Muloghonto Posted January 13, 2021 Share Posted January 13, 2021 Just now, Khota said: Once again you are using broad brush. Not all sikhs think the same. The brush is reserved exactly for those who deserve it - canadian & UK Sikhs and the Khalsa organisation. Guilty by support is guilty by support. We all know how many Canadian Sikhs cheer the khalistani slogans on Vesakhi parade days - which is the majority of them who attend. Just now, Khota said: Lot of hindus also killed innocent sikhs. Dragged them out of buses, out of trins and killed them. On the street poured kerosene over them and burned them. Yes. You reap what you sow. We didnt start killing the Sikhs. its the Sikhs who started it. Taking responsibility isnt a virtue it seems in your community. Just now, Khota said: That does not mean all hindus are bad. You sir are a hate monger and no more engaging you. why would i monger love and acceptance to those who undermine my country and my culture ?? Unlike the ahsan faramosh Sikhs, hindus didnt grant sainthood to any one of those terrorist murderers. Khalsa Sikhs did. You want us to not think you are the enemy ? Ok. Take down the pictures of that terrorist hindu killer from the golden temple and revoke his sant-hood. Else no dice. If your religion gives sainthood to a murdering terrorist, then people of the religion that were victims of his terrorism is 100% justified in seeing you as the enemy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
urbestfriend Posted January 13, 2021 Share Posted January 13, 2021 7 hours ago, Muloghonto said: a few rich Jutt farmers are a very tiny fraction of the farmer population. their vote doesnt matter and most of them vote for those who murdered their kindred aka the congress party. So who cares about these fringe losers. This is what perplexing for me. India has federalism and states can make its own law, and Punjab has decided to make their own laws. Why do they want to repeal laws for entire India? Now few minority groups will decide what laws are ok and what is not? Is this even democracy? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coffee_rules Posted January 13, 2021 Share Posted January 13, 2021 2 hours ago, Khota said: Nothing is given in writing. They were ready to give, but the demands changed only to repeal. 2 hours ago, Khota said: I don't have infinite time but let us talk about stubble burning. AQI in Delhi is around 250 today and no stubble is being burned. Stubble burning does cause an increase but that was going on for decades. Diwali does not cause an increase in AQI, but when Stubble burning season starts, the AQI goes down, there is a direct link and even NGT has made stubble burning illegal based on this information 2 hours ago, Khota said: The underline issue in Delhi is too many internal combustion engine. Till Delhi gets electric cars these problems will be there. Need to go green here. This is the same case with all major cities and they don’t have AQI issues as much as Delhi , tell me why? Studies have shown the single major cause is stubble burning 2 hours ago, Khota said: To avoid stubble buring fields have to be mowed. Who will pay for that cost? Let AAP pay for instead of free electricity and water to Delhi. You voted for AAP in Delhi , question them. 2 hours ago, Khota said: It will be th consumer. Things are not black and white as you think. I read some more but I partly like SC verdict that they need to negotiate and hold the law but the people on the panel they have picked have conflict of interest. Any law students knows that is not ethical. farmers should go the supreme court again and request them to change tha panel. I enjoy Jaillikattu but there are other people who dont. I don't have answer to that. . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coffee_rules Posted January 13, 2021 Share Posted January 13, 2021 2 hours ago, Khota said: That is blown out of proportion. Most of them are sleeping on the streets. They can go back and sleep in their homes funded by MSP, nobody is forcing them to sleep on the streets. Those sleeping on the streets are bhade ka farmers and protesters Muloghonto 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Khota Posted January 13, 2021 Share Posted January 13, 2021 5 minutes ago, coffee_rules said: They can go back and sleep in their homes funded by MSP, nobody is forcing them to sleep on the streets. Those sleeping on the streets are bhade ka farmers and protesters None of them are rented. They are fighting the good fight to keep their motherland from becoming an oligarchy. This movement will grow and is growing and it is just not punjab. Under_Score 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Khota Posted January 13, 2021 Share Posted January 13, 2021 17 minutes ago, coffee_rules said: They were ready to give, but the demands changed only to repeal. Diwali does not cause an increase in AQI, but when Stubble burning season starts, the AQI goes down, there is a direct link and even NGT has made stubble burning illegal based on this information This is the same case with all major cities and they don’t have AQI issues as much as Delhi , tell me why? Studies have shown the single major cause is stubble burning Let AAP pay for instead of free electricity and water to Delhi. You voted for AAP in Delhi , question them. Today AQI in Delhi is close to 250 and kolkata is almost 100 less. Are they burning stubble today?