Autonomous Posted July 5, 2020 Posted July 5, 2020 13 minutes ago, Singh bling said: I don't know why you so angry at Pakistan government. Pakistan has around 3k cases per day and around 150 deaths . The situation is very much like india compared to population. 20% positive ratio. Test karo to pata chale.
Singh bling Posted July 5, 2020 Posted July 5, 2020 41 minutes ago, Autonomous said: 20% positive ratio. Test karo to pata chale. So but Deaths are in control. I didn't hear any news that people are dying at large scale.
Autonomous Posted July 5, 2020 Posted July 5, 2020 (edited) 3 minutes ago, Singh bling said: So but Deaths are in control. I didn't hear any news that people are dying at large scale. Not reporting deaths. Actual deaths are 3 times more at very least. This is due to many factors including someone who tested negative for covid after testing positive but couldn't survive the damage caused by virus and died due to complications. Edited July 5, 2020 by Autonomous
First class Posted July 6, 2020 Posted July 6, 2020 so far tests done/million population India 6993 Pakistan 6330 Bangladesh 4931 So India is doing slightly more tests/ million but BD is doing much less Norman 1
Ankit_sharma03 Posted July 17, 2020 Posted July 17, 2020 https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/pakistan/ @First class @Autonomous IS it true the cases in pakistan are declining ? or just wrong data provided by govt or low testing Adi_91 1
Autonomous Posted July 17, 2020 Posted July 17, 2020 11 hours ago, Ankit_sharma03 said: https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/pakistan/ @First class @Autonomous IS it true the cases in pakistan are declining ? or just wrong data provided by govt or low testing I don't know. I think they are playing with the numbers.
Singh bling Posted July 28, 2020 Posted July 28, 2020 Looks like Pakistan has developed herd immunity. Only 936 cases.
First class Posted July 29, 2020 Posted July 29, 2020 On 7/17/2020 at 4:46 AM, Ankit_sharma03 said: https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/pakistan/ @First class @Autonomous IS it true the cases in pakistan are declining ? or just wrong data provided by govt or low testing Along with a team of physicians from USA, I have been involved with doctors and health officials in Center and Punjab in an effort to treat and prevent spreading of covid 19 infection for last three months . The stats are true , covid 19 situation in Pakistan has improved significantly . Hospitals which were jam packed a month or so ago have much lesser patients with covid 19 now. Particularly ICU admission are much less now. Active cases , daily new cases and daily death rates all are down. We should give lots of credit to the doctors, nurses and other health providers in Pakistan and also to the government for managing the situation very well. They have right people for the job, particularly the federal health minister Zafar Mirza is a very qualified person to handle his kind of situation. I personally did not talk to him but have participated in many zoom conferences with his team , they are really very qualified and smart people. There is a serious risk for another surge after Eid and Muharram.
Adi_91 Posted July 29, 2020 Posted July 29, 2020 2 hours ago, First class said: Along with a team of physicians from USA, I have been involved with doctors and health officials in Center and Punjab in an effort to treat and prevent spreading of covid 19 infection for last three months . The stats are true , covid 19 situation in Pakistan has improved significantly . Hospitals which were jam packed a month or so ago have much lesser patients with covid 19 now. Particularly ICU admission are much less now. Active cases , daily new cases and daily death rates all are down. We should give lots of credit to the doctors, nurses and other health providers in Pakistan and also to the government for managing the situation very well. They have right people for the job, particularly the federal health minister Zafar Mirza is a very qualified person to handle his kind of situation. I personally did not talk to him but have participated in many zoom conferences with his team , they are really very qualified and smart people. There is a serious risk for another surge after Eid and Muharram. Well, how do you count people who due to taboo are not going to hospitals? I highly suspect that Pakistan’s numbers are even anywhere near accurate.
Autonomous Posted July 29, 2020 Posted July 29, 2020 1 hour ago, Adi_91 said: Well, how do you count people who due to taboo are not going to hospitals? I highly suspect that Pakistan’s numbers are even anywhere near accurate. It is surely diminishing. If number of cases were increasing, the number of patients requiring immediate/critical treatments would have also surged. (Very unlikely if someone is dying and you don't bring him to the hospital)
Norman Posted July 29, 2020 Posted July 29, 2020 1 hour ago, Autonomous said: It is surely diminishing What do you think is the reason for that? Good lockdown measures ? Stricter restrictions ? Or just going down after hitting the peak as in Italy, Iran etc ? Asking you because you don't seem like a Kaali daal follower so expecting an honest answer.
