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27 minutes ago, vvvslaxman said:

I see utter ignorance among trump supporting Americans. No understanding how the geo politics have worked over years. USA never makes geo political intervention besides rhetorics here and there.  ON the other hand Trump's position will change based on how much you suck up to him. Not that he can intervene.  Many of his utterly screwed up ideas were stoppedby his advisors. One of the white house aide has revealed how crazy this guy is. So seriously these morons should shut up and stop worrying about issues that will have zero impact on their life. USA will intervene in Kashmir issue under Biden? They believe that? Then they are more ignorant than Trump.

You don't vote just on candidate, but what he/she party represents and towards Indian interests. And thus, Dems have to be avoided, with their anti-India statements, plus haven't even reached out to the Indian or even Hindu side, while chasing all other communities.

 

And Biden is using the same tactics as Trump 2016, he is presenting himself as the change, whereas he himself is part of the problem and the establishment. There is absolutely no positive reasons to vote Biden whatsoever.

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29 minutes ago, mishra said:

There are allways alternatives when you put thinkibg hat on. So no, we won’t have to leave Kashmir or Japan won’t have to quit its claims iver few islands and sea and so on. I think, issue is more down to accepting if China will become world number one or not. Obama in his presidency bridged allmost all the gap between China and US. If it wasn’t Trump, and his attitude, 4 years back, President Xi had allmost self declared himself emperor of world during climate changes summit. And rest of world (Uk eu japan) allmost accepted it.

 

8 years of Biden, And there will be no chance that Xi is going to loose. And once its clear what route US is taking, India and other smaller nations will rethink their strateg

China firmly wants india south of highpoints of himalayas. Simple. And it wants multiple access points to arabian sea. If either of these strategic needs are not ok for india then it will be a problem. I dont see any world other than one were india accepts this where there can be lasting peace. But accepting this will adverse to indian strategic need no access to central asia etc. There is no alignment between India and China.

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3 hours ago, vvvslaxman said:

I see utter ignorance among trump supporting Americans. No understanding how the geo politics have worked over years. USA never makes geo political intervention besides rhetorics here and there.  ON the other hand Trump's position will change based on how much you suck up to him. Not that he can intervene.  Many of his utterly screwed up ideas were stoppedby his advisors. One of the white house aide has revealed how crazy this guy is. So seriously these morons should shut up and stop worrying about issues that will have zero impact on their life. USA will intervene in Kashmir issue under Biden? They believe that? Then they are more ignorant than Trump.

 

they destroyed more than few countries even in the last 2 decades :dontknow: 

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3 hours ago, coffee_rules said:

lol. Give me the address , I will go lock myself up. This is very funny. 50% of America voted for him. Do you think 50% needs to be locked in an asylum.

Are you out of your mind. It is a two party system. Republicans will vote for republicans no matter who they field. Add the gun nuts, uneducated,  pro life, alt right conspiracy theory fools anyone will get sizable vote. Just you know Trump did not get popularity vote. He got 3 million votes less. Check the nearest location lol you will find one.

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10 hours ago, someone said:

You don't vote just on candidate, but what he/she party represents and towards Indian interests. And thus, Dems have to be avoided, with their anti-India statements, plus haven't even reached out to the Indian or even Hindu side, while chasing all other communities.

 

And Biden is using the same tactics as Trump 2016, he is presenting himself as the change, whereas he himself is part of the problem and the establishment. There is absolutely no positive reasons to vote Biden whatsoever.

In the interest of INdia, interest of whole world, interest of America, interest of me it is obvious my vote will go to a saner more compassionate human being with reasoning as against  maladjusted sociopath who has no understanding of anything except personal benefits.  Just because a tire company bans his MAGA hat this guy thinks about replacing the presidential car tires lol  Threat, petulance, temper tantrum, school grade bullying These are not presidential qualities. Even in an IT company they expect certain level discipline decorum.  This guy is an example of evil. Pretty much everyone that i know among INdians vote for Biden. Only those who actually don't have voting rights root for Trump lol. It is quiet ironical they actually quiet believe US election will directly impact their life. 

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52 minutes ago, vvvslaxman said:

I am talking about India. 

 

fine ..