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muloghonto Posted January 13, 2021 Share Posted January 13, 2021 10 minutes ago, Khota said: None of them are rented. They are fighting the good fight to keep their motherland from becoming an oligarchy. This movement will grow and is growing and it is just not punjab. oligarchy my foot. You and your ilk completely ignored the article that thanks to this bill, Punjabi cotton farmers are fetching higher prices in the open market than they would under govt price guarantee. Minimum procurement price doesnt exist in ANY country. Especially not in China - the only other country with a comparable number of people employed in the farm sector as India. coffee_rules 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muloghonto Posted January 13, 2021 Share Posted January 13, 2021 2 minutes ago, Under_Score said: These bhakts are having a mass orgy today since they feel that Supreme court ab Feku ki jeb mein hai......jab gareeb insaan ka Inqualab aayega.....this gutter party will be flushed out of the parliament. yes the party of the hindus is gutter party but the party that murdered sikhs and sikhs vote for still is the best party of all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Khota Posted January 13, 2021 Share Posted January 13, 2021 24 minutes ago, Muloghonto said: oligarchy my foot. You and your ilk completely ignored the article that thanks to this bill, Punjabi cotton farmers are fetching higher prices in the open market than they would under govt price guarantee. Minimum procurement price doesnt exist in ANY country. Especially not in China - the only other country with a comparable number of people employed in the farm sector as India. It is already an oligarchy. Majority of wealth went to top few percent. farming is regulated and manage by government everywhere and there is a price for procurement like corn etc. but chicken and pork and beef can fluctate. I could care less about china but they have tripled their income compared to India. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Khota Posted January 13, 2021 Share Posted January 13, 2021 20 minutes ago, Under_Score said: These bhakts are having a mass orgy today since they feel that Supreme court ab Feku ki jeb mein hai......jab gareeb insaan ka Inqualab aayega.....this gutter party will be flushed out of the parliament. SC needs to change the panel because all four are compromised. Under_Score 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coffee_rules Posted January 13, 2021 Share Posted January 13, 2021 Just now, Khota said: SC needs to change the panel because all four are compromised. So.you guys don’t trust the SC, government, Whom do you trust? Yogendra yadav? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muloghonto Posted January 13, 2021 Share Posted January 13, 2021 5 minutes ago, Khota said: It is already an oligarchy. Majority of wealth went to top few percent. farming is regulated and manage by government everywhere and there is a price for procurement like corn etc. but chicken and pork and beef can fluctate. I could care less about china but they have tripled their income compared to India. There is no minimum purchase price in ANY country. government subsidises farm sector in every country - so does india. So you could care less about examples that prove your nonsense views to be nonsense. Okay. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
randomGuy Posted January 13, 2021 Share Posted January 13, 2021 This guy sitting in Canada has got nothing to lose,hes just enjoying fanning the fire... tomorrow if govt has to resort to usage of force to clear the roads which results in loss of lives, ...he must know that he will be one of persons to blame.. coffee_rules 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muloghonto Posted January 13, 2021 Share Posted January 13, 2021 (edited) 5 minutes ago, randomGuy said: This guy sitting in Canada has got nothing to lose,hes just enjoying fanning the fire... tomorrow if govt has to resort to usage of force to clear the roads which results in loss of lives, ...he must know that he will be one of persons to blame.. The govt will only do it, if the supreme court orders clearing the roads by force. Hence the government involved the supreme court, to make sure that anti india lalloos dont manufacture an anti india anti hindu narrative due to these few paid demonstrators. Edited January 13, 2021 by Muloghonto Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clarke Posted January 13, 2021 Share Posted January 13, 2021 If the SC was not so biased, they would have appointed Yogendra Yadav, Kanhaiya Kumar, Umar Khalid & Swara Bhaskar in the panel coffee_rules 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
