vvvslaxman Posted November 6, 2018 Share Posted November 6, 2018 Just now, Nikola said: Good stat but sixes don't matter alot in end. Maybe yes in t20s and to some extent in odis. But yeah thing to appreciate about him is he is able to avg 60 with such risky batting and hitting sixes every now & then. His sixes are mega sixes usually. His acceleration is very much needed since we don't have that many reliable late order accelerators now. Link to comment
Nikola Posted November 6, 2018 Share Posted November 6, 2018 1 minute ago, vvvslaxman said: His sixes are mega sixes usually. His acceleration is very much needed since we don't have that many reliable late order accelerators now. Agree it's needed specially when we need to score big (330-350+) and even kohli don't have gears like him so other than him we don't have someone who can score quickly at any stage of cricket. KL Rahul can be tried but idk if he will do good at #4 in odis. Link to comment
WeStMiDz Posted November 6, 2018 Share Posted November 6, 2018 (edited) Nasser Hussain called it a while ago. Rohit is already an all time great white ball cricket batsman. Edited November 6, 2018 by WeStMiDz Stan AF 1 Link to comment
SUMO Posted November 7, 2018 Share Posted November 7, 2018 Before his 32nd bday and entering WC2019, his stats may read like 200 inn 8500 runs, avg ~50, strike rate 90 25 100s. Thats insane even if you ignore initial 6 years failure. Link to comment
Temujin Khaghan Posted November 7, 2018 Share Posted November 7, 2018 also 2nd best ODI batsman after Virat Kohli... Link to comment
Stan AF Posted November 7, 2018 Share Posted November 7, 2018 39 minutes ago, SUMO said: Before his 32nd bday and entering WC2019, his stats may read like 200 inn 8500 runs, avg ~50, strike rate 90 25 100s. Thats insane even if you ignore initial 6 years failure. 12 games(ODI) to go (Aus - 3; NZ -5 and again Aus - 5) . bit of a reach but sure lets see. Link to comment
SUMO Posted November 7, 2018 Share Posted November 7, 2018 52 minutes ago, Stan AF said: 12 games(ODI) to go (Aus - 3; NZ -5 and again Aus - 5) . bit of a reach but sure lets see. And there is 3 odi home series against zim bwfore IPL I guess. Link to comment
raki05 Posted November 7, 2018 Share Posted November 7, 2018 On 7/13/2018 at 2:00 AM, WeStMiDz said: Should be dropped. Offers nothing to the team. One of the worst batsmen India has ever produced. Ya and replace him with winning mentality players who has recently won a major trophy. Link to comment
putrevus Posted November 7, 2018 Share Posted November 7, 2018 (edited) Some people were laughing when I said Rohit Sharma is all ready better than any Indian opener bar Sachin and is on his way of becoming ATG opener. What he and Kohli are doing look easy but it is not easy to have those numbers. Edited November 7, 2018 by putrevus Link to comment
Adi BB Posted November 7, 2018 Share Posted November 7, 2018 Rohit has this knack of hitting sixes of any length and any time regardless of situation .this is a great habit and others should try to inculcate Stan AF 1 Link to comment
Adi BB Posted November 7, 2018 Share Posted November 7, 2018 46 minutes ago, putrevus said: Some people were laughing when I said Rohit Sharma is all ready better than any Indian opener bar Sachin and is on his way of becoming ATG opener. What he and Kohli are doing look easy but it is not easy to have those numbers. No he is not .don't get fooled by this era of flat tracks ,small boundaries,2 new ball ,low quality bowlers .ambrose,walsh,mcgrath,bracken,vaas,akram,Donald,pollock,bond type of bowlers will eat rohit for breakfast ,lunch and dinner.rohit is poor against left arm pacers and he is lucky to not have faced much of them in his career. Rohit is a great in this era but he will clearly struggle in even a bit of difficult condition and against good attack as he clearly showed in saf. And you will be the first one here to jump on his failures when he will in such conditions Laaloo 1 Link to comment
putrevus Posted November 7, 2018 Share Posted November 7, 2018 2 minutes ago, Adi BB said: No he is not .don't get fooled by this era of flat tracks ,small boundaries,2 new ball ,low quality bowlers .ambrose,walsh,mcgrath,bracken,vaas,akram,Donald,pollock,bond type of bowlers will eat rohit for breakfast ,lunch and dinner.rohit is poor against left arm pacers and he is lucky to not have faced much of them in his career. Rohit is a great in this era but he will clearly struggle in even a bit of difficult condition and against good attack as he clearly showed in saf. And you will be the first one here to jump on his failures when he will in such conditions I don't think so he is very good in odis and he will do well against any bowler in any era. What are you talking he scored a hundred in SAF in last series. He will struggle against swing but which opener in history did not struggle against swing, Adam Gilchrist, Sanath Jayasurya, or you name any opener other than Sachin.He is better than all those people. Yes he took a long time to get his bearing right but once he became an opener he has become a beast and I don't think he is afraid of pace and bounce. Link to comment