 

45 minutes ago, vvvslaxman said:

In the interest of INdia, interest of whole world, interest of America, interest of me it is obvious my vote will go to a saner more compassionate human being with reasoning as against  maladjusted sociopath who has no understanding of anything except personal benefits.  Just because a tire company bans his MAGA hat this guy thinks about replacing the presidential car tires lol  Threat, petulance, temper tantrum, school grade bullying These are not presidential qualities. Even in an IT company they expect certain level discipline decorum.  This guy is an example of evil. Pretty much everyone that i know among INdians vote for Biden. Only those who actually don't have voting rights root for Trump lol. It is quiet ironical they actually quiet believe US election will directly impact their life. 

 

so many retards in your circle .. :giggle:

 

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49 minutes ago, vvvslaxman said:

In the interest of INdia, interest of whole world, interest of America, interest of me it is obvious my vote will go to a saner more compassionate human being with reasoning as against  maladjusted sociopath who has no understanding of anything except personal benefits.  Just because a tire company bans his MAGA hat this guy thinks about replacing the presidential car tires lol  Threat, petulance, temper tantrum, school grade bullying These are not presidential qualities. Even in an IT company they expect certain level discipline decorum.  This guy is an example of evil. Pretty much everyone that i know among INdians vote for Biden. Only those who actually don't have voting rights root for Trump lol. It is quiet ironical they actually quiet believe US election will directly impact their life. 

You are no different than Trump supporter. You are only voting based on looks. Some prefer the perceived loud and in your face style of leadership (Trump), and some prefer so called quiet and soft leadership (Biden). Whereas, both are not much different, as both white man are elites with questionable backgrounds,  and many gaffes. You are also unable to answer directly, and only resort to some verbal diarrhoea. 

 

Instead, vote on what their policies and interests. An ideology of radical lefists and Islamists has to avoided. They are not your friend at all. 

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4 hours ago, vvvslaxman said:

In the interest of INdia, interest of whole world, interest of America, interest of me it is obvious my vote will go to a saner more compassionate human being with reasoning as against  maladjusted sociopath who has no understanding of anything except personal benefits.  Just because a tire company bans his MAGA hat this guy thinks about replacing the presidential car tires lol  Threat, petulance, temper tantrum, school grade bullying These are not presidential qualities. Even in an IT company they expect certain level discipline decorum.  This guy is an example of evil. Pretty much everyone that i know among INdians vote for Biden. Only those who actually don't have voting rights root for Trump lol. It is quiet ironical they actually quiet believe US election will directly impact their life. 

Every politician is a sociopath to some degree. Almost all of them have that Dark Triad. Your decision is based on a emotional knee jerk reaction.

 

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Instead, vote on what their policies and interests. An ideology of radical lefists and Islamists has to avoided. They are not your friend at all. 

 

Many NRI's are oblivious to anything except their immediate benefit for immigration. They will vote for a candidate who will make their stay easier in USA, even when he/she abuses/undermines our Civilization big time.

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On 3/6/2020 at 1:04 AM, First class said:

Call it socialism or call it whatever you like to , but asking middle class tax payers to take care of all those who either don't like to work hard or making less than them, is wrong. Remember all those middle class used to make mush less and paid taxes and worked their way into middles class. Nothing is free in this world, somebody got to pay. Bernie is crazy, lazy Joe is dementic and Trump is racist with no moral values. 

Student debt is one of the powerful forces driving socialism in America. I have watched graffiti near my university area with "Eat the rich" and anarchy signs.

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Why has the student debt become such a monster? One has to see if it is purely due to students opting for education that simply has no market value. I believe it is so. Seeing this debacle, my respect for Indian parents go high. They push their children into fields that have a good market value.

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6 hours ago, kepler37b said:

Every politician is a sociopath to some degree. Almost all of them have that Dark Triad. Your decision is based on a emotional knee jerk reaction.

 

 

Many NRI's are oblivious to anything except their immediate benefit for immigration. They will vote for a candidate who will make their stay easier in USA, even when he/she abuses/undermines our Civilization big time.

