Our batting in SENA

[zen]

Manjrekar's hype came crashing down in 90s .... though he was considered technically good 

 

Kambli faded away .... he had weakness against bouncers .... though in Indian / subcon conditions he knew how to get big 100s

 

New guys - Dravid, Ganguly and Laxman were drafted 

Edited August 3, 2018 by zen

[kira]

1 minute ago, zen said:

90s .... Just SENA .... No WI

 

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Player	Span	Mat	Inns	NO	Runs	HS	Ave	BF	SR	100	50	0	4s	6s
R Dravid	1996-1999	9	17	2	849	190	56.60	1990	42.66	3	3	1	111	0
SC Ganguly	1996-1999	9	17	1	833	136	52.06	1649	50.51	3	3	1	115	7
SR Tendulkar	1990-1999	26	44	3	2111	177	51.48	3913	53.94	9	7	3	275	7
RJ Shastri	1990-1992	9	15	0	695	206	46.33	1955	35.54	3	0	0	70	3
M Azharuddin	1990-1999	24	39	1	1461	192	38.44	2158	67.70	6	3	1	192	3
PK Amre	1992-1993	4	6	1	169	103	33.80	529	31.94	1	0	0	18	0
M Prabhakar	1990-1993	15	25	3	703	95	31.95	1689	41.62	0	6	2	77	0
PL Mhambrey	1996-1996	2	3	1	58	28	29.00	111	52.25	0	0	0	8	0
N Kapil Dev	1990-1994	16	24	1	660	129	28.69	934	70.66	2	2	3	81	12
HH Kanitkar	1999-1999	1	2	0	56	45	28.00	99	56.56	0	0	0	6	0
KS More	1990-1993	13	19	2	471	73	27.70	1205	39.08	0	5	1	52	0
SV Manjrekar	1990-1996	18	31	3	738	93	26.35	2027	36.40	0	3	1	76	1
AS Wassan	1990-1990	4	5	1	94	53	23.50	133	70.67	0	1	1	9	0
DB Vengsarkar	1990-1992	10	16	0	363	54	22.68	944	38.45	0	3	2	31	0
WV Raman	1990-1997	6	11	1	219	96	21.90	545	40.18	0	2	4	27	1
NS Sidhu	1990-1999	10	17	0	365	98	21.47	797	45.79	0	2	3	36	5
S Ramesh	1999-1999	2	4	1	60	28	20.00	147	40.81	0	0	0	3	0

90s should include windies

[express bowling]

5 minutes ago, zen said:

90s .... Just SENA .... No WI

 

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Player	Span	Mat	Inns	NO	Runs	HS	Ave	BF	SR	100	50	0	4s	6s
R Dravid	1996-1999	9	17	2	849	190	56.60	1990	42.66	3	3	1	111	0
SC Ganguly	1996-1999	9	17	1	833	136	52.06	1649	50.51	3	3	1	115	7
SR Tendulkar	1990-1999	26	44	3	2111	177	51.48	3913	53.94	9	7	3	275	7
RJ Shastri	1990-1992	9	15	0	695	206	46.33	1955	35.54	3	0	0	70	3
M Azharuddin	1990-1999	24	39	1	1461	192	38.44	2158	67.70	6	3	1	192	3
PK Amre	1992-1993	4	6	1	169	103	33.80	529	31.94	1	0	0	18	0
M Prabhakar	1990-1993	15	25	3	703	95	31.95	1689	41.62	0	6	2	77	0
PL Mhambrey	1996-1996	2	3	1	58	28	29.00	111	52.25	0	0	0	8	0
N Kapil Dev	1990-1994	16	24	1	660	129	28.69	934	70.66	2	2	3	81	12
HH Kanitkar	1999-1999	1	2	0	56	45	28.00	99	56.56	0	0	0	6	0
KS More	1990-1993	13	19	2	471	73	27.70	1205	39.08	0	5	1	52	0
SV Manjrekar	1990-1996	18	31	3	738	93	26.35	2027	36.40	0	3	1	76	1
AS Wassan	1990-1990	4	5	1	94	53	23.50	133	70.67	0	1	1	9	0
DB Vengsarkar	1990-1992	10	16	0	363	54	22.68	944	38.45	0	3	2	31	0
WV Raman	1990-1997	6	11	1	219	96	21.90	545	40.18	0	2	4	27	1
NS Sidhu	1990-1999	10	17	0	365	98	21.47	797	45.79	0	2	3	36	5
S Ramesh	1999-1999	2	4	1	60	28	20.00	147	40.81	0	0	0	3	0

