Vijy Posted December 1, 2018 Share Posted December 1, 2018 Just now, vvvslaxman said: They will roll out flat tracks to benefit Australian batting. So it is hard to take 20 wickets there. Even their lower order might score some runs. Only way India can win this is with scoreboard pressure. it will be similar to last time, I think. Link to comment
Cricketics Posted December 1, 2018 Author Share Posted December 1, 2018 5 hours ago, rkt.india said: Kuldeep will concede more runs than Ashwin and will become un-bowlable like Lords test. Yeah so just assume that and don’t try him at all? Ashwin has been conceding runs overseas for years. Its time for some change. UrmiSinhaRay 1 Link to comment
zen Posted December 1, 2018 Share Posted December 1, 2018 (edited) Squad is full of ineffective players for these conditions such as Ashwin, Jadeja and Bhuvi. Yadav, Ishant and Shami are not expected to set the scene on fire. Kuldeep is relatively new Batting has potential duds such as KL (inconsistent), Vijay (if not in form), and Rahane (struggling since 2 yrs), .... Edited December 1, 2018 by zen Link to comment
rkt.india Posted December 1, 2018 Share Posted December 1, 2018 7 hours ago, Nikola said: If you are going to lose with ashwin by small margin i would take risk with kuldeep to loose by big margin. If it works he will win match and series too if not we are anyway not going to win with ashwin. Overseas especially in SENA, I am only comfortable on taking a gamble on a rookie pacer, not a spinner. Those conditions aren't made for spinners to thrive. Spinnera aren't wicket takers in these conditions. So better play a more reliable spinner. Link to comment
Vijy Posted December 1, 2018 Share Posted December 1, 2018 11 minutes ago, rkt.india said: Overseas especially in SENA, I am only comfortable on taking a gamble on a rookie pacer, not a spinner. Those conditions aren't made for spinners to thrive. Spinnera aren't wicket takers in these conditions. So better play a more reliable spinner. jadeja is more reliable than either. would rather see him or kuldeep play. Link to comment
Tendulkar1996 Posted December 1, 2018 Share Posted December 1, 2018 People forgetting aussie top 7 has 5 left handers.Both ashwin and ishant bowl very well to left handers. WeStMiDz 1 Link to comment
vvvslaxman Posted December 1, 2018 Share Posted December 1, 2018 you need a leggie who can fizz the ball. Link to comment
rkt.india Posted December 2, 2018 Share Posted December 2, 2018 10 hours ago, zen said: Squad is full of ineffective players for these conditions such as Ashwin, Jadeja and Bhuvi. Yadav, Ishant and Shami are not expected to set the scene on fire. Kuldeep is relatively new Batting has potential duds such as KL (inconsistent), Vijay (if not in form), and Rahane (struggling since 2 yrs), .... Most spinners are ineffective in these conditions. UrmiSinhaRay 1 Link to comment
Vijy Posted December 2, 2018 Share Posted December 2, 2018 2 minutes ago, rkt.india said: Most spinners are ineffective in these conditions. it was not always this way. gibbs, underwood, and india's spin trio of the 70s all averaged around 30. And of course Oz spinners have generally done well in home conditions - warne, lyon, mcgill and colin miller. UrmiSinhaRay 1 Link to comment
rtmohanlal Posted December 2, 2018 Share Posted December 2, 2018 i think left arm spinners from the subcontinent have been far more effective than right armers.Herath,Bedi comes into mind. Jadeja seems to be a must UrmiSinhaRay 1 Link to comment
rkt.india Posted December 2, 2018 Share Posted December 2, 2018 12 hours ago, Vijy said: it was not always this way. gibbs, underwood, and india's spin trio of the 70s all averaged around 30. And of course Oz spinners have generally done well in home conditions - warne, lyon, mcgill and colin miller. It changed in 2000s. Home spinners are used to their conditions. UrmiSinhaRay 1 Link to comment
rkt.india Posted December 2, 2018 Share Posted December 2, 2018 4 hours ago, rtmohanlal said: i think left arm spinners from the subcontinent have been far more effective than right armers.Herath,Bedi comes into mind. Jadeja seems to be a must It depends if batsmen are right handed or left. Link to comment
Vijy Posted December 2, 2018 Share Posted December 2, 2018 5 hours ago, rtmohanlal said: i think left arm spinners from the subcontinent have been far more effective than right armers.Herath,Bedi comes into mind. Jadeja seems to be a must too many left-handers in the Oz batting lineup. Not sure how Jaddu would do against them. Link to comment
rtmohanlal Posted December 2, 2018 Share Posted December 2, 2018 4 hours ago, rkt.india said: It depends if batsmen are right handed or left. 2 hours ago, Vijy said: too many left-handers in the Oz batting lineup. Not sure how Jaddu would do against them. that's why I feel all 3 Jadeja,Ashwin & Kuldeep should play.They can form a unit with lots of variety.Bumrah & Bhuvi only are needed as seamers. UrmiSinhaRay 1 Link to comment
Lannister Posted December 2, 2018 Share Posted December 2, 2018 On 12/1/2018 at 2:04 PM, Adi BB said: Yeah this is easily one of those tours where I have more trust in our bowling than the batters but need many things to fall in place like the toss ! Batting will be fine as the conditions will not be extreme like we saw in SA and ENG. But taking 20 wickets will be the challenge, but for T1 we should go with 4 bowlers. We should avoid a loss in the first match. Link to comment
Vijy Posted December 2, 2018 Share Posted December 2, 2018 1 hour ago, rtmohanlal said: that's why I feel all 3 Jadeja,Ashwin & Kuldeep should play.They can form a unit with lots of variety.Bumrah & Bhuvi only are needed as seamers. don't think it would work. 3 spinners does not work well even in India. 2 at most is sufficient, and Vihari (if selected) can bowl a few overs as a part-timer. UrmiSinhaRay 1 Link to comment
Adi BB Posted December 3, 2018 Share Posted December 3, 2018 6 hours ago, Lannister said: Batting will be fine as the conditions will not be extreme like we saw in SA and ENG. But taking 20 wickets will be the challenge, but for T1 we should go with 4 bowlers. We should avoid a loss in the first match. Why not go with 4 Pacers and vihari aa the lone spinner, that way we can have 6 bats as well UrmiSinhaRay 1 Link to comment
Lannister Posted December 3, 2018 Share Posted December 3, 2018 51 minutes ago, Adi BB said: Why not go with 4 Pacers and vihari aa the lone spinner, that way we can have 6 bats as well Isn't Adelaide a spin track? My attack will be Bumrah, Shami/Ishant, Ashwin and Jadeja. This way there will be a depth in the batting and we are certain to not lose this. Link to comment
Cricketics Posted December 10, 2018 Author Share Posted December 10, 2018 These guys almost cost us the game together again. Ashwin bowled crap just fyi whole day. Link to comment
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