Adi BB Posted November 7, 2018 Share Posted November 7, 2018 6 minutes ago, putrevus said: I don't think so he is very good in odis and he will do well against any bowler in any era. What are you talking he scored a hundred in SAF in last series. He will struggle against swing but which opener in history did not struggle against swing, Adam Gilchrist, Sanath Jayasurya, or you name any opener other than Sachin.He is better than all those people. Yes he took a long time to get his bearing right but once he became an opener he has become a beast and I don't think he is afraid of pace and bounce. He is very good against pace and bounce no denying but he just doesn't have the technique or foot movement to counter against seam movement or seam (same for many batsmen).He is better than gilchrist and jayasurya but even they are not ATG as pure odi batsmen (they were ATG total package ) he is a great odi player in this era but not an ATG for me ,just my opinion . Link to comment
putrevus Posted November 7, 2018 Share Posted November 7, 2018 7 minutes ago, Adi BB said: He is very good against pace and bounce no denying but he just doesn't have the technique or foot movement to counter against seam movement or seam (same for many batsmen).He is better than gilchrist and jayasurya but even they are not ATG as pure odi batsmen (they were ATG total package ) he is a great odi player in this era but not an ATG for me ,just my opinion . Did Jayasurya or Gilichrist have any techniques.They did very well against all those bowlers you mentioned, don't overrate bowlers of other generations. If they bowled in this era their figures would have been different too. Rohit is one of best odi openers ever to have played this game. I am not taking about his test batting don't mix both of them. I don't see any other odi opener who has his ability to play big innings and who has his ability to change gears. Link to comment
Adi BB Posted November 7, 2018 Share Posted November 7, 2018 16 minutes ago, putrevus said: Did Jayasurya or Gilichrist have any techniques.They did very well against all those bowlers you mentioned, don't overrate bowlers of other generations. If they bowled in this era their figures would have been different too. Rohit is one of best odi openers ever to have played this game. I am not taking about his test batting don't mix both of them. I don't see any other odi opener who has his ability to play big innings and who has his ability to change gears. No they didn't do well against those bowlers ,it's your wrong perceptions ,check their records against those bowlers . Let's agree to disagree ,for me rohit is not an ATG in odis Link to comment
putrevus Posted November 7, 2018 Share Posted November 7, 2018 8 minutes ago, Adi BB said: No they didn't do well against those bowlers ,it's your wrong perceptions ,check their records against those bowlers . Let's agree to disagree ,for me rohit is not an ATG in odis Search youtube videos on what Wasim and Waqar have said about Jayasurya. They don't have average high or score every match against those bowlers to be called great. If that is the case we can analyse even one of the greatest batsmen like Sachin and find loopholes. Other than those two I don't see anyone else who can be called great odi openers from 1990s to 2000s. Link to comment
Nikola Posted November 7, 2018 Share Posted November 7, 2018 1 hour ago, Adi BB said: He is very good against pace and bounce no denying but he just doesn't have the technique or foot movement to counter against seam movement or seam (same for many batsmen).He is better than gilchrist and jayasurya but even they are not ATG as pure odi batsmen (they were ATG total package ) he is a great odi player in this era but not an ATG for me ,just my opinion . Lol at people hyping old era batsman as they had great technique against swing and were able to play any bowler. See their stats against same bowler you mentioned in other post and they will have pathetic avg against them. Even sachin's avg against ATG bowler isn't great so stop calling him ATG batsman? Also if current era batsman are getting easy pitches then same apply to kohli who has creamed many soft runs in limited over cricket so stop calling him limited over ATG as well? Link to comment
putrevus Posted November 7, 2018 Share Posted November 7, 2018 If Kohli is an ATG then Rohit is not far behind in ODIs, he has improved his consistency a lot. He has over taken Dhawan a country mile.He is the best opener among current players and I don't see any other opener in history other than Sachin coming close to what this guy has already achieved. Link to comment
Nikola Posted November 7, 2018 Share Posted November 7, 2018 (edited) 50 minutes ago, putrevus said: Search youtube videos on what Wasim and Waqar have said about Jayasurya. They don't have average high or score every match against those bowlers to be called great. If that is the case we can analyse even one of the greatest batsmen like Sachin and find loopholes. Other than those two I don't see anyone else who can be called great odi openers from 1990s to 2000s. Jayasurya's dismissal in odis. Edited November 7, 2018 by Nikola Link to comment
putrevus Posted November 7, 2018 Share Posted November 7, 2018 24 minutes ago, Nikola said: Jayasurya's dismissal in odis. What is your point? Link to comment
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