rkt.india Posted June 19, 2019 Share Posted June 19, 2019 (edited) 26 minutes ago, Haarkarjeetgaye said: Ok. Would you know then why there is water shortage in Delhi , Meerut and Faridabad. that's failure of Delhi govt. if tanker mafiya can get water why not govts? Edited June 19, 2019 by rkt.india Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rkt.india Posted June 19, 2019 Share Posted June 19, 2019 21 minutes ago, mishra said: @OP Modi government has just pledged to put water pipes in every house by 2024. Assuming some delay, I will assume it will reach by 2025. @rkt.india Issue is not limited to rivers drieing up or water diverted. Some time back, I mentioned in some thread that water crisis looms India. Now real way to understand water crisis is ground water level. https://socialissuesindia.wordpress.com/2017/12/27/alarming-fall-in-groundwater-levels-in-india/ This year, when I visited India, I observed one very peculiar thing which Modi Government has done or doing. Its investement in plants and forests. The approach is regeneration of forests in uninhibited lands all across India. Work was/is visible around Delhi. It needs to be done at war scale. Studies relating to Scietific Water harvesting mechanism in cities and their implementation is need of hour that can be done by rain water harvesting that can regenerate ground water as well and water friendly tree plantation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Haarkarjeetgaye Posted June 19, 2019 Author Share Posted June 19, 2019 2 minutes ago, rkt.india said: that's failure of Delhi govt. Meerut aur Faridabad bhi hai. mishra 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mishra Posted June 19, 2019 Share Posted June 19, 2019 9 minutes ago, rkt.india said: that can be done by rain water harvesting that can regenerate ground water as well and water friendly tree plantation. Yes, But, Its declining since time immaterial. Article from 2007 https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/abs/10.1080/07900628908722432?journalCode=cijw20 From 2002 http://www.earth-policy.org/books/pb/pbch2_ss2 Quote The other country with extensive overpumping is India, which is depleting aquifers in Punjab (the country's breadbasket), Haryana, Gujarat, Rajasthan, Andhra Pradesh, and Tamil Nadu. The International Water Management Institute estimates that aquifer depletion could eventually reduce India's grain harvest by one fourth.17 The latest data indicate that under Punjab and Haryana, water tables are falling by up to a meter a year. Data for monitored wells in northern Gujarat suggest that the water table has fallen from a depth of 15 meters to 400 meters over the last three decades. At this point, the harvests of wheat and rice, India's principal food grains, are still increasing. But within the next few years, the loss of irrigation water could override technological progress and start shrinking the harvest, as it is already doing in China.18 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rkt.india Posted June 19, 2019 Share Posted June 19, 2019 41 minutes ago, Haarkarjeetgaye said: Meerut aur Faridabad bhi hai. Meerutt also has plenty of water from Gang Nahar diverted from Ganga. How can these placed go dry. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Haarkarjeetgaye Posted June 19, 2019 Author Share Posted June 19, 2019 23 minutes ago, rkt.india said: Meerutt also has plenty of water from Gang Nahar diverted from Ganga. How can these placed go dry. Ask the authorities. mishra 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rkt.india Posted June 19, 2019 Share Posted June 19, 2019 49 minutes ago, Haarkarjeetgaye said: Ask the authorities. or the report is just a figment of imagination. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Haarkarjeetgaye Posted June 19, 2019 Author Share Posted June 19, 2019 1 hour ago, rkt.india said: or the report is just a figment of imagination. but not the water crisis. mishra and Stan AF 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sergio04 Posted June 19, 2019 Share Posted June 19, 2019 (edited) rediff ki aadhi se jyaada news fake or agenda driven hoti hai Edited June 19, 2019 by sergio04 typo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mishra Posted June 19, 2019 Share Posted June 19, 2019 1 hour ago, sergio04 said: reddif ki aadhi se jyaada news fake or agenda driven hoti hai Like ndtv, Rediff has been reporting net loss in millions every quarter since over a decade. I have no idea how these ventures can show loss after loss every year on their books and still be in business. And these houses teach social and ethical lessons to middle class. