Ind could play 3 ARs

[Ankit_sharma03]

5 minutes ago, GautiMaan said:

Shastri made a point in his interview which I particularly liked the idea of padding the batting by playing more batsmen/allrounders which means Hardik could bat at number 8 which will allow us to recover from early setbacks,ask others to go hard since Dhoni is going to be Dhoni.

 

Rohit

Dhawan

Virat

Rayudu

Dhoni

Kedhar

Krunal/Shankar

Hardik

Shami

Chahal

Bumrah

dont like this idea, kuldeep shud play and for sure.........no need for such depth. The day u need it that day we wud already be screwed

[GautiMaan]

5 minutes ago, Ankit_sharma03 said:

dont like this idea, kuldeep shud play and for sure.........no need for such depth. The day u need it that day we wud already be screwed

Last ODI in NZ series.The depth was what saved us you and you need depth to win a World Cup,remember Raina batted at number 7 in 2011.

 There will inevitably come a time when you're top three are dismissed cheaply and you need to recover,even spinners need a good total to be effective,they're not magicians.

Edited February 8, 2019 by GautiMaan

[Ankit_sharma03]

1 minute ago, GautiMaan said:

Last ODI in NZ series.The depth was what saved us you and you need depth to win a World Cup,remember Raina batted at number 7 in 2011.

Till 7 its fine not more 

one game cnt be criteria, dont forget number of games kuldeep has won us . Opp fear him

1 minute ago, GautiMaan said:

 There will inevitably come a time when you're top three are dismissed cheaply and you need to recover,even spinners need a good total to be effective,they're not magicians.

thats what ur middle order is for . Most days in eng it wud be patta wkts and u need highly skilled bowlers

[GautiMaan]

8 minutes ago, Ankit_sharma03 said:

Till 7 its fine not more 

one game cnt be criteria, dont forget number of games kuldeep has won us . Opp fear him

thats what ur middle order is for . Most days in eng it wud be patta wkts and u need highly skilled bowlers

This must be the first time I'm disagreeing with the forum and agreeing with Shastri

 

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Absolutely, because they all bat with an aggressive intent. And so does Vijay Shankar - don't mistake him with the bat. You saw his defensive game on Sunday (in Wellington). If he had been there for the last 8-10 overs, he would have spanked the bowling.

This aggressive intent adds flair to the Indian side. The best ODI sides in the world have proper batsmen at numbers 5, 6, 7, 8. Look at the Indian team in 1983, or even in 1985. Then, look at the 2011 Indian team. You had Suresh Raina coming in at number seven, and he won you games (against Australia in the quarter-final and Pakistan in the semi-final). With Yuvraj Singh, MS Dhoni and Raina at numbers 5, 6, 7, no side could relax. So when you have Hardik Pandya coming in at number 7 or even at 8, the opposition cannot relax.

 

[Khota]

Once again today the guy who scored the least was an allrounder and the worst pace bowler was AR. Facts, facts and more facts.

[philcric]

 

[Ankit_sharma03]

 

FACT- 

 

2 man of the match in 3 games in Overseas

[prudent_kreeda]

3 hours ago, Khota said:

Once again today the guy who scored the least was an allrounder and the worst pace bowler was AR. Facts, facts and more facts.

    Thats why they are called all rounders . Using the word " Allrounder"  and not "Great Allrounder " . Tthey are not great at batting else they would be called top order bats. They are not great bowlers , else they would be called quality bowlers. This tribe which is below the rung of top drawer has a place in shorter formats , may not be in Tests. Expecting them to be better than top draw batsmen or to be better than pure bowlers is just foolish.

Edited February 8, 2019 by prudent_kreeda

[zen]

1 minute ago, prudent_kreeda said:

Expecting them to be better than top draw batsmen or to be better than pure bowlers is just foolish.

