Pak won the home ODI series against Zimb 2-1

[SK_IH]

2 minutes ago, raki05 said:

Kohli at 23 scored 183 against chuckmal, Wahab , chucker Hafeez and others and chased down 330, also chased 340 against sl with peak Malinga at 23 age.

Kohli post 100 is God level, fir koi bhi bowler le aao. He demolishes them systematically. Babar Azam was giving strike to Riaz to hit boundaries ROFL

@Gollum I have beef with Kohli regarding his choking at big events but the guy is different class. 

 

[Gollum]

9 minutes ago, SK_IH said:

Ghanta, you cannot compare him to Kohli lol. 

Nobody is comparing him to Kohli. But it can't be denied that he had a better WC. Kohli has played 3 WCs and 2 at the peak of his powers, yet to fire in a single one. Yet to fire in a single WC KO. Can't think of other ATGs with such record. Kohli's runs against C grade bowling attacks in meaningless JAMODIs mean nothing, give me Smith (who averages 100+ in WC KOs) any day over him in ODIs. 

Edited November 3, 2020 by Gollum

[SK_IH]

Just now, Gollum said:

Nobody is comparing him to Kohli. But it can't be denied that he had a better WC. Kohli has played 3 WCs and 2 at the peak of his powers, yet to fire in a single one. Yet to fire in a single WC KO. Can't think of other ATGs with such record. Kohli's runs against C grade bowling attacks in meaningless JAMODIs mean nothing, give me Smith any day over him who averages 100+ in WC KOs. 

That is for Kohli to improve in 2023. But just because a guy scored a 100 vs NZ we may regard him as a great WC success over Kohli. 

 

[Gollum]

16 minutes ago, Suhaan said:

Doesn't matter if batsman of his stature (as claimed by his people) wasn't able to pull his team beyond league stages

 

Won't be the only one, far greater batsmen have failed at that. A certain Brian Charles Lara was 2nd(or 3rd) best batsman in 1992 WC. Did WI (then still a top side) make the SF? Dravid was the batsman of the tournament in 1999 WC? Babar isn't that class yet, moreover just his 1st WC. 

[Gollum]

3 minutes ago, SK_IH said:

That is for Kohli to improve in 2023. But just because a guy scored a 100 vs NZ we may regard him as a great WC success over Kohli. 

 

That 100 in a must win match against eventual finalists was class, Kohli is yet to produce one such knock in WCs....in 3 attempts!!!!!!

 

Anyway my statement was

  

25 minutes ago, Gollum said:

He did have a good WC, something Kohli lacks. 

 

If you can disprove this statement go ahead. I never made a claim that he is better than XYZ or world class. 

[Gollum]

Just now, Banton said:

Babar Azam is Tendulkar lite.

Tendulkar also used to choke near finish line after playing damn good inning.

Tendulkar wasn't a choker in ODIs (tests there is scope for discussion), an opener isn't supposed to finish matches. That role belongs to middle order. 

 

He is all time leading run-getter in WCs, twice top scorer (96, 03) and once 2nd highest at the age of 38. 3/5 MOMs against Pak which is always a high pressure clash. Moreover averages 55 something in multi nation finals....not a choker. 

[raki05]

2 minutes ago, Banton said:

Babar Azam is Tendulkar lite.

Tendulkar also used to choke near finish line after playing damn good inning.

Ghanta....Tendulkar has played inning before 20 age which gobar azam or any other for that matters can only dream of plating.By 24 he was widely regarded as one of the greats of the game in both format and not just among his peers only.

[Amit228]

Lmao green ghetto locked again!!!

 

Lgta h gend fat gya ... would be delicious to witness wrist slitting ceremony...

 

Few days before folks from green ghetto were criticising IPL bowling standard.. now got phainty at the hand of world beater Zimbabwe... Even after playing a full strength squad... Lol

Edited November 3, 2020 by Amit228

[raki05]

1 minute ago, Amit228 said:

Lmao green ghetto locked again!!!

 

Lgta h gend fat gya ... would be delicious to witness wrist slitting ceremony...

 

Few days before folks from green ghetto were criticising IPL bowling standard.. now got phainty at the hand of world beater west Indies... Even after playing a full strength squad... Lol

Blessing Muzarabani of all people trolled their entire batting lineup with 7 wkts in a match 5 in 50 overs and  2 in power play. GOAT Muzarbani bowling at 120 thunderbolt has won the match single handadly... Pee Pee meltdown was obvious.

[Amit228]

Just now, raki05 said:

Ghanta....Tendulkar has played inning before 20 age which gobar azam or any other for that matters can only dream of plating.By 24 he was widely regarded as one of the greats of the game in both format and not just among his peers only.