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trichromatic Posted June 20, 2019 Share Posted June 20, 2019 Hyderabad has water shortage during summer each year. But this year has been worst. We have been storing water every day for over a month now. Our society has 200 flats and they needs 22 tankers of water every day. They were hardly getting 7-8 tankers resulting in water supply from 8 PM to 10-11 PM only. So we had to make sure that we store water during that time and use it whole day. Cleaning home and clothes was difficult. Situation has been better for last 2 days. Turning_track and Haarkarjeetgaye 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sukhoi Posted June 20, 2019 Share Posted June 20, 2019 On 6/18/2019 at 12:34 PM, Haarkarjeetgaye said: https://www.rediff.com/news/interview/21-indian-cities-will-have-zero-tap-water/20190618.htm June 18, 2019 08:31 IST 'If the government does not take any action soon, 21 cities of India will become like Cape Town, with no water.' 'Four cities -- Delhi, Gurgaon, Meerut and Faridabad -- will suffer the worst.' More like this How best to tackle India's water crisis IMAGE: Residents line up to fill containers with drinking water from a municipal tanker in New Delhi. Photograph: Anushree Fadnavis/Reuters India is facing a water emergency of unprecedented proportions. Cities are facing an acute shortage of water and in smaller towns tankers are lining up to provide water. The situation is much worse in the villages, where more and more people migrate to the cities in search of water. "In Nagpur, today, we have Veolia India, a French company, that is providing water... Veolia India now wants to supply water in 18 cities of India. Soon, they will capture the country's water," Magsaysay Award winner Rajendra Singh, below, tells Rediff.com's Syed Firdaus Ashraf. Why is there no permanent solution for a serious issue like water scarcity? Where did we go wrong? Take any political party's manifesto and you will find that they don't talk about water. The tears in their eyes have dried up and the only time they speak about water is when they want to privatise water. One party in its manifesto says it will provide tap water to every citizens's home. But how it is possible? There is no water left. In this crisis, how can you make such promises of jal-nal (water in taps)? This jal-nal is only for private companies. What did earlier governments do to solve the water problem? When water was priority, past governments built large dams. Take Maharashtra, where there are 42 large dams. The vision of the state's leaders was to grow sugarcane and make money. Agriculture was industrialised in Maharashtra. Agriculture became an agribusiness. Today, in Maharashtra, to do sugarcane farming 84 per cent of the water is being taken out from the ground. Is there anything more dangerous than this? Politicians of our country don't have any vision for water. The only vision they have is how to get votes in the name of water. The politicians only think of solving the water issue through private contractors. These private contractors can never find a solution to the water problem. It is only a community that can solve the water problem. But when people don't get involved as a community to solve a problem, then it will never be solved. What about Maharashtra's Jalyukt Shivar programme, which the Bharatiya Janata Party-Shiv Sena government introduced? This is a classic example. The first two years of the Jalyukt Shivar was an ideal model programme. There was scientific thought that was put into it. Villagers across Maharashtra had put in Rs 350 crore from their own pockets to solve the water problem. However, later on, when the government started giving Jalyukt Shivar work to private contractors, the people, instead of giving money, stopped doing work. They understood that the contractors are going to siphon off the money in the name of water. Jalyukt Shivar has failed now. Why did the Maharashtra government rope in private contractors? Because they wanted contractors to make money and return it in election time. I don't know who got this idea, whether it was Chief Minister Devendra Fadnavis or his ministers. But the buck stops at Fadnavis's table. Why didn't you protest when contractors were involved in the Jalyukt Shivar programme? I informed Fadnavis about it, but he didn't do anything. My job is not to fight, but to do work peacefully. Till the time Fadnavis listened to me, I worked for him. But the day he stopped, I sat at home. Even today I work in Sangli district in Maharashtra where we have ensured rivers like the Agrani and Mahakali provide water in spite of four years of drought. How serious is the water crisis in India? Very soon, 21 cities in India will have Day Zero water (when the taps run dry and people will have to queue up for water). If the government does not take any action soon, 21 cities of India will become like Cape Town, with no water. Four cities -- Delhi, Gurgaon, Meerut and Faridabad -- will suffer