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tapandrun Grand Master

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1 hour ago, express bowling said:

 

More like Umran territory today.  Bowling 142 k to 153 k.

 

 

most intnl bowlers have reserve tank, they can use at imp. stages.

Ind bowlers lacks this, in general their v.top game is not that far off their regular games, hence we see lot of series wins but failures at imp. games or marquee events where others/top team/players raises their game using their reserve tank in imp. games and phases

tapandrun Grand Master

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3 minutes ago, vishalvirsingh said:

batsman are mishitting him bcos of his pace ..though he is not too skilled.

Do not need much skills at this pace, more so in t20

Lord Grand Master

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1 hour ago, express bowling said:

Ashutosh Sharma today swept a 141 k low full toss by Bumrah for a 6.

 

Granted it was a free hit .. but this requires ability. 

 

yes amazing shot. Actually it was a yorker he made into full toss by moving across

tapandrun Grand Master

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51 minutes ago, Lord said:

 

yes amazing shot. Actually it was a yorker he made into full toss by moving across

Ashutosh and Shashank have been good for PBKS rest all looked out of place.

 

Curran   and Prabsimran  opening....??

Dhawal sitting and Johny out

Nikhil_cric Grand Master

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3 hours ago, singhvivek141 said:

Wow..he is in Mayank's territory.

He has bowled 150 +. Bowled it even in the World Cup.  Coetzee is capable of sustaining speeds over a long spell. 

tapandrun Grand Master

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2 hours ago, vishalvirsingh said:

batsman are mishitting him bcos of his pace ..though he is not too skilled.

Pace and bounce, 150 kmph is skill set of its own, there are v.few who can do it and fewer who can do it consistent.

Just need bit of assistance either from pitch or the seam at 150 kmph. Pace always rattles the batters.

 

Top batters in their prime will find ways to score runs, all batters are not top batters and not at their prime all the time. 

Saw Poting playing without helmet to Akthar may be in UAE and hitting cover drives to Bond when he was at his top swinging big at ~150 kmph.. 

 

tapandrun Grand Master

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4 hours ago, express bowling said:

 

More like Umran territory today.  Bowling 142 k to 153 k.

 

 

Umran can go toe to toe with Mayank on Pace.. its just that he is not confident enough and does not know what do most of the times.

He never played much of cricket to know how to bowl a follow-up ball and what to do when batter is on the top.

 

Mayank is coming from a system he knows what he is bowling and generally bowls at better length and lines.

 

Umraan was fairly accurate v.few bad balls in his initial phase and was able to come back from a boundary ball not sure what happened to him afterwards. Looks under confident -- there were matches where he was not bowling or touching his top speeds.

 

But this has been a trend in last 2 years for all Ind pacers- Siraj is recent case, Singh has been bowling full-tosses in alst few overs, Bhuvi was bowling wides and no balls.

And in general all are bowling at lower pace.

 

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Not only is this Impact rule killing chance of creating genuine white ball all rounders its slowly making bowlers obsolete by adding an extra batsman. Bumrah and cotzee had punjab realing at 6-77 but then Ashutosh Sharma comes in at number 8. Of course bumrah has a lot of expierence and can handle it, but a younger bowler that is often bowling on flat pitches with no help and small boundires,  they need to pad their stats against tailenders sometimes but they aren't getting that this ipl and probably never get it even in domestic competition with that rule in place. how often have we seen a bowler bowl 3 great overs this ipl and then go for 15+ in last over to spoil their stats? Maybe BCCI should just have bowling machines bowl and let teams play 12 batsman.

 

Batsman to will struggle when they play icc tournaments when they realize that jadeja or axar patel are batting a 7 behind half injured pandya at number 6 and an impact sub wont save them.

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Kron Grand Master

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6 hours ago, express bowling said:

Bumrah. 141 k indipping yorker to LHB bowls Riley.

 

What a ball. !!

A great t20 bowler would be a great test bowler? Is there a correlation there? 

A great death bowler = great test bowler. Looked at some players. Dint quite add up. But great odi bowlers are generally great test bowlers too.

 

Odi is the best measuring stick then? 

tapandrun Grand Master

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5 hours ago, Kron said:

A great t20 bowler would be a great test bowler? Is there a correlation there? 

A great death bowler = great test bowler. Looked at some players. Dint quite add up. But great odi bowlers are generally great test bowlers too.

 

Odi is the best measuring stick then? 

Only gr8 T20i bowler in some sense -it would be Malinga and if leagues are also considered then to some extent Rashid (has not played much against top sides in intnl t20s).

And then there are mystery spinners.

If Bhumrah would be playing other leagues then he will also become a great t20 league bowler.

 

Malinga was good at each format because his wkt taking options were to target stumps or trap the batter for LBW which works in every cricket.

 

Taking wkts using test cricket line length and working out batter's technique is different than taking wkts in T20 cricket, batters are taking more risks playing all kind of shots and hitting every ball if there is predictability then the bowler is going for runs , batter can anticipate and get into power stance/position early and target empty areas.

 

No proper test bowler will ever find success in T20, consider it like a 100 m Sprint (only few top athletes can compete, there are only few specific ppl build for that.) its different from any other track and race event.

 

Polluck (SA intnl) willbe hit all over the park, Roach, Philander all those kind of bowlers will be finding it hard in t20s.

There will be some who argue about McGrath considering he was just line and length bowler with only small amount of deviation -- But there was alot of things which were not done before and ever since (would need another post of what he did differently)

 

Right now coaches says bowlers need variations to be successful to succeed in T20s, but most variation become usual stuff after a season or 2, would find it hard to name many bowlers with variations who were successful after 1-2 seasons its either data thing or batters are spotting variations early or could be something else.

Only player who are able to take wkts with variations over a good sample size is Bravo  but bowling was his secondary skill and if he was having a bad season he would not need to bowl and only bowl in matches or situation where his variations are working , out and out bowlers with variations cannot survive in today's day and time for more than 1-2 seasons.

 

Cricketing set-ups like Aus are going towards allrounders with big hitting capabilities and Eng are bringing batters who can dominate bowling with their new modern day style shots and get above par scores and have bowlers who can  tonk few big shots.

Rest of the set-ups are far behind to know what needs to be done.

 

So there is no great t20 bowler as such, either they have to be Malinga or some kind of Mystery bowler.

 

IMO there can be a bowling line up combination template (posted some where in this forum some where)which can work, which Pak bowling team come v.close to. RR is doing the same in some sense.

 

 

 

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