express bowling Posted October 9, 2021 Author Share Posted October 9, 2021 1 minute ago, Lone Wolf said: If there's one change that I'd like to see is Siraj instead of Bhuvi in WT20. There is clear daylight between both of them at how they are bowling in various stages of the game. It's very unfair on him that he is still missing out. Agree strongly. Siraj Is amazing at the death and good at the beginning. Should be in the World T20 squad in place of Bhuvi based on current form. Lone Wolf, Mosher and Hell Raiser 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mesky99 Posted October 9, 2021 Share Posted October 9, 2021 On 10/7/2021 at 8:12 AM, express bowling said: 4 Day matches and One day matches .... TEAM A Pacers .... Current Fast Bowlers Bumrah Shami Siraj Prasidh TEAM B Pacers .... Upcoming Fast Bowlers Umran Avesh Mavi Tyagi TEAM C Pacers ... Old Fast Bowlers Umesh Ishant Aaron TEAM D Pacers .... Current Swing Bowlers / Medium pacers Bhuvi D.Chahar Shardul Natarajan TEAM E Pacers .... Medium Pacers who are Slower Ball Specialists Arshdeep Harshal Sakaria Unadkat What will happen. ?? Saini not in the list? Really hope we get to see more of prithvi Raj Yarra, tall strong left arm seamer with pace, generates bounce, very impressive, same with Sushant mishra needs to settle in quickly in the Jharkhand state team, not many would have seen much of simarjeet singh from Delhi but he has some spark. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mesky99 Posted October 9, 2021 Share Posted October 9, 2021 On 10/6/2021 at 6:42 AM, rkt.india said: Shami was never as quick as these two. These two started pace evolution in India. Shami wasn't that quick when he first arrived. Was 135-140 bowler. Gained pace from 2016 onwards. Umesh Aaron quick from day one. Aaron hit 153 in domestic cricket. Space evolution actually started under dravid, rp, sreesanth, ishant all started bowling quick from 2007 onwards, sreesanth hit 145kph many times in limited overs cricket, rp in the home series against Australia 2007 was consistently hitting 140kph plus, the sl series just before the 50 over world cup in 2007 agarkar started hitting pretty good speeds to, after that dhoni took over and all of our pacers went downhill, at one stage we had rp, sreesanth, Zak, Irfan, munaf, ishant, Ajit. Some got injured, some lost form, nehra was brought back in and dhoni started backing medium pacers like Praveen and Vinay, I remember Awana bowling well in Ipl 2012, rahul Shukla bowled quick. Chakdephatte 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay Posted October 9, 2021 Share Posted October 9, 2021 6 hours ago, express bowling said: Agree strongly. Siraj Is amazing at the death and good at the beginning. Should be in the World T20 squad in place of Bhuvi based on current form. Are we forgetting siraj for odi? He averages 23 in odi too in List A. He should play odi next to shami and booms. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay Posted October 9, 2021 Share Posted October 9, 2021 5 hours ago, Mesky99 said: Space evolution actually started under dravid, rp, sreesanth, ishant all started bowling quick from 2007 onwards, sreesanth hit 145kph many times in limited overs cricket, rp in the home series against Australia 2007 was consistently hitting 140kph plus, the sl series just before the 50 over world cup in 2007 agarkar started hitting pretty good speeds to, after that dhoni took over and all of our pacers went downhill, at one stage we had rp, sreesanth, Zak, Irfan, munaf, ishant, Ajit. Some got injured, some lost form, nehra was brought back in and dhoni started backing medium pacers like Praveen and Vinay, I remember Awana bowling well in Ipl 2012, rahul Shukla bowled quick. Dhoni ruined our cricket till he retired. Thank god. Don't give a damn about world cup. Tests reigns supreme. Then we can think of WCs. Worst ever captain for pace bowling. He hated keeping to pace bowlers because it hurt his hands. Oh how sad. Chakdephatte, Mesky99 and New guy 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
express bowling Posted October 9, 2021 Author Share Posted October 9, 2021 (edited) 18 minutes ago, Jay said: Are we forgetting siraj for odi? He averages 23 in odi too in List A. He should play odi next to shami and booms. Siraj needs to be a regular in ODIs from now on. He was in the squad against England but did not get to play. Edited October 9, 2021 by express bowling Suhaan and Mosher 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
express bowling Posted October 9, 2021 Author Share Posted October 9, 2021 6 hours ago, Mesky99 said: Saini not in the list? Really hope we get to see more of prithvi Raj Yarra, tall strong left arm seamer with pace, generates bounce, very impressive, same with Sushant mishra needs to settle in quickly in the Jharkhand state team, not many would have seen much of simarjeet singh from Delhi but he has some spark. Saini can be in the first team. I was selecting max 4 pacers per team and so he has missed out based on current form and fitness. And have included only those pacers who have come into prominence while playing for India or the IPL. I have watched Yarra, Simarjeet and Sushant bowl lots of overs each. They are all above average but it's my personal opinion that atleast the first 2 are just short of international class. Sort of like Tushar Deshpande. Sushant Is very young and lets see how he progresses. Mosher and Suhaan 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
