putrevus Posted November 4, 2019 Share Posted November 4, 2019 (edited) 43 minutes ago, Ankit_sharma03 said: u want dhawan over rahul in t20 u want jadeja over krunal Do u also want thala over pant? what about manish pandey ?? wo bhi chahiye Krunal wud have performed more then Jadeja hasnt performed enough in his whole career Of t20 I don't want this guy in the team does not mean I want other bozos in the team.Don't bring other bozos into argument to support this one. Edited November 4, 2019 by putrevus Link to comment
Ankit_sharma03 Posted November 4, 2019 Share Posted November 4, 2019 8 minutes ago, putrevus said: I don't want this guy in the team does not mean I want other bozos in the team.Don't bring other bozos into argument to support this one. if someone who perform is bozo.....ur selection criteria is biased then Link to comment
sarcastic Posted November 4, 2019 Author Share Posted November 4, 2019 On 11/3/2019 at 10:49 AM, Ankit_sharma03 said: One bad game ppl go crazy, ppl have had bad games ....ppl have dropped catches even someone like jadeja Dnt make one player bad after one game.....dig deep n ull realise pandya has perfomed a lot He has played 17 games in which he already has 3 MOM that to all in overseas Now start counting good perfomances Against WI- 1/15 in 4 overs Against WI- 4 overs 0/23......very good eco Against Aus in Aus- 4/36.....Declared MOM In NZ- 3/28 - Declared MOM vs Aus - 1/17 in 4 overs.....very good eco Against WI - 20/1 in 4 overs against WI- 2/23 ......Declared MOM 21 in 9 ball cameo against WI when we were struggling 26 in 13 ball in NZ cameo almost won us game So he has 8-10 perfomances in an career of just 17 t20s , atleast check before making such threads Well, I would not say Krunal did not deserve to play for India. Nor would I say I will not take him in the future matches. But, it is very hard to forgive a mistake such as that when the result is directly affected by it. I had hope India could still pull it off until that happened. Chahal was so unplayable and the required run rate was 12 or more it when this happened. I would have said the same even if it was a star player like Kohli or Rohit. For that matter, I could not digest when Kohli dropped McCullum when the latter went on to make a 300. At the end of the day, those things happen. But they are extremely painful to digest as a fan. In Kohli's case, we drew instead of winning a test match. In Krunal's case, we unnecessarily lost to BD who never beat us in T20Is. Krunal showed good potential but if he ever does this again, I don't want to see him team India colors at all. I do hope for his sake as well as the team's sake, this is a one time mistake that never repeats. Link to comment
Stan AF Posted November 5, 2019 Share Posted November 5, 2019 Krunal needs to learn to turn the ball more. We have this perennial problem of half batsmen/half bowlers in our team. Real McCoy 1 Link to comment
Real McCoy Posted November 5, 2019 Share Posted November 5, 2019 26 minutes ago, Stan AF said: Krunal needs to learn to turn the ball more Link to comment
Stan AF Posted November 5, 2019 Share Posted November 5, 2019 I have the same complaint wrt Washington Sundar as well. Sure both he and krunal can tonk some sixers late in the innings but their primary job should be able to take wickets. for that they need to learn to impact turn and extract spin no matter the surface. Otherwise we don't need two of one kind here. Cricspin 1 Link to comment
Ankit_sharma03 Posted November 5, 2019 Share Posted November 5, 2019 8 hours ago, sarcastic said: Well, I would not say Krunal did not deserve to play for India. Nor would I say I will not take him in the future matches. But, it is very hard to forgive a mistake such as that when the result is directly affected by it. I had hope India could still pull it off until that happened. Chahal was so unplayable and the required run rate was 12 or more it when this happened. I would have said the same even if it was a star player like Kohli or Rohit. Everyone drop catches Even our best fielder jadeja dropped cook in 2014 series which changes the series. Kohli drop counts has no limit 8 hours ago, sarcastic said: For that matter, I could not digest when Kohli dropped McCullum when the latter went on to make a 300. At the end of the day, those things happen. But they are extremely painful to digest as a fan. In Kohli's case, we drew instead of winning a test match. In Krunal's case, we unnecessarily lost to BD who never beat us in T20Is. Some day they had to beat us..... Link to comment
Stan AF Posted November 5, 2019 Share Posted November 5, 2019 7 minutes ago, Ankit_sharma03 said: Everyone drop catches Even our best fielder jadeja dropped cook in 2014 series which changes the series. Kohli drop counts has no limit Some day they had to beat us..... It's so it is Link to comment
putrevus Posted November 5, 2019 Share Posted November 5, 2019 19 hours ago, Ankit_sharma03 said: if someone who perform is bozo.....ur selection criteria is biased then My selection is not based some odd performances, it is about potential and ability.I don't think Krunal is suited better for this team than Jadeja.I don't want either of them for next world cup.Jadeja will be in the team as a reserve. Link to comment
Ankit_sharma03 Posted November 5, 2019 Share Posted November 5, 2019 3 hours ago, putrevus said: My selection is not based some odd performances, it is about potential and ability.I don't think Krunal is suited better for this team than Jadeja.I don't want either of them for next world cup.Jadeja will be in the team as a reserve. I clearly showed his 8-9 perfomnaces in 17 games which clearly shows perfomances every 2nd game. 3 mom in such short time......he must be doing something right. Jadeja cudnt do well for 10 yr neither has done that well for his franchise. No doubt jadeja has better quality but t20 needs diff skill. Shami is the most skilled bowler in india yet struggled in t20 same with dhawan , dhoni who were good players of odi. In t20 predictabilty is the enemy which is gr8 strength in test n odi as bowlers ....that works for shami n jadeja in those 2 format but goes against them in t20 Link to comment