the worst. There will be zero water in their reserves. IMAGE: A woman fetches water from an opening made to filter water next to a polluted lake in Maharashtra's Thane district. Photograph: Prashant Waydande/Reuters How is the situation in the villages? People are leaving the villages to come to cities. India's future is turning into a dangerous landscape. When the population leaves the villages and comes to cities, then the urban future is very dangerous. These things are not mentioned in any of the political parties's manifestos. What can the government do if there is less rainfall? Less rainfall is not natural, but it is a man-made (crisis). Scarcity of water is a man-made disaster in India. They have killed trees on the mountains. There is no greenery on the ground. When this happens, then those areas will get clouds, but it will not rain as there will be less air pressure. Whenever man tinkers with nature, then nature takes out its anger on mankind. Heavy rainfall in one region, drought in another -- how can India tackle such a situation? When it rains on the mountains it has to be stopped there and the water needs to be put into underground aquifers so there won't be soil erosion. There will be moisture in the soil due to which there will be greenery. That soil will not silt and accumulate into the river. At present, in India, there are simultaneous floods and droughts because we do not control the flow of rainwater. When water flows with great speed, there is erosion of soil. The place where there is no soil is hit by drought, like in Marathwada. In places where there is soil, it erodes and accumulates into the rivers. So the rivers start overflowing, resulting in floods. If we want to stop floods and drought in India, we have to control the flow of rain water. To make India flood-free, we have to slow the water flow. We need to make sure that water walks and when that water walks, then make it crawl. When it starts crawling, put that water in the belly of the Earth. During then prime minister Atal Bihari Vajpayee's term in office, there was a discussion on inter-linking of rivers to solve the water crisis. Will it work? In India, as per the Constitution, water rights are on three levels. First, water right is of the river flow, which is decided by the Government of India. Second is the rainfall water, which rights are with the state government. And the third, is in which panchayats and municipal corporations have the rights on the rainfall water in their jurisdiction. These three levels will always be different. Today no chief minister of any state will say he has surplus water. So how can any government say that river linking will be done and everyone will be given water? Is it true that we are using six times more water than what we used 100 years ago? Our lifestyle has changed. 100 years ago, when humans used to go to the toilet or bathroom, they never used to waste 15 litres of water. Now when we go to the toilet and flush, we waste 6 litres of water on every flush. So the water use pattern has been spoilt in the last 100 years. Earlier, humans were disciplined in using water, but that is not the case now. India was a guru of the world in water discipline. Whenever some guests come home we give them water, not wine as in Europe. We respect water as it is in our culture. We have always considered it to be God. Unfortunately, since the time we put our Gods in concrete cement homes with gates closed, the misuse of water started. This misuse of water is dangerous. IMAGE: Women carry pitchers filled with water. Photograph: Prashant Waydande/Reuters It is said the demand for water in India is expected to reach its peak in 2030. Is it true? Yes, the demand for water is increasing. The demand will increase more and more as time goes by. To get that kind of water we need to have 6 Rs in life -- Respect, Reduce, Retreat, Recycle, Reuse and Rejuvenate nature by water. This indigenous Indian wisdom has a deep understanding of water. We used to follow a rule that as much water as we consume in life, we will return it back to nature before we die. Therefore, we used to consume less water. How much water must a family of four in a city consume? If we start making English toilets on a mass scale, then we will not be able to do with 40 litres daily which is the maximum need for a man. But if we put into practice the 6 Rs philosophy in life, then 40 litres of water is enough for one man. For a family of four 160 litres is more than enough. To use less water, we have to change our lifestyle. Unfortunately, today our society demands water from the government. But at the same time society has forgotten to make its own arrangements for water. In the earlier days, no king used to provide water to his subjects. King, mahajans (learned people) and the public all used to get