMO said: Tests are not for rest or experimenting. Playing one test for country is prestigious even after playing 100 tests. ATG aussie team never gave rest to ponting hayden gilli etc even against utter minnow bangladesh. Play the fittest players. And if they are not fit try someone with potential. After all two rookies were the ones who shaped India's first ever series win in Pakistan. IRfan and Balaji. Irfan helped with Perth test. RP singh helped us win England series. Link to comment
rkt.india Posted November 26, 2017 Share Posted November 26, 2017 40 minutes ago, vvvslaxman said: At one point we had like Zaheer, Irfan, RP Singh, Nehra. Suddenly nobody is there except Unadkat. We had this guy Netravalkar playing for U-19. Whatever happened to him. RP singh was damn good when he was in rythm. Both in England and SA world T20. He was a trundler 125kph Link to comment
vvvslaxman Posted November 26, 2017 Share Posted November 26, 2017 (edited) 3 minutes ago, rkt.india said: He was a trundler 125kph But loved his action and nice shape he was getting. Sandeep was getting banana inswingers. Netravalkar had a nice action. With bit more pace he could have gone somewhere. Actually Unadkat was clocking 139 in the same U19 match Netravalkar played. Then Unadkat became a trundler. Edited November 26, 2017 by vvvslaxman Link to comment
Cricketics Posted November 26, 2017 Share Posted November 26, 2017 9 hours ago, Sooda said: Yeah kinda agree about Nitesh instead of Manish but it makes that T20 team very inexperienced. Manish SR in T20 isn't spectacular but he has been consistent in IPL and has a century, merits consideration as someone who can anchor. Think it's a bit soon for Gill and even Shaw let them play at least two more fc seasons. They need to have totally understood their games and ironed out flaws with state and A team matches. Thakor can be in line for ODI team I do understand it making little inexperience side but we have to make these bold steps. May be we can have Rohit just for that serious to keep little experience for the t20 team and all youngsters around him. I think if the series was against Australia or South Africa, I would say its soon. But Lanka is here playing with mediocre bowling line up, and its no harm in trying Gill sometime now. Link to comment
Cricketics Posted November 26, 2017 Share Posted November 26, 2017 1 hour ago, vvvslaxman said: At one point we had like Zaheer, Irfan, RP Singh, Nehra. Suddenly nobody is there except Unadkat. We had this guy Netravalkar playing for U-19. Whatever happened to him. RP singh was damn good when he was in rythm. Both in England and SA world T20. Netravalkar plays here in USA. He moved to USA to do masters and was playing college cricket here and now is most likely going to play for USA in few years provided he has completed his time to be allowed to pay for USA. Netravalkar is also a decent batsman. Link to comment
Cricketics Posted November 26, 2017 Share Posted November 26, 2017 22 minutes ago, rkt.india said: He was a trundler 125kph You are talking about when he was young. He had increased his pace later in last 3-4 years. Link to comment
Sooda Posted November 26, 2017 Author Share Posted November 26, 2017 (edited) I totally forgot about K Jadhav ODIS Mayank Agarwal, Shreyas Iyer, Manish Pandey, M S Dhoni, Kedar Jadhav, Rishab Pant, Krunal Pandya(?)/Deepak Hooda, Kuldeep Yadav, Y Chahal, Ankit Rajpoot, M Siraj Thampi, Axar, Sanju Samson, D Kartik, Shankar Edited November 26, 2017 by Sooda Link to comment
putrevus Posted November 27, 2017 Share Posted November 27, 2017 (edited) You don't gift India test caps just to try out new faces. Indian cap needs to be earned. Edited November 27, 2017 by putrevus Link to comment
rkt.india Posted November 27, 2017 Share Posted November 27, 2017 22 minutes ago, putrevus said: You don't gift India test caps just to try out new faces. Indian cap needs to be earned. so who asking giving test cap to rookies. There are players who are consistently performing. Navdeep Saini is averaging 23 in FC cricket. Also, pacers need to be selected on horses basis. Like of Shamis and Umesh Yadavs are not suited to SA conditions. There wont be much reverse, you would need bowlers who bowl in right areas when there is little from conditions. Link to comment
putrevus Posted November 27, 2017 Share Posted November 27, 2017 1 minute ago, rkt.india said: so who asking giving test cap to rookies. There are players who are consistently performing. Navdeep Saini is averaging 23 in FC cricket. Also, pacers need to be selected on horses basis. Like of Shamis and Umesh Yadavs are not suited to SA conditions. There wont be much reverse, you would need bowlers who bowl in right areas when there is little from conditions. I don't think it works like that, Shami and Yadav have earned their place to SA.If they fail there then on next tours others guys can come in. Vinay Kumar was also averaging very impressive in FC but we all know how well he can bowl.While having good average is important but it shouldn't be main reason for selection.Saini is 25 yr old so he is no spring chicken.When Siraj can be selected in T20s, why is this guy left out?? You are going to sink or swim with Yadav, Shami , Bhuvi and Ishant in SA. Link to comment
rkt.india Posted November 27, 2017 Share Posted November 27, 2017 34 minutes ago, putrevus said: I don't think it works like that, Shami and Yadav have earned their place to SA.If they fail there then on next tours others guys can come in. Vinay Kumar was also averaging very impressive in FC but we all know how well he can bowl.While having good average is important but it shouldn't be main reason for selection.Saini is 25 yr old so he is no spring chicken.When Siraj can be selected in T20s, why is this guy left out?? You are going to sink or swim with Yadav, Shami , Bhuvi and Ishant in SA. Saini toured with India A to SA and did well. Has enough FC experience too. Link to comment
Cricketics Posted November 27, 2017 Share Posted November 27, 2017 15 hours ago, rkt.india said: so who asking giving test cap to rookies. There are players who are consistently performing. Navdeep Saini is averaging 23 in FC cricket. Also, pacers need to be selected on horses basis. Like of Shamis and Umesh Yadavs are not suited to SA conditions. There wont be much reverse, you would need bowlers who bowl in right areas when there is little from conditions. Shami is not suited for SA tracks so you don’t want to play him? He is the best bowler in India and we have to take him and it's not that Shami doesn’t bowl in the right areas, he always does and that is how you get wickets and become a good bowler. He doesn’t rely on reverse alone. express bowling 1 Link to comment
rkt.india Posted November 28, 2017 Share Posted November 28, 2017 8 hours ago, Cricketics said: Shami is not suited for SA tracks so you don’t want to play him? He is the best bowler in India and we have to take him and its not that Shami doesn’t bowl in the right area, he always does and that is hownyou get wickets wnd become a good bowler. He doesn’t rely on recerse alone. he is yet to prove that. On last away tour leg, he was average at best. Link to comment
Cricketics Posted November 28, 2017 Share Posted November 28, 2017 29 minutes ago, rkt.india said: he is yet to prove that. On last away tour leg, he was average at best. That's fine, but not having him in test is just ridiculous suggestion. Kohli is yet to prove in England too doesn't mean we should not play him there. Shami if fit must start everywhere we play. express bowling 1 Link to comment
rkt.india Posted November 28, 2017 Share Posted November 28, 2017 5 minutes ago, Cricketics said: That's fine, but not having him in test is just ridiculous suggestion. Kohli is yet to prove in England too doesn't mean we should not play him there. Shami if fit must start everywhere we play. Kohli only failed in England and did well on every other tour. Shami struggled everywhere with stamina and consistency. He was horrible in England when everyone was expecting him to become our spearhead. He was okay in SA. Did well in NZ in patches. Link to comment
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