express bowling Posted May 8, 2018 Share Posted May 8, 2018 Gavaskar raises a very valid point here. Any person who was blindly opposed to the IPL earlier and went out of his way to criticize it ... later on wants to become a part of it in whatever capacity ... needs to be shown the mirror. It is immaterial whether that person is white, brown or purple. Gavaskar has many weaknesses himself and needs to be queried about them too. But that does not mean that all the issues he raises are bad. maniac and TheWall 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beetle Posted May 9, 2018 Share Posted May 9, 2018 (edited) Gavaskar is living in the past. The younger lot do not have a colonial mindset because they are from a different time. Young Indian who are no names get to play while big international names get benched.He big heroes of ipl are mostly Indians. We should feel proud that some international ex players are insecure about kohli playing in county. They have their reasons to oppose but it shows how much Indian cricket and beating Indian team means to them. Now if he has the guts to talk about some bcci arse licking,then we will call him tough nuts. How about starting with some mumbai lobby arse licking?? Edited May 9, 2018 by beetle Gollum and vvvslaxman 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rkt.india Posted May 9, 2018 Share Posted May 9, 2018 9 hours ago, express bowling said: Gavaskar raises a very valid point here. Any person who was blindly opposed to the IPL earlier and went out of his way to criticize it ... later on wants to become a part of it in whatever capacity ... needs to be shown the mirror. It is immaterial whether that person is white, brown or purple. Gavaskar has many weaknesses himself and needs to be queried about them too. But that does not mean that all the issues he raises are bad. him joining IPL means he has already seen the mirror. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rkt.india Posted May 9, 2018 Share Posted May 9, 2018 On 5/7/2018 at 4:43 PM, G_B_ said: fully agree with sunny g in this instance Lloyd has been always hyper critical of the IPL when it was in ITV4... as soon as his paymasters have the rights to the IPL its all so good. Now I actually enjoy Lloyd as a commentator. He does bring colour to the commentary team. But there are others like Michael Vaughn who were always supportive of the IPL (though critical of certain aspects) who would have made a better choice. Vaughn is already commentating Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beetle Posted May 9, 2018 Share Posted May 9, 2018 (edited) As for anti ipl people getting to have a commentary stint..well they seem to be good.A welcome break from sunny and manju's blatently biased commentary.It looks like territorial fight.ipl is Indian territory. Indian commentators have ruled and now the territory is being shared. Is that hurting sunnyji? Well,that is easy to remedy...just stop the bias and be bold enough to call out what needs to be called out. Edited May 9, 2018 by beetle Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vvvslaxman Posted May 9, 2018 Share Posted May 9, 2018 1 minute ago, rkt.india said: him joining IPL means he has already seen the mirror. True lol He was not exactly a fan of IPL either. To be honest many were not. Holding is no white. He is still a critic of IPL. Soon i can expect him to join in the IPL. They are both part of the same hypocrisy lol. Mud slinging one is like muslinging himself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garuda Posted May 9, 2018 Share Posted May 9, 2018 42 minutes ago, beetle said: Gavaskar is living in the past. The younger lot do not have a colonial mindset because they are from a different time. Young Indian who are no names get to play while big international names get benched.He big heroes of ipl are mostly Indians. We should feel proud that some international ex players are insecure about kohli playing in county. They have their reasons to oppose but it shows how much Indian cricket and beating Indian team means to them. Now if he has the guts to talk about some bcci arse licking,then we will call him tough nuts. How about starting with some mumbai lobby arse licking?? You have criticized me for using bad language. I'm showing the mirror to you. Aap ek bharatiya naari hein. Yeh wala shabdhen aapko shobha nahi badathi Peshust and beetle 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
express bowling Posted May 9, 2018 Share Posted May 9, 2018 35 minutes ago, Garuda said: Aap ek bharatiya naari hein. Yeh wala shabdhen aapko shobha nahi badathi This is 2018. Stop having separate rules for women ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yoda Posted May 9, 2018 Share Posted May 9, 2018 (edited) Forget about Gavaskar and brown vs white thing. Question still remains to be answered. Guys like Bumble, Clarke, Nasser who loathed the IPL, why did they chose to come over? Is it the money or change of heart or both? Inquiring minds would like to know. Edited May 9, 2018 by yoda LORD_analyst, Under_Score and express bowling 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
express bowling Posted May 9, 2018 Share Posted May 9, 2018 1 hour ago, rkt.india said: him joining IPL means he has already seen the mirror. Not necessarily. Politics is more complex. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
express bowling Posted May 9, 2018 Share Posted May 9, 2018 1 minute ago, yoda said: Forget about Gavasar and brown vs white thing. Question still remains to be answered. Guys like Bumble, Clarke, Nasser who loathed the IPL, why did they chose to come over? Is it the money or change of heart or both? Inquiring minds would like to know. Exactly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garuda Posted May 9, 2018 Share Posted May 9, 2018 4 minutes ago, express bowling said: This is 2018. Stop having separate rules for women ! Read my first two sentences the ones you havent included Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
express bowling Posted May 9, 2018 Share Posted May 9, 2018 (edited) 6 minutes ago, Garuda said: Read my first two sentences the ones you havent included I have. Criticize foul language by all means ... but it is immaterial whether that person is a man or a woman. Edited May 9, 2018 by express bowling Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garuda Posted May 9, 2018 Share Posted May 9, 2018 6 minutes ago, express bowling said: I have. Criticize foul language by all means ... but it is immaterial whether that person is a man or a woman. You sir are a feminist. You get the Gloria Steinem award for being the most feminist man in the world Peshust 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
express bowling Posted May 9, 2018 Share Posted May 9, 2018 1 minute ago, Garuda said: You sir are a feminist. You get the Gloria Steinem award for being the most feminist man in the world I am a normal 2018 man. You, sir, are living in the 1970s. beetle 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
express bowling Posted May 9, 2018 Share Posted May 9, 2018 4 minutes ago, MultiB48 said: Any intelligent self respecting woman would love to have separate rules and privileges for herself .Who would want to be clubbed alongside hairy sweaty men let alone be dominated by them ,not even men. Let every individual choose what they want ... as long as they are abiding by the law. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LORD_analyst Posted May 9, 2018 Author Share Posted May 9, 2018 1 hour ago, yoda said: Forget about Gavaskar and brown vs white thing. Question still remains to be answered. Guys like Bumble, Clarke, Nasser who loathed the IPL, why did they chose to come over? Is it the money or change of heart or both? Inquiring minds would like to know. exactly....people are not getting the point here....bumble criticized ipl many times earlier. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
express bowling Posted May 9, 2018 Share Posted May 9, 2018 1 hour ago, MultiB48 said: sounds reasonable but aren't laws there to be broken .Slavery was legal once ,how many law giver and their commandments have come and gone. Laws will evolve and improve as society progresses. That is the way to go. The main thing in a progressive society is to have a situation which provides equal opportunities to all, irrespective of race or gender. This would mean similar responsibilities too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sachinism Posted May 9, 2018 Share Posted May 9, 2018 Weird Indian mindset. "These people must love everything about India to earn a living here" No! Many parts of India and Indian culture are beyond sh!t and must be called out. Everyone who has a skill or in the case of ex-cricketers, mass-appeal they have a right to earning a living. beetle and velu 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beetle Posted May 9, 2018 Share Posted May 9, 2018 1 hour ago, Sachinism said: Weird Indian mindset. "These people must love everything about India to earn a living here" Exactly. People have no problems going to western counties to earn a living but constantly criticize western culture . This is the same . They may not like ipl but will come and make a living. Turning_track and vvvslaxman 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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