ODIS: Rohit vs Kohli

[wanted_desi]

Little bit swing and against bit of pace: Rohit sits around at 2(14) before getting out lol. 

[Nikola]

5 minutes ago, UnknownGenius said:

Yeah give him flat track against mediocre attack and he will feast. A bit of movement and he is in trouble. Not only in ODI even in IPL cricket where Deepak Chahar with a bit of swing makes Rohit look like a tialender

In Todays world odis and t20s is mostly played on flat tracks and almost all batsman get troubled by swing. What are you trying to prove here?

[Nikola]

9 minutes ago, UnknownGenius said:

Yes that's why MSD is an all time ODI great up there with Virat as India's two best ever ODI batsman of all time. because batting at #6 etc is very difficult. 

 

That doesn't mean ms will get free pass for lifetime? His time is over and should have retire in 2015 where was already past expiry date.

[mishra]

10 minutes ago, wanted_desi said:

Little bit swing and against bit of pace: Rohit sits around at 2(14) before getting out lol. 

Only time when he failed was against South Africa in South Africa. Even there also he was second best opener ahead of Amala. Now, Kohli may have done well, but by the time Kohli walked in, Was the older ball dong exactly same thing as new ball and new ball bowlers?

 

Player     Mat     Inns     NO     Runs     HS     Ave     BF     SR     100     50     0     4s     6s
V Kohli (INDIA)     6     6     3     558     160*     186.00     561     99.46     3     1     0     54     6
S Dhawan (INDIA)     6     6     1     323     109     64.60     310     104.19     1     2     0     47     2
RG Sharma (INDIA)     6     6     0     170     115     28.33     205     82.92     1     0     1     19     6
HM Amla (SA)     6     6     0     154     71     25.66     202     76.23     0     1     0     16     0
AM Rahane (INDIA)     6     5     1     140     79     35.00     182     76.92     0     1     0     9     2
AK Markram (SA)     6     6     0     127     32     21.16     159     79.87     0     0     0     13     3

 

 

Every other time, Rohit has been better

[wanted_desi]

Just now, mishra said:

Only time when he failed was against South Africa in South Africa. Even there also he was second best opener ahead of Amala. Now, Kohli may have done well, but by the time Kohli walked in, Was the older ball dong exactly same thing as new ball and new ball bowlers?

 

Player     Mat     Inns     NO     Runs     HS     Ave     BF     SR     100     50     0     4s     6s
V Kohli (INDIA)     6     6     3     558     160*     186.00     561     99.46     3     1     0     54     6
S Dhawan (INDIA)     6     6     1     323     109     64.60     310     104.19     1     2     0     47     2
RG Sharma (INDIA)     6     6     0     170     115     28.33     205     82.92     1     0     1     19     6
HM Amla (SA)     6     6     0     154     71     25.66     202     76.23     0     1     0     16     0
AM Rahane (INDIA)     6     5     1     140     79     35.00     182     76.92     0     1     0     9     2
AK Markram (SA)     6     6     0     127     32     21.16     159     79.87     0     0     0     13     3

 

 

Every other time, Rohit has been better

Rohit didn't last enough to get ball old for Kohli. 

[mishra]

17 minutes ago, SrinjayDutta said:

Will choose kohli. Only because he has a better defence.

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But how often do you employ defense in odis? You are making your choice based on test cricket.

[Nikola]

1 minute ago, mishra said:

Only time when he failed was against South Africa in South Africa. Even there also he was second best opener ahead of Amala. Now, Kohli may have done well, but by the time Kohli walked in, Was the older ball dong exactly same thing as new ball and new ball bowlers?

  

Player     Mat     Inns     NO     Runs     HS     Ave     BF     SR     100     50     0     4s     6s
V Kohli (INDIA)     6     6     3     558     160*     186.00     561     99.46     3     1     0     54     6
S Dhawan (INDIA)     6     6     1     323     109     64.60     310     104.19     1     2     0     47     2
RG Sharma (INDIA)     6     6     0     170     115     28.33     205     82.92     1     0     1     19     6
HM Amla (SA)     6     6     0     154     71     25.66     202     76.23     0     1     0     16     0
AM Rahane (INDIA)     6     5     1     140     79     35.00     182     76.92     0     1     0     9     2
AK Markram (SA)     6     6     0     127     32     21.16     159     79.87     0     0     0     13     3

 

 

Every other time, Rohit has been better

There was no swing and seam in odis and t20s. Rohit's failures were of other reason not swing and seam in south africa. Few people are getting confused between pitches in test series and odi series. 

