Deepak Chahar Appreciation thread

[Ankit_sharma03]

3 minutes ago, putrevus said:

I don't need to bring any stats, this guy is not good to be as part of first option.He does not have any tangilble skill which will make him last in international cricket.I certainly don't want him to be part of T20 team for next world cup.

 

Ajanta Mendis was fastest to many things. Stats with small sample size don't mean anything. 

ajanata mendis was all about mystery...which got soughted

Whats the mystery in chahar....he is simple swing bowler who is smart with variation and in t20 its a lot about deception. 

Tangiable skill - swings the ball, has cutters,knuckle ball,  is clever, can bowl upto 140k ......arent these skills. He may not be successful in other format for t20 he has enough skills. Fluke happens once but he has now performed in 3 back to back series 

[Ankit_sharma03]

Just now, Stan AF said:

Gotta say I agree with @putrevus

 

As far as I can see three and only 3 players are guaranteed a spot in the WC. Bumrah, Rohit & Kohli. Even a specialist spinner be it chahal or kuldeep would be on a case by case basis and nothing guaranteed. 

Pandya if fit is a guarntee 

Just now, Stan AF said:

There's still a year and 25+ games to go.

yes anything can happen to anyone but as of today he has done well in every given chance

 

[Ankit_sharma03]

 

 

Another fluke 

 

 

 

Edited November 12, 2019 by Ankit_sharma03

[putrevus]

8 minutes ago, Ankit_sharma03 said:

ajanata mendis was all about mystery...which got soughted

Whats the mystery in chahar....he is simple swing bowler who is smart with variation and in t20 its a lot about deception. 

Tangiable skill - swings the ball, has cutters,knuckle ball,  is clever, can bowl upto 140k ......arent these skills. He may not be successful in other format for t20 he has enough skills. Fluke happens once but he has now performed in 3 back to back series 

There are dime a dozen like him everywhere.Atleast Mendis had mystery to his bowling. Mendis performed better and was more effective for longer period than this guy.I don't think he is that good and I don't want him to be on the team next year.

[Ankit_sharma03]

Just now, putrevus said:

There are dime a dozen like him everywhere.

Who are these ....if they do i dnt see them in IPL where they shud have gotten in a look 

Just now, putrevus said:

Atleast Mendis had mystery to his bowling. Mendis performed better and was more effective for longer period than this guy.I don't think he is that good and I don't want him to be on the team next year.

whom do u want ??? what are our options- 

 

Bhuvi

Bumrah

What after

Shami- m his biggest fan but he has never been good in t20

Ishant- no way

umesh- hahahaha

Saini- lacks variation been taken for runs in most t20 he has played, chahar has done far far far better

khaleel- u also dont want him 

 

ull only take 2 fast bowlers who also have had injury issues in last 1-2 yrs, god forbid if they get injured

[New guy]

Chahar takes another hat-trick today vs Vidharba in SMA trophy

[putrevus]

22 hours ago, Ankit_sharma03 said:

Who are these ....if they do i dnt see them in IPL where they shud have gotten in a look 

whom do u want ??? what are our options- 

 

Bhuvi

Bumrah

What after

Shami- m his biggest fan but he has never been good in t20

Ishant- no way

umesh- hahahaha

Saini- lacks variation been taken for runs in most t20 he has played, chahar has done far far far better

khaleel- u also dont want him 

 

ull only take 2 fast bowlers who also have had injury issues in last 1-2 yrs, god forbid if they get injured

I would take Saini, Shami over this guy.Bhuvi and this guy in the same will not work.Saini needs to be given more chances.Nothing against this guy but it is like watching Mohit Sharma part 2. We need someone with express pace to add variety.

 

[Ankit_sharma03]

25 minutes ago, putrevus said:

I would take Saini, Shami over this guy.Bhuvi and this guy in the same will not work.Saini needs to be given more chances.Nothing against this guy but it is like watching Mohit Sharma part 2. We need someone with express pace to add variety.