Dude i have been following this career for more than 15 years lol you are calling it a knee jerk? seriously? Only knee jerk reaction i see is supporting a demagogue based on his tweets. It is borderline insane that anyone would root for Trump based on his empty rhetorical. I understand that happens with his racist supporters. Indians?

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8 hours ago, someone said:

You are no different than Trump supporter. You are only voting based on looks. Some prefer the perceived loud and in your face style of leadership (Trump), and some prefer so called quiet and soft leadership (Biden). Whereas, both are not much different, as both white man are elites with questionable backgrounds,  and many gaffes. You are also unable to answer directly, and only resort to some verbal diarrhoea. 

 

Instead, vote on what their policies and interests. An ideology of radical lefists and Islamists has to avoided. They are not your friend at all. 

I stopped reading briefly at the use of word "leadership" in the same sentence as Trump.  Last sentence is the gospel for Trump fans.  Last sentence is downright preposterous. They are in tank with islamists? Being inclusive don't make them jihadists. Didn't they take out Osama in Pakistan? First of all why do you compare India with USA?  Pakistan is not going to attack USA. same way middle east is not going to go after India. The enemies are different for different reasons. Indonesia which has the largest muslim population in the world is not going after anyone.  If Pakistan attacks India USA will not do anything much the same way INdia can't do anything if middle east attacks USA. Why do you guys talk like they are all one and the same.  China is not a threat to India? How do you plan to beat them? With the help of Trump?  Indians who live in India worrying about something that will have zero impact in their life is comical. Is it some kind of fashion to talk about American presidential election? or you are obliged to support him just becaues you support Modi. Even Modi by all accounts would know this guy is a nut ball. Just that he won't say it out loud.

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33 minutes ago, vvvslaxman said:

I stopped reading briefly at the use of word "leadership" in the same sentence as Trump.  Last sentence is the gospel for Trump fans.  Last sentence is downright preposterous. They are in tank with islamists? Being inclusive don't make them jihadists. Didn't they take out Osama in Pakistan? First of all why do you compare India with USA?  Pakistan is not going to attack USA. same way middle east is not going to go after India. The enemies are different for different reasons. Indonesia which has the largest muslim population in the world is not going after anyone.  If Pakistan attacks India USA will not do anything much the same way INdia can't do anything if middle east attacks USA. Why do you guys talk like they are all one and the same.  China is not a threat to India? How do you plan to beat them? With the help of Trump?  Indians who live in India worrying about something that will have zero impact in their life is comical. Is it some kind of fashion to talk about American presidential election? or you are obliged to support him just becaues you support Modi. Even Modi by all accounts would know this guy is a nut ball. Just that he won't say it out loud.

Being in denial doesn't vanish the facts. Both President & VP nominees have multiple times spoken on possibly intervention on Indian affairs, multiple times made anti-India statements, and no time reached out to both the Indian & Hindu side relative to the other communities. This is the first time that candidates have taken such an aggressive anti-Indian stand openly on various issues. Even not just the candidates, but various members of Dem party have openly been anti-India.

 

Now, from an Indian context, I pity this elections as both are just Rahul Gandhis, one is the softer and one is the louder. They are both elites, incompetent, and not from grassroots or representative of the "change". There is no pro-wave, and both are seeking votes only the dislikes of the opponents. You have only offered anti-Trump rants, to make Biden better but that's a flimsy logic. Yet, between the 2 Rahuls, avoid going with the one who is inclined with radicals left and extremist groups.

 

 

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More heartburn for antifa fans

 

https://bongino.com/trump-approval-surges-during-dnc

 

Trump Approval Surges During DNC

Kamala Harris made history last night as the first black woman to accept a VP nomination for either main political party. She also helped make history for President Donald Trump’s poll numbers, which saw a surge thereafter (though to be fair – there was no shortage of speakers who could’ve unintentionally boosted Trump!)

 

In the Rasmussen Poll, President Trump’s approval stood at 47% yesterday – but made an incredible four percentage point leap this morning to 51%. When I reached out to Rasmussen to confirm that the sampling for today’s poll wasn’t taken before the DNC began to air, they said the polling data was being accumulated as the DNC speeches were ongoing. In other words, it is likely that some people were being directly influenced by the DNC – albeit not in favor of any Democrats.

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