Ankit_sharma03 Posted July 29, 2020 Posted July 29, 2020 6 hours ago, First class said: Along with a team of physicians from USA, I have been involved with doctors and health officials in Center and Punjab in an effort to treat and prevent spreading of covid 19 infection for last three months . The stats are true , covid 19 situation in Pakistan has improved significantly . Hospitals which were jam packed a month or so ago have much lesser patients with covid 19 now. Particularly ICU admission are much less now. Active cases , daily new cases and daily death rates all are down. We should give lots of credit to the doctors, nurses and other health providers in Pakistan and also to the government for managing the situation very well. They have right people for the job, particularly the federal health minister Zafar Mirza is a very qualified person to handle his kind of situation. I personally did not talk to him but have participated in many zoom conferences with his team , they are really very qualified and smart people. There is a serious risk for another surge after Eid and Muharram. problem in countries like India and pakistan is people arent very disciplined , whats the scene there were people disiciplined when it came to social distancing and stepping out
Autonomous Posted July 29, 2020 Posted July 29, 2020 1 hour ago, Norman said: What do you think is the reason for that? Good lockdown measures ? Stricter restrictions ? Or just going down after hitting the peak as in Italy, Iran etc ? Asking you because you don't seem like a Kaali daal follower so expecting an honest answer. Going down after hitting the peak. People in cities have been using masks and sanitizers etc so that may have helped a bit. But generally I think the virus has died down here after hitting the peak because there were no restrictions in place since end of april. I don't think this has anything to do with smart/selected lovkdowns because even during those lockdowns everything was business as usual. They were just PR stunt from PTI just like their other so called initiatives which only exist in social media/overseas pakistani pages. Norman 1
Autonomous Posted July 29, 2020 Posted July 29, 2020 29 minutes ago, FischerTal said: 10,000 tests per day lol 21k tests in last 24 hours. Infection rate is around 5% or less which was 20-25% at one point in time. Herd immunity ya to hogayi hai ya hone wali hai
First class Posted July 29, 2020 Posted July 29, 2020 6 hours ago, Adi_91 said: Well, how do you count people who due to taboo are not going to hospitals? I highly suspect that Pakistan’s numbers are even anywhere near accurate. You're right, stats and numbers could be misleading, but we have been making zoom rounds in ICUs for many hospitals in Pakistan including Karachi, Lahore, Rawalpindi and Peshawar. The number of patients in ICUs and daily death rate was overwhelming . Hospitals were running out of ICU beds, but now, we're still making rounds in the same hospitals , there are not too many covid 19 patients, not even 1/3 compared to what they had at peak.
First class Posted July 29, 2020 Posted July 29, 2020 3 hours ago, Norman said: What do you think is the reason for that? Good lockdown measures ? Stricter restrictions ? Or just going down after hitting the peak as in Italy, Iran etc ? Asking you because you don't seem like a Kaali daal follower so expecting an honest answer. I think when technical people running a department it makes difference. Health department in Pakistan at Federal level and in Punjab is being run by very capable people, particularly at federal level, hence the positive results. When politicians without any particular skill and knowledge ( Like Sheikh Rashid, railway minister ) running some ministry you can see the mess they create . IK has appointed more technocrates at key posts than any previous government and his government is not hesitant to ask for help from overseas Pakistanis on technical issues. Iconoclast and Norman 2
FischerTal Posted July 29, 2020 Posted July 29, 2020 (edited) 5 hours ago, Autonomous said: 21k tests in last 24 hours. Infection rate is around 5% or less which was 20-25% at one point in time. Herd immunity ya to hogayi hai ya hone wali hai It was 10,000 a couple of days ago when Pakistan recorded its lowest positives. Herd immunity can only be achieved with roughly 50-60 percent having developed immunity. That isn’t the case for any country at this stage. With Eid coming up, you will see a spike in cases again. Edited July 29, 2020 by FischerTal
Autonomous Posted July 29, 2020 Posted July 29, 2020 44 minutes ago, FischerTal said: It was 10,000 a couple of days ago when Pakistan recorded its lowest positives. Herd immunity can only be achieved with roughly 50-60 percent having developed immunity. That isn’t the case for any country at this stage. With Eid coming up, you will see a spike in cases again. Ignore the phenku above. But still infection rate has reduced. It could also be the virus strain getting weaker Alam_dar 1
Adi_91 Posted July 30, 2020 Posted July 30, 2020 Expecting honesty with reporting numbers from a country ruled by army and a puppet PM is the last thing one can hope for.
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