Discussion on Farmers issues in India

[Khota]

1 hour ago, Singh bling said:

Lakhimpur Kheri violence: SIT demands attempt to murder charges against 13 accused

The incident was a deliberate act and not of negligence or callousness.," said Vidyaram Diwakar, SIT investigation officer.

https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/city/lucknow/lakhimpur-kheri-violence-sit-demands-pressing-of-attempt-to-murder-charges-on-13-accused/articleshow/88272873.cms

 

How many here will now accept that they were wrong on Lakhimpur?

They will never. You can murder innocent farmers but they need to stay in power. The behavior of few posters who lie and misrepresent all the time is worst.

[raki05]

5 hours ago, Khota said:

They will never. You can murder innocent farmers but they need to stay in power. The behavior of few posters who lie and misrepresent all the time is worst.

Soldiers gives life for country what are their salaries.. foot soldier, do you see them running away from border and doing gherao of capital and watching carbret , eating piza and whoring around for an year. I am surprised you guys are supporting a protest lead by snake tikkait and funded by foreign instigator. It's really sad to see gullible support for these freeloaders so called kishans.

[Khota]

11 hours ago, raki05 said:

Soldiers gives life for country what are their salaries.. foot soldier, do you see them running away from border and doing gherao of capital and watching carbret , eating piza and whoring around for an year. I am surprised you guys are supporting a protest lead by snake tikkait and funded by foreign instigator. It's really sad to see gullible support for these freeloaders so called kishans.

Tikait cares about kisans and that is what matters. Soldiers do a lot and everyone should be thankful.  But kisans do a lot and you look down upon them.

[raki05]

2 hours ago, Khota said:

Tikait cares about kisans and that is what matters. Soldiers do a lot and everyone should be thankful.  But kisans do a lot and you look down upon them.

Which kisan who sat for an year out of farm and watched cabaret ate pizza and briyani. Or the kishan from other 27 states which never participated I protest and continued their hardwork like anyother indians does by performing their daily duties of nation building whichever way they can. Coz I have utmost respect for later . But some of you looks to have blind lorlyalities for former who took money from Canada based Khalistani, Snake Pakistani and many other foreign powers to take capital hostage.

[Singh bling]

2 hours ago, raki05 said:

Which kisan who sat for an year out of farm and watched cabaret ate pizza and briyani. Or the kishan from other 27 states which never participated I protest and continued their hardwork like anyother indians does by performing their daily duties of nation building whichever way they can. Coz I have utmost respect for later . But some of you looks to have blind lorlyalities for former who took money from Canada based Khalistani, Snake Pakistani and many other foreign powers to take capital hostage.

Just a question , if you believe  normal farmers never protested then where are they now. You people always said that they support laws so they must protest now . Where are they and where are their unions?

[raki05]

1 hour ago, Singh bling said:

Just a question , if you believe  normal farmers never protested then where are they now. You people always said that they support laws so they must protest now . Where are they and where are their unions?

Why don't you answer why there were no protest in other part of India from past one year. Some of the states like Kerala , Maharashtra already have this law long before it was implemented in center and snake Tikait were already lauded these laws when it was reviewed with kishan union and once he got foreign funding his niyat and tune both changed.

[Khota]

5 hours ago, raki05 said:

Which kisan who sat for an year out of farm and watched cabaret ate pizza and briyani. Or the kishan from other 27 states which never participated I protest and continued their hardwork like anyother indians does by performing their daily duties of nation building whichever way they can. Coz I have utmost respect for later . But some of you looks to have blind lorlyalities for former who took money from Canada based Khalistani, Snake Pakistani and many other foreign powers to take capital hostage.

Logistics is the reason that farmers from kerala could not come. It was a short distance to Delhi from Haryana, Punjab  and U P.

[Khota]

1 hour ago, raki05 said:

Why don't you answer why there were no protest in other part of India from past one year. Some of the states like Kerala , Maharashtra already have this law long before it was implemented in center and snake Tikait were already lauded these laws when it was reviewed with kishan union and once he got foreign funding his niyat and tune both changed.