To add to it everyone knows that  Pandya bowled when Grandhomme was on fire and actually changed the momentum by picking his wkt .... Others gave runs early on before Krunal put the brakes, and then bowled once Grandhomme was back in the hut 

[Straight Drive]

3 hours ago, Khota said:

Once again today the guy who scored the least was an allrounder and the worst pace bowler was AR. Facts, facts and more facts.

He was taken to cleaners today but he still remains one of our better LOI format player. Every cricketer has off day. What's the big deal in that.

[Ankit_sharma03]

3 minutes ago, Straight Drive said:

He was taken to cleaners today but he still remains one of our better LOI format player. Every cricketer has off day. What's the big deal in that.

nothing he just wanna prove his point that is getting screwed every day. the guy blamed shankar for having 4.75 eco in odi to prove his point........4.75 eco which is gold . 

Acc to him specialist can have off days and an all rounder needs to perform everyday in every dept 

[zen]

I liked how Hardik upset Grandhomme's rhythm by mixing things up. GH was in hit everything to the boundary mode and Pandya even bowled wide outside off stump to frustrate him to eventually induce the false shot .... Great thinking and set up! 

[maniac]

2 minutes ago, zen said:

I liked how Hardik upset Grandhomme's rhythm by mixing things up. GH was in hit everything to the boundary mode and Pandya even bowled wide outside off stump to frustrate him to eventually induce the false shot .... Great thinking and set up! 

I don’t think even HP analyzed his bowling that much like you did. Clearly Grandhomme lost shape on the short and wide buffet ball

 

Anyway good darting by Krunal today and HP should be in every T20 X1 no doubts about it

[zen]

1 minute ago, maniac said:

I don’t think even HP analyzed his bowling that much like you did. Clearly Grandhomme lost shape on the short and wide buffet ball

 

Anyway good darting by Krunal today and HP should be in every T20 X1 no doubts about it

if you watched the game, you would know that he was trying different tactics 

 

Stayed awake as I expected good performances from Pandya bros

[Straight Drive]

37 minutes ago, Ankit_sharma03 said:

nothing he just wanna prove his point that is getting screwed every day. the guy blamed shankar for having 4.75 eco in odi to prove his point........4.75 eco which is gold . 

Acc to him specialist can have off days and an all rounder needs to perform everyday in every dept 

Even the likes of Sobers, Kapil , Imran and Botham used to have off days. So did Kallis, Shakib, Cairns. It's unrealistic expectation for an AR to perform well in both skills that too in every match. Probably the poster is just trolling others and is very successful at that. 

[Ankit_sharma03]

4 minutes ago, Straight Drive said:

Even the likes of Sobers, Kapil , Imran and Botham used to have off days. So did Kallis, Shakib, Cairns. It's unrealistic expectation for an AR to perform well in both skills that too in every match. Probably the poster is just trolling others and is very successful at that. 

that aint trolling or sarcasm , u have to follow OP views from start to understand his great ideas 

[zen]

10 minutes ago, Ankit_sharma03 said:

that aint trolling or sarcasm , u have to follow OP views from start to understand his great ideas 

OP(original poster/post of this thread)  = yours truly

[Straight Drive]

57 minutes ago, Ankit_sharma03 said:

that aint trolling or sarcasm , u have to follow OP views from start to understand his great ideas 

No. Don't want to get in troll trap. A lot of those here which leads to waste of time. 

[Khota]

3 hours ago, prudent_kreeda said:

    Thats why they are called all rounders . Using the word " Allrounder"  and not "Great Allrounder " . Tthey are not great at batting else they would be called top order bats. They are not great bowlers , else they would be called quality bowlers. This tribe which is below the rung of top drawer has a place in shorter formats , may not be in Tests. Expecting them to be better than top draw batsmen or to be better than pure bowlers is just foolish.

Above I can agree with which also happens to be the truth. Now the question is someone needs to do an analytics and arrive at the conclusion if they add value to the team. I could but just dont have the time.

[Khota]

2 hours ago, Straight Drive said:

He was taken to cleaners today but he still remains one of our better LOI format player. Every cricketer has off day. What's the big deal in that.

He would be hit more often than not.