vvvslaxman Posted May 15, 2019 Share Posted May 15, 2019 If the pitch has a little bit of pace we are going to be lethal. If it has bounce too we will be unplayable. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=37jOpBHOoIk Link to comment
Vilander Posted May 16, 2019 Share Posted May 16, 2019 Rabada beat every Indian bowler so outright that it almost hurts, he is in some other plane. Other than that we know cummins is close to him. Archer is lesser than Bumrah Shami. Stokes is equal to Pandya in bowling. Indian spinners are in different league compared to others. So i would say. SA followed by Ind/Aus then Eng in order of bowling lineups. If batting clicks then we can overwhelm SA and beat Aus, Eng batting and even WI batting seems too strong. Eng hopefully can be avoided in knockouts and WI hopefully we meet in a pacy pitch where bowlers can outclass their hitters. Link to comment
Gollum Posted May 16, 2019 Share Posted May 16, 2019 (edited) Cummins Starc Jhy Richardson Coulter-Nile Kane Richardson Behrendorff Zampa Lyon Stoinis Maxwell Check how many options Aus have, look at the depth. They have picked 6 frontline quicks, we have 3...who do you think will be fresher in KO stage? Theoretically they can play Starc/Cummins only in 4-5 important group matches and unleash them on us in SF, Bumrah's gas tank will be empty by then and Shami/BK worse. They have no weak link, 5th bowler duties can be done by Stoinis/Maxwell. And Aussie teams will always be mentally tough in big matches, people often overlook that. Outstanding squad selection Poised to win 6th WC IMHO. Edited May 16, 2019 by Gollum diehardpacer 1 Link to comment
vvvslaxman Posted May 16, 2019 Share Posted May 16, 2019 India's biggest trump card is Kuldeep who has absolutely owned top nations in recent times at various times. Chahal has complemented beautifully. This is the luxury none of the other teams have. Using him at the right time is very very crucial. Link to comment
rkt.india Posted May 16, 2019 Share Posted May 16, 2019 Aus and SA have better bowling than us. diehardpacer 1 Link to comment
rkt.india Posted May 16, 2019 Share Posted May 16, 2019 1 hour ago, Gollum said: Cummins Starc Jhy Richardson Coulter-Nile Kane Richardson Behrendorff Zampa Lyon Stoinis Maxwell Check how many options Aus have, look at the depth. They have picked 6 frontline quicks, we have 3...who do you think will be fresher in KO stage? Theoretically they can play Starc/Cummins only in 4-5 important group matches and unleash them on us in SF, Bumrah's gas tank will be empty by then and Shami/BK worse. They have no weak link, 5th bowler duties can be done by Stoinis/Maxwell. And Aussie teams will always be mentally tough in big matches, people often overlook that. Outstanding squad selection Poised to win 6th WC IMHO. Excluding Hazlewood from the squad should go down as one of the worst decision ever in history of the game. Jhy got injured and they replace him with Kane Richardson and still not Hazlewood. Any team would love to have a bowler like Hazlewood. Gollum and Nikola 2 Link to comment
vvvslaxman Posted May 16, 2019 Share Posted May 16, 2019 (edited) IN the last 2 years Away & Neutral record for India Beat SL in SL 5-0 Beat SA in SA 5-1 Beat NZ in NZ 4-1 Beat WI in WI 3-1 Beat OZ in OZ 2-1 Lost to Eng in Eng 1-2 Neutral record Asia cup - Won the final Won 5 tied 1 CT - Reached the final Won 3 lost 2 We have been doing fabulously well even with lot of obvious inadequacies. KulCha/Kohli/Dhawan/Sharma have been the main players during this period. Key points. Six hitters we have only 2. Dhoni out of 1117 balls he faced hit only 11 sixes. That is way too less for a lower order hitter. Player Mat Inns NO Runs HS Ave BF SR 100 50 0 4s 6s V Kohli 30 30 10 1882 160* 94.1 1949 96.56 7 9 1 175 22 S Dhawan 36 36 3 1717 132* 52.03 1704 100.76 5 8 1 231 19 RG Sharma 32 32 5 1601 137* 59.29 1797 89.09 7 7 2 149 51 MS Dhoni 36 25 12 850 87* 65.38 1117 76.09 0 7 1 55 11 AM Rahane 12 11 1 481 103 48.1 635 75.74 1 4 0 43 5 AT Rayudu 13 13 4 389 90 43.22 487 79.87 0 3 2 32 12 KM Jadhav 29 16 7 350 63 38.88 352 99.43 0 2 1 