putrevus Posted November 5, 2019 Share Posted November 5, 2019 11 minutes ago, Ankit_sharma03 said: I clearly showed his 8-9 perfomnaces in 17 games which clearly shows perfomances every 2nd game. 3 mom in such short time......he must be doing something right. Jadeja cudnt do well for 10 yr neither has done that well for his franchise. No doubt jadeja has better quality but t20 needs diff skill. Shami is the most skilled bowler in india yet struggled in t20 same with dhawan , dhoni who were good players of odi. In t20 predictabilty is the enemy which is gr8 strength in test n odi as bowlers ....that works for shami n jadeja in those 2 format but goes against them in t20 Franchise cricket is not international cricket understand that fact first. Jadeja the bowler is better than Krunal in any format and Jadeja is better fielder that trumps over Pandya's so called better batting as he rarely is needed with bat and is very suspect against fast bowlers. Khota 1 Link to comment
Ankit_sharma03 Posted November 5, 2019 Share Posted November 5, 2019 8 minutes ago, putrevus said: Franchise cricket is not international cricket understand that fact first. Jadeja the bowler is better than Krunal in any format and Jadeja is better fielder that trumps over Pandya's so called better batting as he rarely is needed with bat and is very suspect against fast bowlers. Franchise is t20 ...jadejas has struggled both places. No doubt he is better but his bowling style doesnt suit t20 so he hasnt done well same ways shami. I doubt jadeja will even have a single MOM in t20 cricket Khota 1 Link to comment
Straight Drive Posted November 5, 2019 Share Posted November 5, 2019 53 minutes ago, Ankit_sharma03 said: Franchise is t20 ...jadejas has struggled both places. No doubt he is better but his bowling style doesnt suit t20 so he hasnt done well same ways shami. I doubt jadeja will even have a single MOM in t20 cricket Jadeja already has MOM in T20 for CSK. Or did you mean T20i ? Link to comment
Ankit_sharma03 Posted November 5, 2019 Share Posted November 5, 2019 5 minutes ago, Straight Drive said: Jadeja already has MOM in T20 for CSK. Or did you mean T20i ? yes international was what i mean Krunal already has 3 ....jadeja i doubt Link to comment
sarcastic Posted November 6, 2019 Author Share Posted November 6, 2019 23 hours ago, Ankit_sharma03 said: Everyone drop catches Even our best fielder jadeja dropped cook in 2014 series which changes the series. Kohli drop counts has no limit Some day they had to beat us..... I don't know why you are religiously trying to defend Krunal as if he is irreplaceable. In any case, I am not asking Krunal to be dropped but this thread is created to vent out frustration as a fellow Indian cricket fans who could not digest a loss for self inflicted reasons. I do agree that Dhawan and KL's slow partnership is much bigger mujrim for the match but a swayamkruta aparadh such as Krunal's dropped catch hurts a lot. No matter who did that, it hurts deeply when you want your team to win and all your hope gets crashed in one single mishap as that. Khota 1 Link to comment
putrevus Posted November 7, 2019 Share Posted November 7, 2019 (edited) Again flopped with ball and his batting was not needed, This nonsense that some people think that somehow his batting makes him a better fit for this team is ridiculous. Sundar or Krunal only one should play. Edited November 7, 2019 by putrevus Khota and Stan AF 2 Link to comment
Khota Posted November 8, 2019 Share Posted November 8, 2019 Krunal and Dube are both waste of space. There bowling is not needed and batting is not dependable. Best to drop both and get a proper batsman and a bowler. Link to comment
TNAmarkFromIndia Posted November 8, 2019 Share Posted November 8, 2019 5 hours ago, Khota said: Krunal and Dube are both waste of space. There bowling is not needed and batting is not dependable. Best to drop both and get a proper batsman and a bowler. Too soon to write off Dube. He's only played one innings. He played some good knocks against South Africa 'A'. Even if he's not dependable now, he could turn out to be an important player if he gets more chances and develops as a player at the international stage. Maybe he doesn't, but we won't know without trying. Link to comment
Khota Posted November 8, 2019 Share Posted November 8, 2019 5 hours ago, TNAmarkFromIndia said: Too soon to write off Dube. He's only played one innings. He played some good knocks against South Africa 'A'. Even if he's not dependable now, he could turn out to be an important player if he gets more chances and develops as a player at the international stage. Maybe he doesn't, but we won't know without trying. I agree he should not be written off but Indian team is not the place for development. At that stage you have to deliver. Link to comment
putrevus Posted November 8, 2019 Share Posted November 8, 2019 11 hours ago, Khota said: Krunal and Dube are both waste of space. There bowling is not needed and batting is not dependable. Best to drop both and get a proper batsman and a bowler. Both are different. Krunal's bowling is needed more than his batting. Dubey hitting is needed in absence of Pandya than his bowling. For this Indian team Dubey is a better fit than Krunal. You cannot discard a player after one match/series.I would never play Krunal over Kuldeep. Link to comment
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