Nikola Posted November 15, 2020 Posted November 15, 2020 (edited) 1 hour ago, Forever Indian said: Luck is part and parcel of the game, end of the day it is the Win that counts. So, although statistically Sachin/Kohli are the greater batsmen Dravid/Pujara have been better match winners for us in SENA. This can be taken in the same analogy as say a country like South Africa, which always does well in Bilaterals/non-ICC tourneys and had some of the greatest players but always comes short in ICC tourneys or when it really matters. Sometimes it is due to Luck and sometimes due to other reasons but it is what it is! On which basis you are judging Dravid better match winner in SENA than Tendulkar? Dravid: Sachin: Both have won same number of matches and dravid has one match winning ton in aus where as sachin has it in NZ. Edited November 15, 2020 by Nikola
express bowling Posted November 16, 2020 Posted November 16, 2020 With 7 double centuries in test cricket ... Kohli is now the joint 4th highest double hundred scorer in the history of test cricket. Bradman. 12 Sangakkara. 11 Lara. 9 Kohli. 7 Hammond. 7 Tendulkar. 6 Sehwag. 6 Dravid. 5
AuxiliA Posted November 16, 2020 Posted November 16, 2020 14 hours ago, Gollum said: when it comes to perception he suffers because he is in the same era as GOAT Smith. You're over hyping Smith here man. He is hands down best test bat of this generation but his averages are bound to fall by the end of his career. Sachin, Ponting, Dravid, etc all averaged ~60 during their primes. Also Australian pitches now days are absolute pancakes. Every country comes up with spicy pitches from time to time. Never seen that in Australia during Smith's career. Sgattick10 and express bowling 1 1
AuxiliA Posted November 16, 2020 Posted November 16, 2020 14 hours ago, Gollum said: when it comes to perception he suffers because he is in the same era as GOAT Smith. You're over hyping Smith here man. He is hands down best test bat of this generation but his averages are bound to fall by the end of his career. Sachin, Ponting, Dravid, etc all averaged ~60 during their primes. Also Australian pitches now days are absolute pancakes. Every country comes up with spicy pitches from time to time. Never seen that in Australia during Smith's career.
Straight Drive Posted November 16, 2020 Posted November 16, 2020 I would rank the best Indian test batsmen I have watched as follows: 1. Sunny 2. Sachin 3. Dravid 4. Kohli 5. Sehwag
Gollum Posted November 16, 2020 Posted November 16, 2020 1 hour ago, AuxiliA said: You're over hyping Smith here man. He is hands down best test bat of this generation but his averages are bound to fall by the end of his career. Sachin, Ponting, Dravid, etc all averaged ~60 during their primes. Started as a bowling AR, was wasted in first few years. Averaging close to 75 since he became a specialist batsman, ICC peak rating 947 which is 2nd highest of all time. 1 hour ago, AuxiliA said: Also Australian pitches now days are absolute pancakes. Every country comes up with spicy pitches from time to time. Never seen that in Australia during Smith's career. He dominates even overseas, avg 57 compared to Kohli's 44. After what he did against India in 2017, his prowess against spin and reverse-swing in SC can never be questioned. What he did in 2019 Ashes after 1 year ban, 774 runs in 7 innings (missed a test) proving that his previous away Ashes tally of 500+ was no fluke, took back #1 spot from Virat in just a couple of tests....who would have thought? Lone Wolf 1
Majestic Posted November 16, 2020 Author Posted November 16, 2020 1 hour ago, Gollum said: Started as a bowling AR, was wasted in first few years. Averaging close to 75 since he became a specialist batsman, ICC peak rating 947 which is 2nd highest of all time. He dominates even overseas, avg 57 compared to Kohli's 44. After what he did against India in 2017, his prowess against spin and reverse-swing in SC can never be questioned. What he did in 2019 Ashes after 1 year ban, 774 runs in 7 innings (missed a test) proving that his previous away Ashes tally of 500+ was no fluke, took back #1 spot from Virat in just a couple of tests....who would have thought? That's why Smith, IMO, is a once in many many generation test cricketer.
zen Posted November 16, 2020 Posted November 16, 2020 (edited) Tendulkar, by and large, excelled in tests in the 90s, in the 21st century v major teams: View overall figures [change view] Primary team India Opposition team Australia or England or India or New Zealand or Pakistan or South Africa or Sri Lanka or West Indies Start of match date between 1 Jan 2000 and 1 Jan 2014 Qualifications runs scored greater than or equal to 5000 Ordered by batting average (descending) Page 1 of 1 Showing 1 - 4 of 4 First Previous Next Last Return to query menuCleared query menu Overall figures Player Span Mat Inns NO Runs HS Ave BF SR 100 50 0 4s 6s R Dravid 2000-2012 114 205 23 9190 270 50.49 21718 42.31 25 41 5 1144 15 VVS Laxman 2000-2012 109 185 30 7758 281 50.05 15643 49.59 16 50 11 998 4 V Sehwag 2001-2013 96 168 4 8151 319 49.70 9917 82.19 23 28 16 1161 88 SR Tendulkar 2000-2013 114 195 16 8445 241* 47.17 15914 53.06 21 43 7 1100 36 In his last 114 tests v major teams, he is the least averaging batsman among the Dravid, VVS and Sehwag. Innings/100 Sehwag 7.3 Dravid 8.2 Tendulkar 9.3 VVS 11.6 Edited November 16, 2020 by zen
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