someone Posted January 13, 2021 Share Posted January 13, 2021 Embarrassing to see grown ups doing only doing childish behaviour and bullying. Those who have “road power” cannot and never will dictate the country. And seems it is full circle again. Like Kejriwal and his certificate of honesty. Again, the common man will never allow these distinguished citizens and their friends such monopoly. We trust our democracy, courts, and this government got a full mandate. And in the manifesto, the farm bills were there and this government has implemented their promise with people’s mandate. And these thugs should fight the upcoming elections, and create their own party. Thats the barometer to judge the confidence of people. Yet, obviously they wont do, because they don’t represent the people, and are some proxies of opposition party. Why they wont fight elections and create their party? Why they keep running away from any farm bills debate? Where is the clause by clause issues? Clarke, Muloghonto and coffee_rules 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nonbeliever Posted January 13, 2021 Share Posted January 13, 2021 Farmer with more than two cows need a commercial electricity connection. Under_Score 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clarke Posted January 13, 2021 Share Posted January 13, 2021 (edited) Farmers and their unions in other parts of Punjab are preparing to send a large number of participants for the rally by January 20 - some communities have even decided that those unable to send vehicles will either pay a fine or face social boycott. "If we don't go now, we shall never get this opportunity. This is a fight for our rights": That's the message blaring out of loudspeakers of Gurdwaras in the state. The village plans to send a convoy of 100 tractors by January 20 and preparations are on in full swing. A meeting held at the local Gurdwara has decided that there will be a street-wise movement to invite farmers for the Delhi tractor parade. Those who cannot participate will have to pay up ₹ 2,100 per head towards a fund for those protesting. Non-payment of the amount will lead to social boycott. "Our NRI brothers, too, are enthusiastically backing us. People from the village who have gone abroad have sent us ₹ 41,000. The landlords are funding us, too, since we can't fight without funds and we have to win this fight at any cost," farmer Avtar Singh told NDTV. Why is there blackmail, foreign funding, landlord involvement & a Religious angle, this is about poor farmers after all Edited January 13, 2021 by Clarke Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
urbestfriend Posted January 13, 2021 Share Posted January 13, 2021 3 hours ago, Khota said: None of them are rented. They are fighting the good fight to keep their motherland from becoming an oligarchy. This movement will grow and is growing and it is just not punjab. Yeah, now they are freedom fighters? In this way, India can never make any laws considering some or other groups think it is not good for the country. You dont understand how democracy work. It is all about negotiation and see the other side of it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nonbeliever Posted January 13, 2021 Share Posted January 13, 2021 (edited) 18 minutes ago, Clarke said: Farmers and their unions in other parts of Punjab are preparing to send a large number of participants for the rally by January 20 - some communities have even decided that those unable to send vehicles will either pay a fine or face social boycott. "If we don't go now, we shall never get this opportunity. This is a fight for our rights": That's the message blaring out of loudspeakers of Gurdwaras in the state. The village plans to send a convoy of 100 tractors by January 20 and preparations are on in full swing. A meeting held at the local Gurdwara has decided that there will be a street-wise movement to invite farmers for the Delhi tractor parade. Those who cannot participate will have to pay up ₹ 2,100 per head towards a fund for those protesting. Non-payment of the amount will lead to social boycott. "Our NRI brothers, too, are enthusiastically backing us. People from the village who have gone abroad have sent us ₹ 41,000. The landlords are funding us, too, since we can't fight without funds and we have to win this fight at any cost," farmer Avtar Singh told NDTV. Why is there blackmail, foreign funding, landlord involvement & a Religious angle, this is about poor farmers after all Poor or rich, they have big hearts in villages. They live for each other. Edited January 13, 2021 by Nonbeliever Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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