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Who among England and India would be more Dominating in next Decade?


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To say that there is a dearth of talent in India right now is patently false. There are more bowlers clocking 140 + than in any previous decade in our cricketing history , There are young confident guys who score tons on their first tours of England and australia - something which even Dravid could not do etc. But as long as we keep recycling the thakurs, jadhavs, karthiks, dhonis - you cant expect us to evolve to the next level. 

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22 minutes ago, Nikhil_cric said:

There will be less and less players crossing format. The workloads and the intensity required is already a bit excessive. We will see more specialists for each format and, therefore, very different teams across formats. 

Tha shud happen and we have top players n depth for every format and so does england

 

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On 7/21/2020 at 2:57 PM, Ankit_sharma03 said:

If there are 2 teams in world that have depth in quality bench strength its England and India , WI may be 3rd but inconsistency is a huge issue among them. 

Not only both India n England have quality bench strength but there is variety of skills among the players across format as well. I doubt that they ll dominate world cricket like Wi or Aus has coz the bowling might not still be at that level but surely they ll dominate in next 10 years. 

 

Among other teams 

Aus- dont see a the volume of quality players coming up

SA, SL, - looks quite bad

Pakistan- they ll always produce talent but they have many other problems

NZ- not sure about them 

 

Who ever utilise their resources to the fullest will dominate more. 

 

But for sake of Predictions whom do you think will dominate more among the two teams ?

What would be your India A side in 50 over cricket if you had to pick the team tomorrow? Don't include youngsters who are already part of the senior team like Rahul, Pandya, Iyer and Saini! 

Would you say your team will be good enough to defeat both South Africa and Sri Lanka in a 5-match series since they "look quite bad"?

Also you left out Bangladesh who I think will do much better in the next decade. They always produce awesome players at the U19 level, they just need to graduate to the next level! 

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7 minutes ago, SecondSlip said:

What would be your India A side in 50 over cricket if you had to pick the team tomorrow? Don't include youngsters who are already part of the senior team like Rahul, Pandya, Iyer and Saini! 

 

Lets say if this is the senior 15

  1. Dhawan 
  2. Rohit
  3. Kohli
  4. Iyer
  5. Rahul
  6. Jadeja
  7. Hardik
  8. Bhuvi
  9. Shami
  10. Bumrah
  11. Chahal
  12. Kuldeep
  13. Saini
  14. Manish pandey 
  15. Pant

India-A shud be 

 

  1. Shaw
  2. Samson
  3. Gill
  4. Vijay shankar
  5. Nitish Rana
  6. Kishen 
  7. Axar 
  8. Rahul chahar
  9. Prasidh
  10. Rajpoot 
  11. Mavi 
  12. Devdutt 
  13. Mayank
  14. K gowtham 
  15. Khaleel 

Also -Abdul Samad/ Sarfraz/ Riyan parag ( not entirely there but all very good LOI prospects)

7 minutes ago, SecondSlip said:



Would you say your team will be good enough to defeat both South Africa and Sri Lanka in a 5-match series since they "look quite bad"?

yes 

7 minutes ago, SecondSlip said:



Also you left out Bangladesh who I think will do much better in the next decade. They always produce awesome players at the U19 level, they just need to graduate to the next level! 

I dont see to many runaway match winners with them specially in bowling like they had novelty of mustafizur for a brief time 

 

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On 7/23/2020 at 9:03 PM, SecondSlip said:

Another point I forgot to add @Ankit_sharma03 

 

Team India ain’t dominating anything with Kohli and Shastri in charge. 

its just not about shastri n kohli in regds to domination, for that we need to many more changes

  • selectors
  • quality over quantity cricketer
  • A team director over these guys head pref foreigner
  • Our own board president ganguly doesnt understand format difference much so u can understand how deep our problems are. 

Domination requires a overall mental makeup of structure  then just 2 people

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England looks better placed upto and including the next World Cup in ODIs. The current top 3 for India will all be either on their last legs or dropped due to age-related decline by then. India will basically have to find at least 2-3 star caliber batsmen to replace  Rohit/Dhawan/Kohli. Rahul has a good shot of replacing one of the openers. However, there are still 1-2 more needed. 

 

T20 is a marginally favours England because they know how to select different teams for different formats..  We don't use the IPL enough to pick players, and shove ODI players into the T20 team, otherwise we would be in a better position in that format. 

 

Tests, India. England will lose Anderson and Broad soon. That is 1000+ wickets to replace. Those two are the last remnants of their number 1 test side, which also won a series in India. Stokes looks like a superstar, but the rest of their team isn't exactly inspiring.  Root is over-hyped thus far. 

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One advantage India has over england in test is home condition dominance

India is almost unbeatable at home, England is defeated 1 test in every series by opposition whereas Indian team pretty much whitewash series at home. England dominance at home will take further hit once anderson n broad retires . 

 

India with ashwin, jadeja, shami, umesh, bumrah, kuldeep will be dominanting heavily at home fore few years and Rahul chahar and Siraj i feel will carry this tradition at home. Also we have batting - rohit, mayank, pujara, kohli, vihari, pant, Rahul, gill who will keep pilling 600 at home. 

 

So in terms of win % India has benefit of home condition

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