express bowling Posted October 9, 2021 Author Share Posted October 9, 2021 On 10/8/2021 at 8:07 AM, rkt.india said: Prasidh team B. Avesh team A. Prasidh needs to improve a lot. Needs to work on his stock ball. Prasidh has played ODIs for India while Avesh hasn't debuted in any format. So, he can't be called a Current Team India pacer. Suhaan and Mosher 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mesky99 Posted October 9, 2021 Share Posted October 9, 2021 12 hours ago, Jay said: Dhoni ruined our cricket till he retired. Thank god. Don't give a damn about world cup. Tests reigns supreme. Then we can think of WCs. Worst ever captain for pace bowling. He hated keeping to pace bowlers because it hurt his hands. Oh how sad. Every single pacer regressed under him except Zak, he had no clue how to handle and manage pace bowlers, Manpreet gony should have been a regular in the India team after the first ipl, dhoni even brought back balaji in 2009 series against NZ, ishant was made to play countless odi games against SL etc, eventually ishants test form regressed and so did his pace, the worst captaincy I have ever seen was against Pakistan in the 2009 champions trophy game, Pak were 65-3 in 15 overs with Yousaf and Malik at the crease, they ended up with 300 plus, harmless captaincy, he even played unadkat ahead of Umesh in the Johanesburg test 2010. Jay, MCcricket and New guy 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
express bowling Posted October 9, 2021 Author Share Posted October 9, 2021 (edited) Fastest Balls by Indians in IPL 2021 Fastest .. Umran Malik .. 152.95 kph POS PLAYER Speed (km/h) 1 UmranMalik 152.95 2 Umran Malik 152.05 3 Umran Malik 151.97 4 Umran Malik 151.77 5 Umran Malik 151.03 6 Umran Malik 150.74 7 Umran Malik 150.06 8 Umran Malik 149.79 9 Mohammed Siraj 149.24 10 Umran Malik 149.04 11 Umran Malik 148.13 12 Umran Malik 148.02 13 Umran Malik 147.92 14 Mohammed Siraj 147.68 15 Mohammed Siraj 147.67 16 Khaleel Ahmed 147.38 17 Umran Malik 147.18 18 Umran Malik 147.15 19 Umran Malik 146.90 20 Umran Malik 146.84 21 Umran Malik 146.74 22 Umran Malik 146.74 23 Mohammed Siraj 146.65 24 Prasidh Krishna 146.60 25 Prasidh Krishna 146.58 26 Prasidh Krishna 146.28 27 Umran Malik 146.16 28 Jasprit Bumrah 146.09 29 Mohammed Siraj 145.97 30 Prasidh Krishna 145.96 31 Mohammed Siraj 145.96 Edited October 9, 2021 by express bowling Suhaan, themask, Mariyam and 1 other 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay Posted October 9, 2021 Share Posted October 9, 2021 (edited) 1 hour ago, Mesky99 said: Every single pacer regressed under him except Zak, he had no clue how to handle and manage pace bowlers, Manpreet gony should have been a regular in the India team after the first ipl, dhoni even brought back balaji in 2009 series against NZ, ishant was made to play countless odi games against SL etc, eventually ishants test form regressed and so did his pace, the worst captaincy I have ever seen was against Pakistan in the 2009 champions trophy game, Pak were 65-3 in 15 overs with Yousaf and Malik at the crease, they ended up with 300 plus, harmless captaincy, he even played unadkat ahead of Umesh in the Johanesburg test 2010. Never liked Dhoni. Never will. Never cared for that idiot. I dont give a damn about world cups. Tests matter to me more than WCs. He made us suffer in tests away from home. Pathetic loser. Cant stand that delusional idiot. Atleast kohli encourages pace bowling. We are fans of cricket. Cricket is meant for entertainment. I don't want to see trundlers with no skill bowl. Let's be honest. Most of us get excited for fast bowling. Yea sure batting can be fun to watch on its own but fast bowling is what excites us. Nothing more pleasing to watch than a fast bowler hurl his thunderbolt. I pay money to watch for entertainment. I dont pay money to watch fodders like unadkat bowl at speeds of 125 km that I myself, an amateur cricketer, who plays grade level cricket can attain Edited October 9, 2021 by Jay Suhaan, New guy and Mariyam 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