 

In the 90s,   WI  bowling was strong and England very weak.

 

It should be SWAN

Edited August 3, 2018 by express bowling

[zen]

3 minutes ago, kira said:

90s should include windies

There is one posted earlier w/ WI - http://www.indiancricketfans.com/forums/topic/108892-our-batting-in-sena/?do=findComment&comment=3718093 

[zen]

1 minute ago, express bowling said:

 

In the 90s,   WI  bowling was strong snd England very weak.

 

It should be SWAN

SWAN 

 

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Player	Span	Mat	Inns	NO	Runs	HS	Ave	BF	SR	100	50	0	4s	6s
R Dravid	1996-1999	12	21	4	1022	190	60.11	2690	37.99	3	5	1	125	1
SR Tendulkar	1990-1999	25	40	3	1727	169	46.67	3431	50.33	6	8	3	211	6
RJ Shastri	1991-1992	6	10	0	359	206	35.90	1232	29.13	1	0	0	30	2
SC Ganguly	1996-1999	11	18	1	596	101*	35.05	1232	48.37	1	3	1	80	5
PK Amre	1992-1993	4	6	1	169	103	33.80	529	31.94	1	0	0	18	0
NS Sidhu	1990-1999	11	18	0	585	201	32.50	1382	42.32	1	2	3	63	6
M Azharuddin	1990-1999	23	34	1	1056	192	32.00	1694	62.33	4	2	0	133	2
M Prabhakar	1990-1993	12	20	2	571	95	31.72	1414	40.38	0	5	2	61	0
SB Joshi	1997-1997	4	4	1	84	43	28.00	222	37.83	0	0	0	6	1
HH Kanitkar	1999-1999	1	2	0	56	45	28.00	99	56.56	0	0	0	6	0
KS More	1990-1993	10	15	1	380	73	27.14	1002	37.92	0	4	1	40	0
A Jadeja	1992-1999	7	11	1	268	96	26.80	699	38.34	0	1	0	23	2
AS Wassan	1990-1990	3	4	1	79	53	26.33	119	66.38	0	1	1	8	0
VVS Laxman	1997-1999	8	13	2	259	64	23.54	725	35.72	0	2	2	24	0
N Kapil Dev	1990-1994	13	19	0	440	129	23.15	665	66.16	1	1	2	54	8
SV Manjrekar	1990-1994	13	22	3	417	46	21.94	1331	31.32	0	0	1	33	0
WV Raman	1990-1997	6	11	1	219	96	21.90	545	40.18	0	2	4	27	1
S Ramesh	1999-1999	2	4	1	60	28	20.00	147	40.81	0	0	0	3	0
NR Mongia	1994-1999	11	16	0	318	78	19.87	998	31.86	0	2	1	30	0
DB Vengsarkar	1990-1992	7	11	0	205	54	18.63	575	35.65	0	2	2	13	0

[R!TTER]

15 minutes ago, kira said:

lol tendulkar even in the twilight of his career was better than everyone and some idiots still cry about his retirement 

Tbh he wasn't even getting beaten like these tailenders in the top order. He just couldn't convert his starts, his concentration was waning. IIRC he was the 2nd highest scorer in Aus, 3rd or 4th highest in Eng, also the media hype wrt 100th ton put too much pressure on him.

[swastikpanda2]

It's not just SENA countries. Our batting is a big let down in India also.