34 5 KD Karthik 14 12 5 294 50* 42 374 78.6 0 1 1 25 3 HH Pandya 27 15 2 277 76 21.3 221 125.33 0 1 2 16 18 B Kumar 31 11 5 181 53* 30.16 261 69.34 0 1 0 13 2 Yuvraj Singh 8 7 1 162 53 27 181 89.5 0 1 0 18 2 KL Rahul 7 6 1 97 60 19.4 124 78.22 0 1 1 7 1 MK Pandey 3 3 1 94 50* 47 110 85.45 0 1 0 6 0 RA Jadeja 14 6 1 82 25 16.4 117 70.08 0 0 0 3 0 SS Iyer 3 2 0 48 30 24 58 82.75 0 0 0 4 Player Mat Inns Overs Mdns Runs Wkts BBI Ave Econ SR 4 5 Kuldeep Yadav 28 27 245.4 7 1095 57 6/25 19.21 4.45 25.8 4 1 YS Chahal 24 24 217.1 3 1043 44 6/42 23.7 4.8 29.6 1 2 B Kumar 31 30 231.2 15 1130 37 5/42 30.54 4.88 37.5 1 1 JJ Bumrah 20 20 162.1 11 674 35 5/27 19.25 4.15 27.8 1 1 HH Pandya 27 26 189.4 2 1021 23 3/40 44.39 5.38 49.4 0 0 Mohammed Shami 9 9 78.4 4 370 18 4/48 20.55 4.7 26.2 1 0 KM Jadhav 29 21 98.5 1 477 17 3/23 28.05 4.82 34.8 0 0 RA Jadeja 14 14 126 3 630 13 4/29 48.46 5 58.1 1 0 UT Yadav 9 8 70.1 3 387 13 3/30 29.76 5.51 32.3 0 0 AR Patel 4 4 40 1 154 6 3/34 25.66 3.85 40 0 0 SN Thakur 5 5 35.5 0 218 6 4/52 36.33 6.08 35.8 1 0 R Ashwin 6 5 48 1 242 5 3/28 48.4 5.04 57.6 0 0 KK Ahmed 4 4 31 1 167 4 3/48 41.75 5.38 46.5 0 0 DL Chahar 1 1 4 0 37 1 1/37 37 9.25 24 0 0 NOTE: This record is purely on Away and Neutral venues. Edited May 16, 2019 by vvvslaxman Link to comment
vvvslaxman Posted May 16, 2019 Share Posted May 16, 2019 6 minutes ago, rkt.india said: Aus and SA have better bowling than us. Not true if you look at the impact that Kulcha left during our overseas. They don't have one spinner let alone two that come close to these two. Link to comment
Gollum Posted May 16, 2019 Share Posted May 16, 2019 6 minutes ago, rkt.india said: Excluding Hazlewood from the squad should go down as one of the worst decision ever in history of the game. Jhy got injured and they replace him with Kane Richardson and still not Hazlewood. Any team would love to have a bowler like Hazlewood. I thought Josh was injured for the last 3-4 months. Link to comment
vvvslaxman Posted May 16, 2019 Share Posted May 16, 2019 Shami averages 20 overseas in the last 2 years !!! Link to comment
rkt.india Posted May 16, 2019 Share Posted May 16, 2019 28 minutes ago, vvvslaxman said: Not true if you look at the impact that Kulcha left during our overseas. They don't have one spinner let alone two that come close to these two. in those conditions, spinners would not be as effective, proved last time when we lost the ODI series. Link to comment
rkt.india Posted May 16, 2019 Share Posted May 16, 2019 (edited) 29 minutes ago, Gollum said: I thought Josh was injured for the last 3-4 months. https://www.cricket.com.au/news/josh-hazlewood-bitterly-disappointed-missing-world-cup-australia-richardson-star-finch-langer/2019-05-15 He had injury but has recovered and proved his fitness though selectors want him to focus on Ashes. Edited May 16, 2019 by rkt.india Link to comment
vvvslaxman Posted May 16, 2019 Share Posted May 16, 2019 2 minutes ago, rkt.india said: in those conditions, spinners would not be as effective, proved last time when we lost the ODI series. He still won one match for us. He is not going to bowl to the same batting power house every match. He will bowl to different teams. Besides he didn't have Bumrah or Shami as back ups. Now they will have. IIRC in one match they opened with Pandya. Link to comment
Gollum Posted May 16, 2019 Share Posted May 16, 2019 (edited) 49 minutes ago, vvvslaxman said: Not true if you look at the impact that Kulcha left during our overseas. They don't have one spinner let alone two that come close to these two. Sadly SF/F will be played on fresh wickets and not used ones, meaning quicks have a huge advantage. Once you are there, it all comes down to pace bowling strength, form and freshness of the quicks. I don't doubt the former 2 but freshness I am not sure, 3 quicks for 9 group matches (no Canada/UAE/Oman/Uganda type minnow either) will take a heavy toll. Also since our campaign begins late we will have to cover our group stage in some 30 days, that's an insane amount of stress for a world event. I dunno why no one is talking about this scheduling, by the time our WC begins the other teams would have finished 2/9 matches Archer/Boult/Cummins/Starc by semis would have workload of maybe 6 matches in 36 days, Bumrah/Shami maybe 8 matches in 30 days. Who will have more in the reserves by the end? It is complete insanity to travel with just the 3 quicks and now these bastards want Axar as 4th spinner, mother*ers. Edited May 16, 2019 by Gollum vvvslaxman and Jimmy Cliff 1 1 Link to comment