 

Saini struggled due to lack of variation and in t20 variation plays a huge role 

Shami has struggled in t20 forever, mixing formats 

 

Mohit didnt swing the ball as much as deepak does n mohit did well in 2015 wc in australia 

 

I myself will take saini in squad but not in XI ahead of chahar who has done well in almost every game he has played atleast till now. Saini will play coming games n he has the chance to outperform chahar

Edited November 13, 2019 by Ankit_sharma03

[putrevus]

14 minutes ago, Ankit_sharma03 said:

Saini struggled due to lack of variation and in t20 variation plays a huge role 

Shami has struggled in t20 forever, mixing formats 

 

Mohit didnt swing the ball as much as deepak does n mohit did well in 2015 wc in australia 

 

I myself will take saini in squad but not in XI ahead of chahar who has done well in almost every game he has played atleast till now. Saini will play coming games n he has the chance to outperform chahar

Australia is totally different and you need more pace than variations.There is still time for any youngster to emerge.

[Ankit_sharma03]

16 minutes ago, putrevus said:

Australia is totally different and you need more pace than variations.There is still time for any youngster to emerge.

In australia swing also works big time- pk, irfan, kulasekra, even mohit all did well. under light it always does bit.

Also those are long ground....cutters will work 

 

Pace also is a friend of batsman.....u need to add variations as well, these days batsman get use to pace very quickly and they like ball coming on bat unless ur jofra archer or mitch starc. 

 

Im not counting at saini but i think he is better in longer formats n in t20 chahar is ahead , i dnt consider chahar even an option in other format but in t20 he has done really really well and he is somebody who is a wkt taker specially in powerplay. With bhuvi new ball decline i wud want chahar for sure in XI 

 

Werent u the same guy who said saini didnt make his opportunities count ??? 

Edited November 13, 2019 by Ankit_sharma03

[putrevus]

2 hours ago, Ankit_sharma03 said:

In australia swing also works big time- pk, irfan, kulasekra, even mohit all did well. under light it always does bit.

Also those are long ground....cutters will work 

 

Pace also is a friend of batsman.....u need to add variations as well, these days batsman get use to pace very quickly and they like ball coming on bat unless ur jofra archer or mitch starc. 

 

Im not counting at saini but i think he is better in longer formats n in t20 chahar is ahead , i dnt consider chahar even an option in other format but in t20 he has done really really well and he is somebody who is a wkt taker specially in powerplay. With bhuvi new ball decline i wud want chahar for sure in XI 

 

Werent u the same guy who said saini didnt make his opportunities count ??? 

We are still talking about second options thats why I said I would take Saini. He did well against Bangladesh and undermanned SA so hold your horses before you proclaim him to be good/great.

 

He was very average against England.

[Ankit_sharma03]

6 minutes ago, putrevus said:

We are still talking about second options thats why I said I would take Saini. He did well against Bangladesh and undermanned SA so hold your horses before you proclaim him to be good/great.

He did very well against WI to

Had figure of 3/4.....in WI 

then 6/7 against BANG

 

 

Turned up next day took hatrick again in syed mushtaq ali, for sure he is doing something right. Has been excellent in IPL for 2 yrs....in before u say u dnt consider IPL but thats ur issues as its a competitve leagues with big players from world and in such small cases u take everything into count.

 

People say he lacks skill....watch carefully he is troubling batsman with swing 

 

Also didnt saini played against Same SA side and struggled 

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He was very average against England.

In a match where everyone went for runs specially england bowlers themselves who were going for 11-14 eco

And thats just one game....So did well in 3 series and bad in 1 games

Saini was also only good in 1-2 games . 

Edited November 13, 2019 by Ankit_sharma03

[express bowling]

I am always sceptical about Asian medium pacers playing tests or ODIs  ... especially if they are 

... less than 6'3" and lack natural bounce

... are not an old and experienced pacers  ( who used to be quick earlier )

 

I have never seen one do well for any length of time.

 

We play more than 60% of our games on slow surfaces. And medium pacers don't get the pace off the surfaces in such matches.

 

Medium pacers have done well for any length of time usually if they are from SA ( where the surfaces provide pace and seam movement )  or England ( where there is a lot of seam and swing )  

 

Yes ... some Asian medium pacers have done well in tests and ODIs for a couple of years or a few games ... when the novelty factor is there.