involved and ensure that the there is is sufficient water in society. Using less water is a socialist thought, while consumption is a reality of capitalism. In India, the trustee system was in place. The East India Company got capitalism in India through trade. In Nagpur, today, we have Veolia India, a French company, that is providing water. It is a private company. When I spoke to local leaders in Nagpur, they say Veolia India is only giving services for water to consumers. So when politicians change their tune, it is not good. Veolia India now wants to supply water in 18 cities of India. Soon, they will capture the country's water. I want to fight against this privatisation of water. But when it rains, people forget about drought. I don't forget, only politicians forget. In the future, power games will be on water. You just watch, multinational companies will play a big role in it. Pakistani fauji kid ... what about the major power crisis in Pakistan in the hot summer .... any comment kid Power breakdown plunges Sindh, Balochistan into darkness 80% of Karachi loses power https://www.samaa.tv/tag/breakdown/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sukhoi Posted June 20, 2019 Share Posted June 20, 2019 On 6/19/2019 at 11:12 AM, Haarkarjeetgaye said: Good for your area. Just type "Yamuna dries up" in google. You will get a different picture. just type "power crisis in Pakistan" you will get a very good picture any comment Pakistani fauji kid Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mishra Posted June 20, 2019 Share Posted June 20, 2019 (edited) 6 hours ago, Trichromatic said: Hyderabad has water shortage during summer each year. But this year has been worst. We have been storing water every day for over a month now. Our society has 200 flats and they needs 22 tankers of water every day. They were hardly getting 7-8 tankers resulting in water supply from 8 PM to 10-11 PM only. So we had to make sure that we store water during that time and use it whole day. Cleaning home and clothes was difficult. Situation has been better for last 2 days. Once again. Pump failure, Electric issue, Piping issue, Administration apathy and other such stuff can be easily dealt with change in government/Administration. These can be resolved in a matter of few months. But you have to deal with Elephant in room. Issue is ground water level. Replenish it cos it will take several Monsoon seasons. And factor in 1-2 back to back Monsoon failures years too every decade. Not just government, and corporates, Every Individual household and housing colony should and must pitch in. Edited June 20, 2019 by mishra Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Haarkarjeetgaye Posted June 20, 2019 Author Share Posted June 20, 2019 (edited) Jai Shri Krishna Edited June 20, 2019 by Haarkarjeetgaye mishra 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R!TTER Posted June 20, 2019 Share Posted June 20, 2019 On 6/18/2019 at 9:13 PM, G_B_ said: Cities need to investment in sewage treatment plants which recycle water. Re Mahaashtra thats exactly what the Fadnavis government is looking to do. https://www.thebetterindia.com/170042/nagpur-sewage-treatment-groundwater-recycle/ Similar plans should be afoot in every city in India. Not every major city has rivers or lakes to do this, lots of them rely on ground water! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
straight_drive Posted June 22, 2019 Share Posted June 22, 2019 Jai Shri Krishna Allah uh akbarKush Pakistani fauji kidSent from my SM-J701F using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Haarkarjeetgaye Posted June 22, 2019 Author Share Posted June 22, 2019 4 minutes ago, straight_drive said: Allah uh akbar Kush Pakistani fauji kid Sent from my SM-J701F using Tapatalk Kisi bhi bhagwaan ka naam le lo rahoge to tum najayaz pakistani aulad. Mullah giri karte raho. mishra 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Haarkarjeetgaye Posted June 22, 2019 Author Share Posted June 22, 2019 24 minutes ago, straight_drive said: Allah uh akbar Kush Pakistani fauji kid Sent from my SM-J701F using Tapatalk Nikalne se pehle aapko sochna chahiye tha ki Pakistan mein paida hona kitna bada shraap hai. Ab to thappa laga gaya aap pe. Aap jaise log Hindustan ke liye NPAs ho. Gaali doosron ko dete hai aur hai khud NPA. Najayaz Pakistani Aulad mishra 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stan AF Posted June 22, 2019 Share Posted June 22, 2019 (edited) https://www.indiatoday.in/india/video/water-crisis-in-tamil-nadu-palaniswami-govt-accepts-kerala-s-offer-of-20-lakh-litre-water-1553493-2019-06-21 Many Thanks to Kerala. Now more than ever, South Indians need to back each other. Edited June 22, 2019 by Stan AF Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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