Lol...that gobar azam is king of soft runs... He is yet to chase 320+ score on his own.. which kohli did earlier in his career...of his 12 centuries.. 4 is against west Indies 3 against sri lanka nd 2 against Zimbabwe.. lmao nd they compare him with kolhi

[Austin 3:!6]

Zimbabwe should have won the 1st ODI as well and only the inexperience cost them the game. Zimbabwe lost the golden chance of a series win here

[raki05]

Just now, Amit228 said:

Lol...that gobar azam is king of soft runs... He is yet to chase 320+ score on his own.. which kohli did earlier in his career...of his 12 centuries.. 4 is against west Indies 3 against sri lanka nd 2 against Zimbabwe.. lmao nd they compare him with kolhi

Not just compare they consider him benchmark for this generation... Even tulla faker zama has more chances to win a match than this gobar.

[raki05]

Just now, Austin 3:!6 said:

Zimbabwe should have won the 1st ODI as well and only the inexperience cost them the game. Zimbabwe lost the golden chance of a series win here

That would have concluded this year on high note amid covid......

[putrevus]

Lol at people comparing Babar azam to Kohli. Kohli is on another planet compred to this guy.

[Gollum]

24 minutes ago, SK_IH said:

Kohli post 100 is God level, fir koi bhi bowler le aao. He demolishes them systematically. Babar Azam was giving strike to Riaz to hit boundaries ROFL

@Gollum I have beef with Kohli regarding his choking at big events but the guy is different class. 

See I don't rate Babar as high as most of these experts. Best Pak batting talent since Inzi (says more about Pak batting legacy), that's it, long way to go before we start putting him in top tier bracket.

 

I always maintain Kohli is T20 GOAT, even if he sucks in T20Is and IPLs till the end of his career I will rate him highly based on those 2 WT20s. In tests again an ATG, just cos of superhuman Smith many don't realize how special Kohli is. But in ODIs all he has done in his peak years is meaningless stats boosting. Even if he averages 60 at 120SR for the rest of his career, difficult to rate him as ATG unless he does something special in matches of significance. Sure hitting 4 4s in an over off Kesrick Williams or 200 SR ton against Lanka in Indore may impress many here resulting in threads like Kohli is better than Viv, I have stopped taking those feats seriously. I will judge bowlers the same way, that is why I'll wait for a few more years before rating bilateral beasts like Chahal/Kuldeep. 

Edited November 3, 2020 by Gollum

[SK_IH]

8 minutes ago, Gollum said:

That 100 in a must win match against eventual finalists was class, Kohli is yet to produce one such knock in WCs....in 3 attempts!!!!!!

 

Anyway my statement was

  

 

If you can disprove this statement go ahead. I never made a claim that he is better than XYZ or world class. 

I will make another statement, Sakib had a better WC than both Kohli & Babar. You can also say Babar earlier choked against Ind & Aus, so thay NZ game became even more crucial. In last WC every game was crucial, Virat scored 70-80s but we rightfully remember his SF failure. But that cannot be a judge to say Babar out batted him in the WC. I ll just say stop overrating this guy.

[Suhaan]

14 minutes ago, Gollum said:

Won't be the only one, far greater batsmen have failed at that. A certain Brian Charles Lara was 2nd(or 3rd) best batsman in 1992 WC. Did WI (then still a top side) make the SF? Dravid was the batsman of the tournament in 1999 WC? Babar isn't that class yet, moreover just his 1st WC. 

Im talking about the fake buzz among his people

Lol when did you last see Babar chasing 270+?

He is good by Pakistani standards though

[Amit228]

8 minutes ago, raki05 said:

Not just compare they consider him benchmark for this generation... Even tulla faker zama has more chances to win a match than this gobar.

Lmao.. at benchmark of this generation.. this guy is grade A level bottler... If he was in india...he would be behind hahane in pecking order.

 

Andhon me kana raja in Pakistani batting resources

[Amit228]

1 minute ago, Suhaan said:

Im talking about the fake buzz among his people

Lol when did you last see Babar chasing 270+?

He is good by Pakistani standards though

Exactly this!!!... Kohli chased 320+ scores on his own.. his freak innings against sri lanka is one for ages.. nd his 183 against poyz in asia cup is one of the best...

 

Nd this minnow basher can't chase anything over 300+  highly overrated

[Gollum]

15 minutes ago, SK_IH said:

I will make another statement, Sakib had a better WC than both Kohli & Babar.

Agree, Shakib delivered an ATG performance and now belongs to the top tier of ODI ARs of all time. He is even ahead of Imran Khan in my all time Asian ODI XI just cos of 2019 WC. Elevated him from decent/good to undisputed ATG. 2nd greatest ODI AR from Asia behind Kapil and the GOAT spin AR in the format. That's what WCs do. Won't make a mediocre player great (remember Geoff Allott?) but transition from good->great (Shakib) sure.....moreover without 1 outstanding WC or special KO performance there will be question marks no matter how impressive the overall stats look (Amla foremost example). Can you imagine how Inzi would be rated if not for the 1992 SF? You will find me consistent in my views, I always maintain that Dravid was a top ODI player of his time, too many critics of him on this forum but you only need to show them the 1999 WC numbers to make your point.

Edited November 3, 2020 by Gollum