express bowling Posted October 9, 2021 Author Share Posted October 9, 2021 26 minutes ago, express bowling said: Fastest Balls by Indians in IPL 2021 POS PLAYER Speed (km/h) 1 UmranMalik 152.95 2 Umran Malik 152.05 3 Umran Malik 151.97 4 Umran Malik 151.77 5 Umran Malik 151.03 6 Umran Malik 150.74 7 Umran Malik 150.06 8 Umran Malik 149.79 9 Mohammed Siraj 149.24 10 Umran Malik 149.04 11 Umran Malik 148.13 12 Umran Malik 148.02 13 Umran Malik 147.92 14 Mohammed Siraj 147.68 15 Mohammed Siraj 147.67 16 Khaleel Ahmed 147.38 17 Umran Malik 147.18 18 Umran Malik 147.15 19 Umran Malik 146.90 20 Umran Malik 146.84 21 Umran Malik 146.74 22 Umran Malik 146.74 23 Mohammed Siraj 146.65 24 Prasidh Krishna 146.60 25 Prasidh Krishna 146.58 26 Prasidh Krishna 146.28 27 Umran Malik 146.16 28 Jasprit Bumrah 146.09 29 Mohammed Siraj 145.97 30 Prasidh Krishna 145.96 31 Mohammed Siraj 145.96 This Is the first year since 2016 that Bumrah has not bowled in the 147 kph to 150 kph range. He was much quicker in IPL 2017 to IPL 2020. But Bumrah has crossed 149 kph in two different test matches this year. Suhaan and Mosher 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Suhaan Posted October 9, 2021 Share Posted October 9, 2021 44 minutes ago, express bowling said: This Is the first year since 2016 that Bumrah has not bowled in the 147 kph to 150 kph range. He was much quicker in IPL 2017 to IPL 2020. But Bumrah has crossed 149 kph in two different test matches this year. Good that he's reserving his energy for t20 wc just after and like Steyn he knows how to up the ante in test cricket when needed,tries to extract whatever being offered from conditions,strip by hovering around 132-137 and steps up later express bowling 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Suhaan Posted October 9, 2021 Share Posted October 9, 2021 (edited) 3 hours ago, express bowling said: Siraj needs to be a regular in ODIs from now on. He was in the squad against England but did not get to play. Too many spinners playing Siraj,Thakur sitting laying eggs for chakna for Shastri's farewell tourney Edited October 9, 2021 by Suhaan express bowling 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mesky99 Posted October 9, 2021 Share Posted October 9, 2021 12 hours ago, Jay said: Never liked Dhoni. Never will. Never cared for that idiot. I dont give a damn about world cups. Tests matter to me more than WCs. He made us suffer in tests away from home. Pathetic loser. Cant stand that delusional idiot. Atleast kohli encourages pace bowling. We are fans of cricket. Cricket is meant for entertainment. I don't want to see trundlers with no skill bowl. Let's be honest. Most of us get excited for fast bowling. Yea sure batting can be fun to watch on its own but fast bowling is what excites us. Nothing more pleasing to watch than a fast bowler hurl his thunderbolt. I pay money to watch for entertainment. I dont pay money to watch fodders like unadkat bowl at speeds of 125 km that I myself, an amateur cricketer, who plays grade level cricket can attain Gambhir would have been a terrific captain, should have got odi captaincy in 2010, Dhoni was never held accountable after the 8-0 against aus and eng, the only positive move he made was to get Rohit to open in the champions trophy 2013. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
express bowling Posted October 9, 2021 Author Share Posted October 9, 2021 35 minutes ago, Suhaan said: Good that he's reserving his energy for t20 wc just after and like Steyn he knows how to up the ante in test cricket when needed,tries to extract whatever being offered from conditions,strip by hovering around 132-137 and steps up later Yes, smart thing to do for Bumrah. In fact Shami is doing the same too. Mosher and Suhaan 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay Posted October 9, 2021 Share Posted October 9, 2021 6 hours ago, Mesky99 said: Gambhir would have been a terrific captain, should have got odi captaincy in 2010, Dhoni was never held accountable after the 8-0 against aus and eng, the only positive move he made was to get Rohit to open in the champions trophy 2013. Agreed. Even in short format was he really that good ? Like seriously? He inhibited the growth of our pacers there too. Sure he was good in 2009-2014 in short formats especially odi but like you said, he was never held accountable for test cricket. In odi it was a team effort. Gambir, yuvraj, sreesanth and co all played a huge role. BTW not 8 0. It's actually 8 0 plus 2-1 loss at home to England ans then 1 0 loss to new Zealand as well iirc? So 11-1. 11 *ing losses to one win. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay Posted October 9, 2021 Share Posted October 9, 2021 5 hours ago, express bowling said: Yes, smart thing to do for Bumrah. In fact Shami is doing the same too. Best ever Asian pacers apart from wasim for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay Posted October 9, 2021 Share Posted October 9, 2021 7 hours ago, express bowling said: This Is the first year since 2016 that Bumrah has not bowled in the 147 kph to 150 kph range. He was much quicker in IPL 2017 to IPL 2020. But Bumrah has crossed 149 kph in two different test matches this year. I feel he really wants to win an icc tournament. I hope he does. Both him and shami deserve it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
express bowling Posted October 10, 2021 Author Share Posted October 10, 2021 Nortje bowled 142 k to 150 k in his first over. Bowled Faf with a quick straight ball at 147 k Mosher, speedheat and Forward Defence 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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