 

Can Asian medium pacers do well in T20s for any length of time  ?   Maybe. It is the only format where it maybe possible.  But I am not sure.  Somehow, the shorter medium pacers can't sustain it for long.

 

 

 

 

 

Edited November 14, 2019 by express bowling

[rkt.india]

On 11/12/2019 at 9:13 PM, Ankit_sharma03 said:

ajanata mendis was all about mystery...which got soughted

Whats the mystery in chahar....he is simple swing bowler who is smart with variation and in t20 its a lot about deception. 

Tangiable skill - swings the ball, has cutters,knuckle ball,  is clever, can bowl upto 140k ......arent these skills. He may not be successful in other format for t20 he has enough skills. Fluke happens once but he has now performed in 3 back to back series 

Mendis didn't fail because of mystery being sorted but because of the injury to his finger.

[Sportsgeek]

Deepak Chahar picked up a hat-trick en route his figures of 6/7 in the 3rd T20I vs Bangladesh to claim a couple of highly acclaimed records in the history of the sport

• Deepak Chahar picked 6-wicket haul as India beat Bangladesh in Nagpur T20I
• Chahar's 6 for 7 are the best bowling figures in T20I cricket
• Chahar beat previous record held by Sri Lanka's Ajantha Mendis

Best ever bowling figure of his career. After this incredible performance he actually deserve place in t20 team of India

 

[putrevus]

On 11/13/2019 at 9:15 PM, express bowling said:

I am always sceptical about Asian medium pacers playing tests or ODIs  ... especially if they are 

... less than 6'3" and lack natural bounce

... are not an old and experienced pacers  ( who used to be quick earlier )

 

I have never seen one do well for any length of time.

 

We play more than 60% of our games on slow surfaces. And medium pacers don't get the pace off the surfaces in such matches.

 

Medium pacers have done well for any length of time usually if they are from SA ( where the surfaces provide pace and seam movement )  or England ( where there is a lot of seam and swing )  

 

Yes ... some Asian medium pacers have done well in tests and ODIs for a couple of years or a few games ... when the novelty factor is there.

 

Can Asian medium pacers do well in T20s for any length of time  ?   Maybe. It is the only format where it maybe possible.  But I am not sure.  Somehow, the shorter medium pacers can't sustain it for long.

 

 

 

 

 

Unless Chahar is unplayable due to swing  with new ball in Australia next year. I dont think he will add much value.I am not sold on Bhuvi either he is getting hurt far too much these days.

 

After Bumrah India don't have fast bowler for next year to be honest.

Edited November 15, 2019 by putrevus

[Ankit_sharma03]

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Chahar innings today of 55 which included 7 sixes 

[vishalvirsingh]

Very average or should I say poor bowling standards in SMA..

[vishalvirsingh]

On 11/14/2019 at 7:45 AM, express bowling said:

I am always sceptical about Asian medium pacers playing tests or ODIs  ... especially if they are 

... less than 6'3" and lack natural bounce

... are not an old and experienced pacers  ( who used to be quick earlier )

 

I have never seen one do well for any length of time.

 

We play more than 60% of our games on slow surfaces. And medium pacers don't get the pace off the surfaces in such matches.

 

Medium pacers have done well for any length of time usually if they are from SA ( where the surfaces provide pace and seam movement )  or England ( where there is a lot of seam and swing )  

 

Yes ... some Asian medium pacers have done well in tests and ODIs for a couple of years or a few games ... when the novelty factor is there.

 

Can Asian medium pacers do well in T20s for any length of time  ?   Maybe. It is the only format where it maybe possible.  But I am not sure.  Somehow, the shorter medium pacers can't sustain it for long.

 

 

 

 

 

Bhuvi , Deepak chahar and erstwhile praveen Kumar are genuine swing guru"s.

With the  new ball or the swinging pink ball they will always be dangerous.

Chahar and bhuvi may get picked with shammi in odi in the 11

I wanna see if chahar can beat bhuvi too 

But yes chahar will give bhuvi competition for sure.

[Suhaan]

11 minutes ago, vishalvirsingh said:

Very average or should I say poor bowling standards in SMA..

In zonal or regional cricket you generally get one or two easy bowlers,you will see it even in franchise cricket e.g IPL,Big Bash etc