vvvslaxman Posted May 16, 2019 Share Posted May 16, 2019 That is true. Back up seamer is always needed in places like England. This is the kind of information team management has to work out. That is what these bozos get paid for. Wish they had allowed 16 member squad. Link to comment
Gollum Posted May 16, 2019 Share Posted May 16, 2019 (edited) 24 minutes ago, rkt.india said: https://www.cricket.com.au/news/josh-hazlewood-bitterly-disappointed-missing-world-cup-australia-richardson-star-finch-langer/2019-05-15 He had injury but has recovered and proved his fitness though selectors want him to focus on Ashes. Big relief for other teams. Josh/Cummins/Starc in starting XI would have been scary af. But Oz selectors rarely mess up especially before big tournaments, they would have had a solid reason to not pick him in the squad. Not 3D enough maybe, or they didn't want to risk a recently injured player (like Handscomb's case), recent form, rhythm in practice Edited May 16, 2019 by Gollum Link to comment
Norman Posted May 16, 2019 Share Posted May 16, 2019 5 minutes ago, vvvslaxman said: That is true. Back up seamer is always needed in places like England. This is the kind of information team management has to work out. That is what these bozos get paid for. Wish they had allowed 16 member squad. I think 17 member squad would have been ideal. It's pathetic from ICC to only allow 15 players for a month and a half long tournament. Just 4 backups for 11 games (provided a team goes to the final) is just not enough. Link to comment
rkt.india Posted May 16, 2019 Share Posted May 16, 2019 26 minutes ago, Gollum said: Big relief for other teams. Josh/Cummins/Starc in starting XI would have been scary af. But Oz selectors rarely mess up especially before big tournaments, they would have had a solid reason to not pick him in the squad. Not 3D enough maybe, or they didn't want to risk a recently injured player (like Handscomb's case), recent form, rhythm in practice half fit Hazlewood is any day better than fully fit Kane. Link to comment
vvvslaxman Posted May 16, 2019 Share Posted May 16, 2019 Just now, Gollum said: Big relief for other teams. Josh/Cummins/Starc in starting XI would have been scary af. But Oz selectors rarely mess up especially before big tournaments, they would have had a solid reason to not pick him in the squad. Not 3D enough maybe, or they didn't want to risk a recently injured player (like Handscomb's case), recent form, rhythm in practice He lacks penetration, variation, top speed. Once the movement is gone he is pedestrian. Jhye Richardson is an exciting prospect with bundle of energy. Jhye Richardson is sort of a specialist in one dayers. He looks innocuous. But he is hard to go after in the beginning. May be a bit like Bruce Reid who had more bounce though. Link to comment
rkt.india Posted May 16, 2019 Share Posted May 16, 2019 24 minutes ago, vvvslaxman said: He lacks penetration, variation, top speed. Once the movement is gone he is pedestrian. Jhye Richardson is an exciting prospect with bundle of energy. Jhye Richardson is sort of a specialist in one dayers. He looks innocuous. But he is hard to go after in the beginning. May be a bit like Bruce Reid who had more bounce though. Jhye is injured and is replaced by Kane. Also Hazlewood is as quick as Jhy and both have similar top and average speeds. Jhye is shorter. Hazlewood gets bounce as well. Currently, only Starc and Bumrah have better ODI record than Hazlewood. Average 25, ER 4.73, SR 31. This is one of the best stat combination currently where all three factors are great average, ER, SR. Link to comment
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