[Nikola]

Just now, UnknownGenius said:

That Kohli is the greatest ODI Indian batsman along with MSD and Rohit is not even close

No comparision with Kohli agreed. Why bring dhoni in between? If he plays and loose us worldcup next year then he won't even be considered as one of the great for me.

[Laaloo]

Obviously Kohli but geeez the numbers are seriously close and it's not like Kohli has done any better than Rohit when it comes to big matches.

[mishra]

Just now, wanted_desi said:

Rohit didn't last enough to get ball old for Kohli. 

We know. SA, is one and only series where Rohit failed to score. But there too , he scored a hundred.

[Adi BB]

Lol it's kohli anyday over rohit,rohit still has some flaws , don't forget his struggles in saf in the odi series when kohli and dhawan were scoring for fun 

[Number]

Virat is definitely more reliable no doubt about that, more so while chasing.

But people talking about big games and all at least Rohit rescued us in WC QF and was provably our best bat in the SF. 

Kohli has done nothing in big tournaments.

 

Edited October 22, 2018 by Number

[mishra]

4 minutes ago, Laaloo said:

Obviously Kohli but geeez the numbers are seriously close and it's not like Kohli has done any better than Rohit when it comes to big matches.

If Kohli is GOAT then Rohit is GOAT too.

 

I have allways maintained,  Instead of reading headlines, If you give a thought, Rohit is standout bat for India in odi's.

 

Just check yesterdays game. Rohit scores 150+ and finsihes the game, But Bunty stooges in media give all credit to Kohli.

[Adi BB]

Against top class bowling line up on a relatively tough pitch , this is the order of trust:

kohli

dhawan

rohit 

 

[Laaloo]

2 minutes ago, Number said:

Virat is definitely more reliable no doubt about that, more so while chasing.

But people talking about big games and all at least Rohit rescued us in WC QF and was provably our best bat in the SF. 

Kohli has done nothing in big tournaments.

 

Kohli has that knock in 2013 CT and 2016 World T20. Rohit has the knock in 2007 T20 final where dhoni almost screwed us and the 2015 WC QF.

[SrinjayDutta]

But how often do you employ defense in odis? You are making your choice based on test cricket.

His ability to not throw his wicket away in It is or defend good balls to attack bad ones later sets him apart from all odi batsmen. Kohli continues this for 5 more years, he will be the greatest odi batsmen ever. Odis were always played on better pitches so comparison over the years is quite feasible.

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[Laaloo]

3 minutes ago, Adi BB said:

Against top class bowling line up on a relatively tough pitch , this is the order of trust:

kohli

dhawan

rohit 

 

And the list ends there

Edited October 22, 2018 by Laaloo

[Adi BB]

2 minutes ago, Laaloo said:

And the list ends there

Yeah pretty much ,didn't even bother mentioning the other jokers 

[Laaloo]

1 minute ago, Adi BB said:

Yeah pretty much ,didn't even bother mentioning the other jokers 

It's scary. If those 3 get out early let's say less than 100, any decent team can best us. They have a great chance to restrict us to 200 and if we're chasing 200 or 220 with those 3 gone, forget about it. 

[Adi BB]

8 minutes ago, Number said:

Virat is definitely more reliable no doubt about that, more so while chasing.

But people talking about big games and all at least Rohit rescued us in WC QF and was provably our best bat in the SF. 

Kohli has done nothing in big tournaments.

 

Kohli almost won us the wt20 in 14 and 16 single handedly but for others to screw it .

But talking about odis ,yeah he hasn't done much in the KOs but I am pretty sure he will own the next world cup and probably play a couple of match winning knocks in 1 or 2 KOs in the next or the 2023wc and settle this "choker in Ko" debate once and for all just like how he shut that "can't bat in England " debate !

He's closest to the GOAT for a reason