Farmers are 50% of the population which is being exploited. If the laws were so good why are other farmers not protesting to keep them.

[raki05]

1 hour ago, Khota said:

Farmers are 50% of the population which is being exploited. If the laws were so good why are other farmers not protesting to keep them.

Other farmers din't even participate in the protest, coz real farmers are pretty indifferent from the petty politics, they dont have time and money to participate for an year. Forget farmers, none of the working class has this much of patience and free funded money to participate in such thing for such a longer period of time.  It has been asked several time what was wrong in Krishi kanoon, was it improvement on the previous kanoon or not? Even Mr. Dakait initially lauded it as great law and later switch his stance in greediness of money.

Edited December 15, 2021 by raki05

[Khota]

29 minutes ago, raki05 said:

Other farmers din't even participate in the protest, coz real farmers are pretty indifferent from the petty politics, they dont have time and money to participate for an year. Forget farmers, none of the working class has this much of patience and free funded money to participate in such thing for such a longer period of time.  It has been asked several time what was wrong in Krishi kanoon, was it improvement on the previous kanoon or not? Even Mr. Dakait initially lauded it as great law and later switch his stance in greediness of money.

For the millionth time MSP needs. to be gauranteed.

[dial_100]

8 hours ago, Singh bling said:

Just a question , if you believe  normal farmers never protested then where are they now. You people always said that they support laws so they must protest now . Where are they and where are their unions?

 

Here.

https://indianexpress.com/article/cities/pune/let-down-by-farm-laws-repeal-says-shetkari-sanghatana-in-maharashtra-7630833/

 

I have not read the full article but they are very unhappy with it. First of all, stop claiming support of all farmers in the country. Speak for 2 states only because that is what this protest was all about. 

[coffee_rules]

Surplus funding, still needs to be serviced for... 

 

Punjab: Farmers to begin ‘rail roko’ from Dec 20
 

Read more at:
http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/articleshow/88301532.cms?utm_source=contentofinterest&utm_medium=text&utm_campaign=cppst

 

More Protest. Kissa ab bhi khatam nahin hua yaaron!

[coffee_rules]

5 hours ago, Khota said:

For the millionth time MSP needs. to be gauranteed.

Why? It was never guaranteed in law before and now the new ex-laws have been repealed and outlawed. there is no impact on MSP, Waisa hain waise hi pada hai, MSP is for P-H privilege -farmers

Edited December 15, 2021 by coffee_rules

[rkt.india]

12 hours ago, Khota said:

For the millionth time MSP needs. to be gauranteed.

Traders will stop buying from farmers and instead import grains cheaper from outside. MSP isn't practical. It will create a crisis in the country.

[rkt.india]

22 hours ago, Khota said:

Tikait cares about kisans and that is what matters. Soldiers do a lot and everyone should be thankful.  But kisans do a lot and you look down upon them.

Tikait is a politician and he only cares about his political career.

[Khota]

1 hour ago, rkt.india said:

Traders will stop buying from farmers and instead import grains cheaper from outside. MSP isn't practical. It will create a crisis in the country.

Another naive argument. If that is the case  there is not one factory in India that produces anything cheaper than China/Vietnam etc

 You have a lot or learning to do and I don't have time to teach. 

[Khota]

1 hour ago, rkt.india said:

Tikait is a politician and he only cares about his political career.

Which election is he fighting. 

[Khota]

13 hours ago, coffee_rules said:

Why? It was never guaranteed in law before and now the new ex-laws have been repealed and outlawed. there is no impact on MSP, Waisa hain waise hi pada hai, MSP is for P-H privilege -farmers

It never was under threat either. With new laws and no discussion farmers felt that their intentions were not honest.

[coffee_rules]

1 hour ago, Khota said:

It never was under threat either. With new laws and no discussion farmers felt that their intentions were not honest.

Which new laws?

[bharathh]

31 minutes ago, coffee_rules said:

Which new laws?

The one thing anyone can takeaway from this entire episode is that the "farmers" are open to discussions 

 

That's why they it was their way or the highway... oops - sorry highways were vandalized... so no highway also possible