 

I am sure this batting group has never clicked as a group with every 5 batsman scoring half centuries just like Fab 5 used to do, not even against the likes of SL, WI.

If you will see you won't even find the home batting domination by this players also. Yes there are instances of individual performances when we had a 200 run patnerships and then a mini collapse which would prevent us from scoring 600 and we would score 400-500 with the help of Aswin-Jadeja-Shami/Bhuvi.

 

 

 

[zen]

1 hour ago, beetle said:

Missing bk.

BK has no score over 50 though .... therefore not a solution .... the specialist batmen have been a let down apart from a few outliers 

[wanted_desi]

Its time to kick Vijay, Dhawan, Pujara out for good. I don't have any hope left out for them. 

 

[swastikpanda2]

1 minute ago, wanted_desi said:

Its time to kick Vijay, Dhawan, Pujara out for good. I don't have any hope left out for them. 

 

Replacements?

[wanted_desi]

9 minutes ago, swastikpanda2 said:

Replacements?

Anyone who can hold a bat. Shaw, Vihari, Mayank to start with. 

[Straight Drive]

Yes, the worst batting lineup in SENA. 

[chewy]

Sadly true, India continue to be pathetic abroad barring Kohli

No-one with grit and mental fortitude barring Kohli...bunch of mental midgets...hyped by glamorous IPL salaries 

 

[adi B]

6 sub 200 scores in last 8 test innings ,minnow level batting line up .all big names on paper but 0 in substance 

[Straight Drive]

9 minutes ago, chewy said:

Sadly true, India continue to be pathetic abroad barring Kohli

No-one with grit and mental fortitude barring Kohli...bunch of mental midgets...hyped by glamorous IPL salaries 

 

Very true. The IPL / T20i  effect is clearly seen here. The dismissals of Dinesh Karthik, K L Rahul, Ajinkya rahane and Shikhar Dhawan. 4 days test will be a reality soon considering most matches are finishing within 4 days. Even SA lost 2 tests last month withing 3 or 4 days, didn't they? 

[kira]

Our test batting is so bad, take out kohli and this batting will compete with bangladesh for the title of worst batting lineup in the world, may be it is a knee jerk comment but I have been patient with this lot for quite some time, I didn't mind losing the sa series even though it could have been easily won, but I could give the batting some leeway considering the fact that they were playing on green mambas against philander, rabada, morkel, nigidi but falling like 9 pins in these conditions is unacceptable, these aren't unplayable conditions, if you can't even bat in these conditions then you really need to rethink about your international career

[Straight Drive]

Virat saying the top order players need ot learn something from way Umesh and Ishant batted. Seriously, the likes and Shikhar, Rahul, Ajinkya and Vijay need to learn how to put value on wicket. 

[chewy]

2 minutes ago, kira said:

Our test batting is so bad, take out kohli and this batting will compete with bangladesh for the title of worst batting lineup in the world, may be it is a knee jerk comment but I have been patient with this lot for quite some time, I didn't mind losing the sa series even though it could have been easily won, but I could give the batting some leeway considering the fact that they were playing on green mambas against philander, rabada, morkel, nigidi but falling like 9 pins in these conditions is unacceptable, these aren't unplayable conditions, if you can't even bat in these conditions then you really need to rethink about your international career

No knee jerk, fundamental issue with off-stump game and grittiness, some of these batsmen are not upto playing elite level of cricket

[adi B]

5 minutes ago, Straight Drive said:

Virat saying the top order players need ot learn something from way Umesh and Ishant batted. Seriously, the likes and Shikhar, Rahul, Ajinkya and Vijay need to learn how to put value on wicket. 

Virat perfectly summed them up and also that they need to look at the mirror .no coaching,guidance will help when you are playing on the middle,it's all you and your thoughts 

[Straight Drive]

The determination and  temperament for test cricket is clearly lacking, which is subsequently affecting shot selection. The attacking stroke-play in so many short format matches these guys play is also affecting whatever little technique these guys have. 

 

This is a uni dimensional batting lineup which can score only on patta wickets.